Future Build (RATE 1-10) *AND WHY!

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BUILD 1: ($3500 Max)
(I don't like PCPP very much sometimes. The GPU are supposed to be superclocked edition and CPU is supposed to be extreme edition)
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1dFXN
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1dFXN/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1dFXN/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($569.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($248.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($153.37 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($219.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($152.95 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill Lightning 800W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($129.97 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $3229.70
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-05 21:57 EDT-0400)

BUILD 2: ($1500 Max)
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1dFbf
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1dFbf/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1dFbf/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100 92.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($97.13 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($128.53 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive ($171.97 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N180UBE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($16.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Blue ATX Full Tower Case ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($129.97 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1473.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-05 21:38 EDT-0400)
 
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Thats a pretty awesome build (9), here are my recommendations...

1. I prefer ASUS ROG or MSI Motherboards, love the Bios, very easy to use and understand. This is just a personal preference
2. Don't buy the samsung SSD, look for the Sandisk and you can save about $100, put that towards either more RAM or a larger SSD, the RAM will be nice if you do any kind of home servers, virtual machines, or run a lot of programs simultaneously.
3. Post pictures when you have it built :D
4. PSU Is way too much, I would go with a 750 watt if you want to do some overclocking and future proof your system
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Thats a pretty awesome build (9), here are my recommendations...

1. I prefer ASUS ROG or MSI Motherboards, love the Bios, very easy to use and understand. This is just a personal preference
2. Don't buy the samsung SSD, look for the Sandisk and you can save about $100, put that towards either more RAM or a larger SSD, the RAM will be nice if you do any kind of home servers, virtual machines, or run a lot of programs simultaneously.
3. Post pictures when you have it built :D
4. PSU Is way too much, I would go with a 750 watt if you want to do some overclocking and future proof your system
 
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Infinitus Aeternum

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I chose the hex core because I believe it will be highly used in the future. And after all the reviews and re-reviews It's stats and longevity hold up against everything I've seen.
 

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It will take *YEARS* before games and programs begin to make full use of hex core CPUs. Even hardcore Photoshop usage only takes 2 - 3 cores at the most.
 

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My last pc was 6 years at 2.5k... I am hoping to make it 10yrs on this one...
 

g-unit1111

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Yeah but a hex core CPU isn't really going to make much of a difference in how long your PC lasts. Quad core is pretty much the norm anymore. People are still using Q6600s and i7-920s and are getting by just fine.
 

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Funny. 2.9Ghz vs 3.8... Yeah. They ARE the same. All of the benchmarks surpass those two by almost 20% improvement. And the temperature readings and energy stability is what mainly increases longevity. And since the 3930k far surpasses the 920 and an "OC" 3570k is close in specs (Which means 'OC' vs 'OC' 3930 still wins) and waiting for (4770k) new chipset with VERY minimal gain is pointless to me... I'm going with a tried and true future chip with room for growth, great temp control, and is highly proven already. I don't care if it costs a bit more... that's the point of having a 2+k build.
 

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Well none of those points are really true. Check out some benchmarks. The differences between many high end CPUs are so minute that there's almost no reason to spend $300 more for a CPU because of "future proofing" when there's no such thing. But do what you want.
 

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There is no such thing. You are right there. But I believe that when someone says "I want a future-proof computer" you read it as "I want a computer with a really high probability of not being surpassed by the 'general' mid-range computer within at least the next 5-10 years. To many people get all literal and high horse when someone uses that term. It's why I try and avoid it.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-920-vs-Intel-Core-i7-3930K
 

g-unit1111

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CPU Boss is about as full of **** as the Windows Experience Index is. They both make some very baseless claims. Some of the aritcles I've read on there make some absolutely ridiculous claims and don't back them up with facts. But the thing you have to keep in mind is that every generation of CPU is going to offer a 5 - 10% increase in performance over the previous one, but the CPUs themselves don't depreciate in value the way that GPUs do. People are still getting a lot of use out of older i7-920s and Q6600s, and don't have plans to get rid of their CPUs.
 

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Intel Core i7 920 @ 2.67GHz Average CPU Mark 5009
Description: Socket: LGA1366, Clockspeed: 2.7 GHz, Turbo Speed: 2.9 GHz, No of Cores: 4 (2 logical cores per physical), Max TDP: 130 W
Other names: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz
CPU Launched: Q4 2008
CPUmark/$Price: 16.21 Overall Rank: 190
Last Price Change: $309 USD (2010-07-04)

Samples: 921



Intel Core i7-3930K @ 3.20GHz Average CPU Mark 12086
Description: Socket: LGA2011, Clockspeed: 3.2 GHz, Turbo Speed: 3.8 GHz, No of Cores: 6 (2 logical cores per physical), Max TDP: 130 W
Other names: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU @ 3.20GHz
CPU Launched: Q4 2011
CPUmark/$Price: 21.54 Overall Rank: 10
Last Price Change: $560.99 USD (2011-12-01)

Samples: 753



Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40GHz Average CPU Mark 2971
Description: Socket: LGA775, Clockspeed: 2.4 GHz, No of Cores: 4, Max TDP: 105 W
Other names: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
CPU Launched: Q4 2008
CPUmark/$Price: 15.87 Overall Rank: 427
Last Price Change: $187.2 USD (2007-01-08)

Samples: 1165



Intel Core i5-3570K @ 3.40GHz Average CPU Mark 7118
Description: Socket: LGA1155, Clockspeed: 3.4 GHz, Turbo Speed: 3.8 GHz, No of Cores: 4, Max TDP: 77 W
Other names: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz
CPU Launched: Q2 2012
CPUmark/$Price: 32.50 Overall Rank: 93
Last Price Change: $219 USD (2012-04-30)

Samples: 2033



NOW that you've seen the comparative benchmarks... still saying it is a minuscule difference? The 3930k far surpasses any of these with ease. the only ones close to it is the new 4770k (Or whatever) by 1000hz and the 3770k which I'll post below. The 3770k is not as stable and has been problematic in high end gaming devices as it's power isn't as stable.

Intel Core i7-3770K @ 3.50GHz Average CPU Mark 9602
Description: Socket: LGA1155, Clockspeed: 3.5 GHz, Turbo Speed: 3.9 GHz, No of Cores: 4 (2 logical cores per physical), Max TDP: 77 W
Other names: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
CPU Launched: Q2 2012
CPUmark/$Price: 31.48 Overall Rank: 26
Last Price Change: $304.99 USD (2012-04-27)

Samples: 2058

Intel Core i7-3930K @ 3.20GHz Average CPU Mark 12086
Description: Socket: LGA2011, Clockspeed: 3.2 GHz, Turbo Speed: 3.8 GHz, No of Cores: 6 (2 logical cores per physical), Max TDP: 130 W
Other names: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU @ 3.20GHz
CPU Launched: Q4 2011
CPUmark/$Price: 21.54 Overall Rank: 10
Last Price Change: $560.99 USD (2011-12-01)

Samples: 753

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
 

Infinitus Aeternum

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Now I will say I could save $$$ by going LGA1155 with a 2600k but I am riding on the hope that hyper-threading and hex will find more use in future gaming and hardware intensive tasking. Even over the Sandy I may hold out on purchase until testing has been run on Ivy bridge E. But that is still a little ways off. (I believe the only main difference will be Overclocking... IMO)
 

g-unit1111

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I'll put it this way - if you have another use for your PC besides gaming like rendering or CS5/6 then I would justify getting the 3930K. Otherwise the i5-4670K is more than enough.