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olsaltydog

olsaltydog

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Been lurking in the shadows for a while now gaining more information and would first like to thank you guys for all the information you have shared and researched.

Haven't built a new PC in over a decade for myself (No I am not still using the same original one) so have got the bug to give it a go again. This time I am looking to build a PC that prioritizes Video Editing > Gaming> Playing movies and just browsing the internet. Here is what I have put together on my list so far and feel free to correct me on anything or give me blatant suggestions on what i went the wrong way with.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1cRry
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1cRry/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1cRry/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus Maximus V Formula EATX LGA1155 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card
Case: Cooler Master Cosmos II (Black) ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)

Now first would say you can probably ignore the RAM my intention isnt to use it all at once just 2 cards. When i deal with a new company I tend to get backups at the same time I will get the original just in case but if all work then it wont hurt to put all 4 in.

Main concern I have will be the power supply from everything I have listed I feel comfortable that the 750 will get he job done but if I put the system on a load should be concerned about that and increase to an 850 instead.

Another thing you might notice or need to know is currently I plan to run this system on the family TV (1080) as well with a tuner card so the graphics card will not be used to its potential except when I am on the second Asus monitor I already have. So this will be supporting both monitors possibly simultaneously.

Things to know that may determine advice are.
1. Looking to do gaming its not a mainstay but seeing as alot of console games are becoming more multi-platform and turning into mini PC's figured this will be my first attempt to cross over.
2. Price is not an issue but do like value for the performance I will be getting.
3. My electric bill is not an issue unless this PC itself is gonna cost me an extra 50 a month just to run it and neither is sound/ noise (Sleep with a window A/C so its already noisy at night).
 
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Im of the opinion that if your just using it as an OS and programs drive, there's no real reason to get an 840 Pro over the vanilla 840. The main difference between them is write speeds and number of write cycles.
If its an OS drive, write speeds arent going to be that much of a concern. In that scenario, Reads and and random I/O performance is what will count, and it performs the same as the 840 Pro in this aspect.
Write cycles, again aren't a concern if your using it as an OS/programs drive. If it were a render output drive or scratch disk, then you would want something that can stand up to more cycles (and the write performance would help in this application).

If you didnt care for the gaming aspect of the build, basically the...
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manofchalk

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If possible, get a 32GB kit of RAM rather than buying individual sticks. More than likely you will be fine, but kits of RAM are tested so that they will all run at the advertised settings. With multiple individual sticks, there could be small discrepancies between them that will lower performance.
Also I dont entirely think 32GB is necessary. I would go with a 2x8GB kit initially, and then if you do need more then upgrade.

You can get a far cheaper motherboard that will do the same job.
Same with the case, but I can definitely see the value in over-spending on a case.

You will need more than 256GB of storage space, throw on a TB Hard drive or two (to distribute disk load during rendering).

750W is more than enough for that rig, you could add in another 7950 to the rig and still be fine in terms of power.

For a ~$2000 editing/gaming machine, this is what I would go with.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($499.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 CPU Cooler ($76.23 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($233.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($152.95 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $2026.04
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-03 11:57 EDT-0400)

Far stronger Hex-Core CPU on a platform that allows up to 64GB of RAM. 3x2TB HDD's to distribute disk load (one for raw footage and project files, one for render output and other for programs, personal storage and games) as well as an SSD thats fine for the OS and most programs. Stronger GPU, Far beefier CPU heatsink. Case is of a similar aesthetic to the Cosmos and can handle just as much.
 
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olsaltydog

olsaltydog

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Thanks I didnt realize i left out some other things and probably should add them. I do on hand currently have several 2TB HD (12 to be exact). Also when i was looking at the parts listed on the PCbuilder site all they showed in the 8gb ram was individual ram sticks. Was intending to pick it up in bundle.

Also is it just for saving a few bucks that you are recommending the Samsung 840 and not the 840 pro?
 
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olsaltydog

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thanks BT,

Guess my final question would be how adaptable would the system i listed be when compared to Manofchalks? Im asking as if I personally dont care for the aspect of gaming on the system and decide to make it a dedicated video editing system which would you suggest. The same goes for the other way around since if it turns out I do enjoy the gaming aspect alot and want to take make it a dedicated gaming system and building a second more dedicated system for video editing.
 
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the main difference is that my build has 32gb of ram instead of 16 which may help you get through a large rendering job and that i upgraded the SSD capacity and used a regular 7970 instead of a ghz edition

if this is to be a dedicated editing rig, id drop the video card to something like a 760. there was a benchmark which compared the 660,660ti,670,and 680 in the adobe suite and there wasnt too much of a diffference.

if it was to be a dedicated gaming rig, id get a z87 platform i5 rig as the x79 offers nothing for gaming
 
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Im of the opinion that if your just using it as an OS and programs drive, there's no real reason to get an 840 Pro over the vanilla 840. The main difference between them is write speeds and number of write cycles.
If its an OS drive, write speeds arent going to be that much of a concern. In that scenario, Reads and and random I/O performance is what will count, and it performs the same as the 840 Pro in this aspect.
Write cycles, again aren't a concern if your using it as an OS/programs drive. If it were a render output drive or scratch disk, then you would want something that can stand up to more cycles (and the write performance would help in this application).

If you didnt care for the gaming aspect of the build, basically the same as BigTroll suggested. Drop the graphics card to something lower, or replace it with a dedicated workstation card if your application can leverage it.
Though regardless, you will need some kind of display output. The X79 platform doesnt support integrated graphics.

If you wanted a dedicated gaming system, I echo BigTroll here, get a Z87 i5 rig with a high end graphics card and 8GB of RAM.

 
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