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GTX 760: 2 GB vs 4GB Ram?

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July 2, 2013 2:37:39 PM

I am looking to buy a GTX 760, and right now it seems that there are three choices I can make.

The Asus DCU2 GTX 760 (2gb VRAM)
The MSI n760 TF GTX 760 (2gb VRAM)
The EVGA GTX 760 (4 gb VRAM)

I'd like to pick the card that is most future proof. I tend to mod my games to have higher textures and what not so vram is helpful, but out of these three is the EVGA most future proof?

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July 2, 2013 2:46:02 PM

SammyAl7 said:
I am looking to buy a GTX 760, and right now it seems that there are three choices I can make.

The Asus DCU2 GTX 760 (2gb VRAM)
The MSI n760 TF GTX 760 (2gb VRAM)
The EVGA GTX 760 (4 gb VRAM)

I'd like to pick the card that is most future proof. I tend to mod my games to have higher textures and what not so vram is helpful, but out of these three is the EVGA most future proof?


If you're getting a 760, get the 2GB version, there's no benefit in getting the 4GB version because 760's bus width (256bit) is not that big to fully ultilize the 4GB vRam you're just wasting the extra cash you pay for it without getting much of a benefit, but if you want to futureproof and you care about vRam, you can consider Radeon 7950 as it has a big enough bus width (384bit) to handle all of it's 3GB vRam.
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July 2, 2013 2:46:07 PM

SammyAl7 said:
I am looking to buy a GTX 760, and right now it seems that there are three choices I can make.

The Asus DCU2 GTX 760 (2gb VRAM)
The MSI n760 TF GTX 760 (2gb VRAM)
The EVGA GTX 760 (4 gb VRAM)

I'd like to pick the card that is most future proof. I tend to mod my games to have higher textures and what not so vram is helpful, but out of these three is the EVGA most future proof?


Yes, if you'll be modding you'll want a 4GB card, though I'd wait until a non-reference model is released with 4GB or Vram, that way you have more headroom for overclocking.
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July 2, 2013 2:48:28 PM

The 7950 looks nice but i'm really loving the pricepoint for the GTX 760. When will non-reference models for the GTX 760 be coming out?
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July 2, 2013 4:10:10 PM

SammyAl7 said:
The 7950 looks nice but i'm really loving the pricepoint for the GTX 760. When will non-reference models for the GTX 760 be coming out?


Very soon most likely, within a week or two I'm sure a non reference 4GB card will be for sale, though john brings up a good point. You'll be better off with a 4GB card, that's for sure, but you won't really be able to utilize 4GB of Vram without stepping up to a 770 or switching to a 7970 (or perhaps a used 7970).
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July 2, 2013 4:27:27 PM

A while back, this report showed no real difference in performance between 2gb and 4gb:
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Video-Card-Pe...

I happen to prefer the reference blower type coolers anyway. They get heat directly out the back l of your case.
One reason for fancier coolers is to be able to self overclock a bit higher.
My take is to just buy a better binned card with a factory overclock in the first place.
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July 2, 2013 4:53:21 PM

Hmm... I am kinda pinned on getting the gtx 760 for again the price, and because of the release of geforce experience (mainly for shadowplay to record gameplay footage at 3-5 percent fps hit since I will be doing a lot of youtube.) If I get the 4gb version of a gtx 760, how much of the vram will I utilize? And if I do get a 760 with 4gb vram, what do I lose in return? (lower overclocking ability, etc).
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July 2, 2013 4:54:00 PM

Is it worth it to get, for example the asus 760 directcu ii?
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July 2, 2013 7:37:43 PM

geofelt said:
A while back, this report showed no real difference in performance between 2gb and 4gb:
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Video-Card-Pe...

I happen to prefer the reference blower type coolers anyway. They get heat directly out the back l of your case.
One reason for fancier coolers is to be able to self overclock a bit higher.
My take is to just buy a better binned card with a factory overclock in the first place.


You won't see a difference between 2GB or 4GB simply because today's games don't utilize more than 2GB in fact you can get away with only 1GB however it depends on the scale of the investment, if the OP is considering keeping this for a long time and play's 1080p I personally would consider it because in two years if a game comes out that is a VRAM hog your investment is prepared for it.

If your going to get another card in two years then I'd say don't bother and just get the 2GB.
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July 2, 2013 8:25:38 PM

This might be my last gfx card for a while as in a couple of years i'll be going to uni and I want to save as much money as possible... at the same time I want bang for my buck that's future proof and apparently the GTX 760 it is. And yeah it's logical to get 4gb vram as I will probably need it in the future, but how much of it does the card actually utilize as john mentioned?
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July 2, 2013 8:32:59 PM

SammyAl7 said:
This might be my last gfx card for a while as in a couple of years i'll be going to uni and I want to save as much money as possible... at the same time I want bang for my buck that's future proof and apparently the GTX 760 it is. And yeah it's logical to get 4gb vram as I will probably need it in the future, but how much of it does the card actually utilize as john mentioned?


To easily understand this matter, GTX 760 has a memory bus width of 256bit, the thing about 256bit is that it's not big or powerful enough to handle that high of vram (4GB) so if you play games, you will notice that there will be no difference in FPS when using either 4GB or 2GB and in some cases 2GB gets more FPS than 4GB. So at the end of the day, if you care about vram, get a gpu that can handle high amount of vram, getting 7950 with a 384bit bus width + 3GB vram is better than getting 760 which has 256bit bus + 4GB vram.
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July 2, 2013 8:41:23 PM

That helps a lot john... in your opinion is 2gb vram good enough for the future, lets say the next 3 years?
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July 2, 2013 10:59:03 PM

SammyAl7 said:
That helps a lot john... in your opinion is 2gb vram good enough for the future, lets say the next 3 years?


It depends on the games you're planning to play in the future and also, If you're not maxing out most of the game settings, 2GB vram will last til next few years. Or if ever 2GB will be a limitation in the future, you can always do a SLI configuration, buy another 760 in the future to enhance the performance.

Also, games has some kind of memory management where it will only use how much vram you have so that there will be no limitation or whatsoever, a good example is battlefield 3, where if you only have 1gb of ram, it will only use 1gb of ram and nothing more.
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July 3, 2013 1:33:22 AM

Yeah it's a tough one the 760 is slightly quicker but the 7950 is a bit of a beast power wise and has more scale for future VRAM usage.

I suppose the question is will VRAM surpass 2GB for gaming anytime soon?

The problem with what were discussing is future possibilities that none of us know as of now, but games have been pushing the envelope of 1GB especially for a 1080p resolution already.

TBH considering you can overclock a HD 7950 and make it even quicker that coupled with a 4 GB VRAM overhead for me is a dead cert, you just can't go wrong with it.

What I can tell you to put you at ease is that either of these cards are spot on for 1080p gaming, buy either and your good to go.

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July 3, 2013 7:17:27 AM

byogamingpc it does beg the question why is it you own a 3GB HD 7950 then lol.


Just kidding.
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July 3, 2013 8:27:25 AM

Thanks for the answers guys. John does bring up a good point regarding SLI, since In the next 3-4 years the gtz 760 price will probably go down. I think I'll go for the gtx 7 60 because of the price performance ratio is just too hard to turn down with my budget.
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July 3, 2013 8:28:55 AM

And byo that looks like a good card option, I'm looking at the Asus dc2 and the MSI ones as well.
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July 3, 2013 8:28:57 AM

And byo that looks like a good card option, I'm looking at the Asus dc2 and the MSI ones as well.
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July 3, 2013 10:35:59 AM

Yeah you'll be good to go, that one has a higher starting core clock as well compared to some of the others.

I like the EVGA ones but that's because they look nice and I'm being a tart about it, once it's in the machine you can't see it and it's about the performance.

Good luck.
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July 3, 2013 1:04:47 PM

I would not plan on GTX760 prices dropping in the future.
Historically, this has not happened when new cards arrive, at least not on the new retail marketplace.
The reason is that those looking for a exact card match for a sli upgrade or repair replacement have nowhere else to go to get a new card.
If you look at the used market, the GTX670 will drop to an appropriate price performance level.
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July 6, 2013 8:00:57 AM

johnvonmacz said:
SammyAl7 said:
I am looking to buy a GTX 760, and right now it seems that there are three choices I can make.

The Asus DCU2 GTX 760 (2gb VRAM)
The MSI n760 TF GTX 760 (2gb VRAM)
The EVGA GTX 760 (4 gb VRAM)

I'd like to pick the card that is most future proof. I tend to mod my games to have higher textures and what not so vram is helpful, but out of these three is the EVGA most future proof?


If you're getting a 760, get the 2GB version, there's no benefit in getting the 4GB version because 760's bus width (256bit) is not that big to fully ultilize the 4GB vRam you're just wasting the extra cash you pay for it without getting much of a benefit, but if you want to futureproof and you care about vRam, you can consider Radeon 7950 as it has a big enough bus width (384bit) to handle all of it's 3GB vRam.


is that the same for the 770 gtx 4gb 256-bit?
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July 6, 2013 10:54:56 AM

I believe so Steven, they both have a 256-bit bus.
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July 6, 2013 5:07:29 PM

Steven Lam said:
johnvonmacz said:
SammyAl7 said:
I am looking to buy a GTX 760, and right now it seems that there are three choices I can make.

The Asus DCU2 GTX 760 (2gb VRAM)
The MSI n760 TF GTX 760 (2gb VRAM)
The EVGA GTX 760 (4 gb VRAM)

I'd like to pick the card that is most future proof. I tend to mod my games to have higher textures and what not so vram is helpful, but out of these three is the EVGA most future proof?


If you're getting a 760, get the 2GB version, there's no benefit in getting the 4GB version because 760's bus width (256bit) is not that big to fully ultilize the 4GB vRam you're just wasting the extra cash you pay for it without getting much of a benefit, but if you want to futureproof and you care about vRam, you can consider Radeon 7950 as it has a big enough bus width (384bit) to handle all of it's 3GB vRam.


is that the same for the 770 gtx 4gb 256-bit?


Yes, just get the 2GB version.
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July 18, 2013 5:49:47 PM

johnvonmacz said:
SammyAl7 said:
I am looking to buy a GTX 760, and right now it seems that there are three choices I can make.

The Asus DCU2 GTX 760 (2gb VRAM)
The MSI n760 TF GTX 760 (2gb VRAM)
The EVGA GTX 760 (4 gb VRAM)

I'd like to pick the card that is most future proof. I tend to mod my games to have higher textures and what not so vram is helpful, but out of these three is the EVGA most future proof?


If you're getting a 760, get the 2GB version, there's no benefit in getting the 4GB version because 760's bus width (256bit) is not that big to fully ultilize the 4GB vRam you're just wasting the extra cash you pay for it without getting much of a benefit, but if you want to futureproof and you care about vRam, you can consider Radeon 7950 as it has a big enough bus width (384bit) to handle all of it's 3GB vRam.



i would wait for a better 4gb 760!. there's much better brands for cooling than a reference 760. Games are coming close to that 2gb so 4gb is defiantly the one you want for being future proof. Tomb raider, crysis 3, bioshock and bf3 are all using 1.5 to 1.8 gb and the next gen consoles are just around the corner to so games will require more vram soon.
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August 8, 2013 10:55:28 AM

im also thinking about this card, but i will sli them right away, also i mod games like skyrim and battlefield 3(sweetfx) also i will play games like crysis 3(and the new ones that will come out) and battlefield 4 and any other great game which are kinda demending, will the 4gb version give any benefit then? or will the bus speed still bottleneck the 4gb?
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August 8, 2013 11:46:42 AM

FromWhitin said:
im also thinking about this card, but i will sli them right away, also i mod games like skyrim and battlefield 3(sweetfx) also i will play games like crysis 3(and the new ones that will come out) and battlefield 4 and any other great game which are kinda demending, will the 4gb version give any benefit then? or will the bus speed still bottleneck the 4gb?


4gb will matter man. Games are nearly using 2gb vram on last gen games think about next gen games!. I received my evga 4gb 760 Ftw acx and its a little beast! great card one of the most powerful 760 you can get that and gigabyte. The rest of the brands are meh. I would highly recommend these cards!.
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August 8, 2013 1:29:24 PM

Guy Parris said:

4gb will matter man. Games are nearly using 2gb vram on last gen games think about next gen games!. I received my evga 4gb 760 Ftw acx and its a little beast! great card one of the most powerful 760 you can get that and gigabyte. The rest of the brands are meh.


I wonder now you've bought the card that you've realized a GTX 760 doesn't have the power or bandwidth capacity to be able to use the 4GB VRAM?

How do you feel about that?
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August 8, 2013 1:51:25 PM

Diamond-HP said:
Guy Parris said:

4gb will matter man. Games are nearly using 2gb vram on last gen games think about next gen games!. I received my evga 4gb 760 Ftw acx and its a little beast! great card one of the most powerful 760 you can get that and gigabyte. The rest of the brands are meh.


I wonder now you've bought the card that you've realized a GTX 760 doesn't have the power or bandwidth capacity to be able to use the 4GB VRAM?

How do you feel about that?


what? okay so tomb raider and crysis 3 I can run 50 to 60 fps! they both nearly use 2gb!. I'm not chancing a game coming along that is going to require more vram to max it out and being stuck with a 2gb thinking yeah I will be fine when 2gb wont be fine. BF4 is using more than 2gb vram and a 760 superclocked will handle that game on max settings. This card is on par with the 670 and 7970. what happens if a sli 2 760 4gb awh my cards wont run anything lol stop talking shit. If this card is going to do that bad then get back to me in a year and ask me how its doing when games are going over 2gb. The last time I played bioshock infinite it was using 1.8gb vram and I was pulling 100+ fps and that supposedly has a vram leak so if developers have games that are going to use more vram because of there fuck up but you know your card will run it but you can't because you only have 2gb vram what then?
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August 8, 2013 1:59:07 PM

Guy Parris said:
Diamond-HP said:

I wonder now you've bought the card that you've realized a GTX 760 doesn't have the power or bandwidth capacity to be able to use the 4GB VRAM?

How do you feel about that?


what? okay so tomb raider and crysis 3 I can run 50 to 60 fps! they both nearly use 2gb!. I'm not chancing a game coming along that is going to require more vram to max it out and being stuck with a 2gb thinking yeah I will be fine when 2gb wont be fine. BF4 is using more than 2gb vram and a 760 superclocked will handle that game on max settings. This card is on par with the 670 and 7970. what happens if a sli to 760 4gb awh my cards wont run anything lol stop talking shit.


How am I talking sh*t? maybe you should read what I wrote again and see how you didn't understand my statement.

From direct reports and specs its stated that the 4GB GTX 760 CANNOT utilize its 4GB VRAM because it doesn't have the capacity to do so!

I understand you being pissed off about that but apparently its a known fact.

If a game requires more than 2GB VRAM the 760 does not have the bandwidth or power to deliver anymore than that even if it houses 4GB, it can't deliver it.

Read em and weep sister .........

http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/?gid=1803&graphics=...
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August 8, 2013 2:19:15 PM

Diamond-HP said:
Guy Parris said:
Diamond-HP said:

I wonder now you've bought the card that you've realized a GTX 760 doesn't have the power or bandwidth capacity to be able to use the 4GB VRAM?

How do you feel about that?


what? okay so tomb raider and crysis 3 I can run 50 to 60 fps! they both nearly use 2gb!. I'm not chancing a game coming along that is going to require more vram to max it out and being stuck with a 2gb thinking yeah I will be fine when 2gb wont be fine. BF4 is using more than 2gb vram and a 760 superclocked will handle that game on max settings. This card is on par with the 670 and 7970. what happens if a sli to 760 4gb awh my cards wont run anything lol stop talking shit.


How am I talking sh*t? maybe you should read what I wrote again and see how you didn't understand my statement.

From direct reports and specs its stated that the 4GB GTX 760 CANNOT utilize its 4GB VRAM because it doesn't have the capacity to do so!

I understand you being pissed off about that but apparently its a known fact.

If a game requires more than 2GB VRAM the 760 does not have the bandwidth or power to deliver anymore than that even if it houses 4GB, it can't deliver it.

Read em and weep sister .........

http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/?gid=1803&graphics=...


maybe when it comes to higher resolutions then it will be limited with bandwidth but not when it comes to vram for games. Linus tech tips says that your best getting a 4gb for they high res textures ect. There's a load of people saying 2gb of vram is not enough to get the 4gb and I'm one of them. Then there's people like you that are blinded by the fact that you don't need more than 2gb even though the next gen consoles are around the corner and games are going to require more vram to run games. There is a tone of people that are pissed about nvidia still only doing 2gb for standard cards. The ps4 has 8gb vram and that console is weak compared to high end pc's. If consoles have 8gb vram in them doesn't that make you think straight I know that it wont all be available for games it will go towards other stuff but still it will use a lot of that vram more than 2gb anyway for games. I'm just not lacking vram man no way the ps4 will slow up way before my pc does and if that need's 8gb vram fuck yeah I'm getting 4gb to be on the safe side. Like I said previously bf4 uses more than 2gb and bf3 was using around 1.5gb so a year and a half later it jumps over 2gb lol your going to be just fine with your 2gb I'm sure you will man :) .
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August 8, 2013 2:24:35 PM

My good god lol ffs ...... your still not getting what I'm saying dude!!

I'm not saying I wouldn't buy 4GB!

I'm not saying future games at 1080p won't require it at some stage!

I'm telling you, that your GTX 760 is NOT CAPABLE of using it's 4GB VRAM!!!!!

Why is that so hard for you to understand? use the link I gave you and read it ffs lol.

Only top end cards like the 690 or Titan or 7990 or cards of that ilk are powerful enough to use 4GB VRAM, poss the 780 as well? but NOT THE DAMN GTX 760 lmao!
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August 8, 2013 2:26:31 PM

Diamond-HP said:
My good god lol ffs ...... your still not getting what I'm saying dude!!

I'm not saying I wouldn't buy 4GB!

I'm not saying future games at 1080p won't require it at some stage!

I'm telling you, that your GTX 760 is NOT CAPABLE of using it's 4GB VRAM!!!!!

Why is that so hard for you to understand? use the link I gave you and read it ffs lol.

Only top end cards like the 690 or Titan or 7990 or cards of that ilk are powerful enough to use 4GB VRAM, poss the 780 as well? but NOT THE DAMN GTX 760 lmao!


we'll see man
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August 8, 2013 2:35:27 PM

LOL bloody hell, what are you like 12 yrs old or something?

There's nothing to see, its a fact, sorry to rain on your parade and all that.
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August 8, 2013 2:37:01 PM

Diamond-HP said:
LOL bloody hell, what are you like 12 yrs old or something?

There's nothing to see, its a fact, sorry to rain on your parade and all that.


lol. How much vram do you think my 760 will be limited to using?
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August 8, 2013 2:47:31 PM

Guy Parris said:
Diamond-HP said:
LOL bloody hell, what are you like 12 yrs old or something?

There's nothing to see, its a fact, sorry to rain on your parade and all that.


lol. How much vram do you think my 760 will be limited to using?


You could ask around or do some research but from what I've read it can't deliver more than 2GB unfortunately, the above review in the link I showed you pretty much explains that when it say's ......

"this Graphics Card is not powerful enough to work under the circumstances needed to use so much video memory and so it's a gimmick. Therefore, it performs like the reference card."

Reference as in the normal 2GB version.
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August 8, 2013 3:16:51 PM

Even better see for yourself, download MSI Afterburner.

Have it running in the background whilst playing one of these +2GB games you mentioned for a bit then have a look at MSI, the very bottom graph is for Memory.

Its measured in MB (Megabytes), take that number then google it into GB (Gigabytes) and see what your max number is?

I would bet you its not more than 2050 MB which is basically 2 Gigabyte.
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August 8, 2013 3:22:13 PM

Diamond-HP said:
Even better see for yourself, download MSI Afterburner.

Have it running in the background whilst playing one of these +2GB games you mentioned for a bit then have a look at MSI, the very bottom graph is for Memory.

Its measured in MB (Megabytes), take that number then google it into GB (Gigabytes) and see what your max number is?

I would bet you its not more than 2050 MB which is basically 2 Gigabyte.


I didn't say games are going over 2gb apart from bf4 some people say crysis 3 goes over 2gb with full msaa ect but i hate AA looks shit. I will do. I normally use msi afterburner
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August 28, 2013 8:25:41 PM

Diamond-HP said:
Guy Parris said:
Diamond-HP said:
LOL bloody hell, what are you like 12 yrs old or something?

There's nothing to see, its a fact, sorry to rain on your parade and all that.


lol. How much vram do you think my 760 will be limited to using?


You could ask around or do some research but from what I've read it can't deliver more than 2GB unfortunately, the above review in the link I showed you pretty much explains that when it say's ......

"this Graphics Card is not powerful enough to work under the circumstances needed to use so much video memory and so it's a gimmick. Therefore, it performs like the reference card."

Reference as in the normal 2GB version.


im not a tech-head but im talking from experience here, for some reason nvidia cards dont need high bandwidth unlike amd cards, nvidia are more stable when delivering frames unlike amd cards that tend to spike a lot and are very inconsistent, but amd cards have high bandwidth to compensate for that so they can be comparative.

a gtx660 2gig gave les fps's than a hd7870 2gig but some if not most games look more stable on a gtx660 than the hd7870 and guess what the gtx660 had way less bandwidth. dont always listen to benchmarks as most only show fps count, but you will realise when leaving with the card an using it day in day out that those benchmarks were useless. the gtx760 with its low bandwidth can utilise that 4 gig no problem I mean the difference in performance between a 4 and a 2 gig is to small to tell.
Also the gtx760 4gig still outperforms a hd7950 3gig anyway
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October 16, 2013 10:05:04 PM

Diamond-HP said:
Guy Parris said:
Diamond-HP said:
LOL bloody hell, what are you like 12 yrs old or something?

There's nothing to see, its a fact, sorry to rain on your parade and all that.


lol. How much vram do you think my 760 will be limited to using?


You could ask around or do some research but from what I've read it can't deliver more than 2GB unfortunately, the above review in the link I showed you pretty much explains that when it say's ......

"this Graphics Card is not powerful enough to work under the circumstances needed to use so much video memory and so it's a gimmick. Therefore, it performs like the reference card."

Reference as in the normal 2GB version.


Would that be the same response you would give about 4GB for anyone using (for instance) an Asus 3D gaming monitor?

I mean; does steroscopic 1080p 3D at 120Hz OR hi-def monitors at 1440Rez use more VRAM than a standard 2D 1080p monitor?

P.S.
As a final thought. I think hardware and software developers work things out together and will limit game VRAM requirements to 2.5GB at ULTRA settings ahead for the next two or four years because off all the top priced 3GB cards out there who are the modern game buyers; and they dont want to peeve them off just yet.

Align to the market and all that; whilst being a trendsetter.
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October 20, 2013 12:00:50 PM

Hi guys , one question

What about the Gtx 770 classified 4gb if i have a 3D TV 47''
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October 20, 2013 12:05:24 PM

Hi guys , one question

What about the Gtx 770 classified 4gb if i have a 3D TV 47''
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October 20, 2013 8:02:30 PM

matadordk55 said:
Hi guys , one question

What about the Gtx 770 classified 4gb if i have a 3D TV 47''


Two issues.

Good news and bad news.
First the good news.
1) The GTX770 will run on a 1080p TV just as easily as a 1080p monitor. Size don`t matter.
2) If you use the TV, your 3D experience will be at 24Hz, which is not as smooth and could cause seizures during gaming.

PC Monitors are designed to do 120Hz and are designed for 3D PC gaming. TV`s are designed more for watching movies.
That said; the PS3 does 3D gaming; and TV`s will take advantage of whatever is in them (at sub GTX770 levels).
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October 20, 2013 9:32:27 PM

jamesrosa5 said:
That's the only difference.


I have the Asus (NVidia) 3D 120Hz monitor (VG278H) and I have been asking that very same point for weeks, and nobody seems to REALLY know.

People take guesses; but nobody actually puts a link to a total expert account on that single point.

I `Think` it will help smooth out gaming at busy points in a game; but another person says that your PC Ram will take over if a bit of game is above and beyond the usual up-to 2Gb Limit.

But like I say; I have been trying to find out that exact point for weeks because I am considering GTX 760 4Gb in SLi or single GTX 780 3Gb for my new-build i7 4770 Sabertooth system. $700+ where I live.

I asked because I was concerned that `if` or `when` I bought a second GTX 780 to SLi (in two years) then I was concerned that by then the 3Gb limit would have been surpassed.

So...

last week

I asked NVidia to produce a 4GB GTX 780 Ti with 4Gb.

Luckily for me they released a statement at Montreal within two days of my posting that on forums.

I had asked because a triple monitor system in 3D would only allow a pair of SLi Titans to run it at acceptable rates in current games such as Crysis 3 at Ultra settings (and the Titans can cost between $2,000 and $4,000 a pair [silly money] its $4,000 a pair here in Japan).

So, it appears my Guess is correct.

4Gb does help in 3D gaming; even though ALL the tech sites only mention it being useful for ultra hi-def monitors at 1440p or at 3 screens in 2D, etc...

Your guess is maybe just as good.
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January 6, 2014 11:46:44 PM

Shasha23 said:

im not a tech-head but im talking from experience here, for some reason nvidia cards dont need high bandwidth unlike amd cards, nvidia are more stable when delivering frames unlike amd cards that tend to spike a lot and are very inconsistent, but amd cards have high bandwidth to compensate for that so they can be comparative.


There are 2 things to consider, the power of the GPU and the bandwidth.
All 4GB GTX760/770 models are not Nividia reference compliant, and none of them will be able to feed 4GB fast enough, because of GPU speed limits and the 256bit bus.
Look at Nvidia's GTX780, the reference design includes 3GB VRAM on a 384bit bus.

As for the 6GB on a Titan, useless as well, again limited by a lower bus, but hey, it's a nice marketing gimmick to have that amount of memory.
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January 6, 2014 11:49:49 PM

11761848,0,1382392But like I say; I have been trying to find out that exact point for weeks because I am considering GTX 760 4Gb in SLi or single GTX 780 3Gb for my new-build i7 4770 Sabertooth system. $700+ where I live.
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Sorry but the GTX760 is to slow for the purpose.
Get the GTX780 or go AMD for multi GPU setup instead..
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February 2, 2014 4:29:44 AM

Mineria said:
Shasha23 said:

im not a tech-head but im talking from experience here, for some reason nvidia cards dont need high bandwidth unlike amd cards, nvidia are more stable when delivering frames unlike amd cards that tend to spike a lot and are very inconsistent, but amd cards have high bandwidth to compensate for that so they can be comparative.


There are 2 things to consider, the power of the GPU and the bandwidth.
All 4GB GTX760/770 models are not Nividia reference compliant, and none of them will be able to feed 4GB fast enough, because of GPU speed limits and the 256bit bus.
Look at Nvidia's GTX780, the reference design includes 3GB VRAM on a 384bit bus.

As for the 6GB on a Titan, useless as well, again limited by a lower bus, but hey, it's a nice marketing gimmick to have that amount of memory.


Okay right all what you said is just bs! I'm currently uploading a cod ghosts video and my vram is going over 3gb! now I have this so called gimmick 256bit! and I have a 4gb card and it runs the game smooth as anything! all these people that don't no s**t about pc's need to stop giving people bad advice!. The last person I spoke to said awh 4gb is overkill for 1080p and the card will run out of steam and wont be able to use all the 4gb because it wont be powerful enough! Well what do you know!. I have been saying to people for the past 8 months not to get 2gb gpu's becasue of the next gen games then people come a long like you talking bs! and arguing about 1080p only needing 2gb well I guess you have just made a complete a** of yourself :) .
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February 3, 2014 5:24:46 PM

Guy Parris said:
Mineria said:
Shasha23 said:

im not a tech-head but im talking from experience here, for some reason nvidia cards dont need high bandwidth unlike amd cards, nvidia are more stable when delivering frames unlike amd cards that tend to spike a lot and are very inconsistent, but amd cards have high bandwidth to compensate for that so they can be comparative.


There are 2 things to consider, the power of the GPU and the bandwidth.
All 4GB GTX760/770 models are not Nividia reference compliant, and none of them will be able to feed 4GB fast enough, because of GPU speed limits and the 256bit bus.
Look at Nvidia's GTX780, the reference design includes 3GB VRAM on a 384bit bus.

As for the 6GB on a Titan, useless as well, again limited by a lower bus, but hey, it's a nice marketing gimmick to have that amount of memory.


Okay right all what you said is just bs! I'm currently uploading a cod ghosts video and my vram is going over 3gb! now I have this so called gimmick 256bit! and I have a 4gb card and it runs the game smooth as anything! all these people that don't no s**t about pc's need to stop giving people bad advice!. The last person I spoke to said awh 4gb is overkill for 1080p and the card will run out of steam and wont be able to use all the 4gb because it wont be powerful enough! Well what do you know!. I have been saying to people for the past 8 months not to get 2gb gpu's becasue of the next gen games then people come a long like you talking bs! and arguing about 1080p only needing 2gb well I guess you have just made a complete a** of yourself :) .

The GTX760 is to slow to handle 4GB of VRAM, and the GTX770 can barely handle it, but it's not bad.
I have both a R9 280x 3GB as a GTX 770 4GB, and I can see the difference @ 2560x1400 when it comes to loading up those memory chips with more than 2GB textures, 64bit pr. GB vs 128bit pr GB does a difference, what ever you like it or not, I prefer the GTX 770 though, since it has more raw rendering power.
I did not say one word about 1080p only needing 2GB, a heavy modded Skyrim and BF4 on Ultra settings already pushed that limit.
Btw. I probably know quite a bit more about PC's than you imagine ;) 
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