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Hi all, i am about to buy my first gaming pc see link below. now just before i buy i would ask about the Asus P8Z77-V PRO, i like it and have rad some good reviews but when i have asked about my rig before they have suggested something like a ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M without saying why.

i will mainly use the PC for gaming and some light CODE work, thoughts anyone if i should pick another MB or stick with what i have so fat in my selection, reasons would be great so i can ask question on your reason.

Thank you in advance
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1c6S0
 
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Getting the newest is generally a good thing and should lead to an upgrade path, but in this case it's rather iffy, and for the here and now, and immediate future is where I'm looking. Haswell is the latest and greatest.....but...heat issues, more so than Ivy Bridge (IB) so doesn't OC as well..of the 4670K's I've built so far, on average 4.3 - 4.5 GHz, compared the the IB 3570K that ave 4.6-4.8GHz, so overall the IB is the faster CPU and performs better (granted when OCed, but why buy a K if not going to OC......With IB you save about $30+ on mobo/CPU which about buys a 212 EVO CPU cooler......also many have been talking about being able to jump right up to Broadwell, problem there is Broadwell for the Desktop is looking like it...
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I have the P8Z77-V PRO.

Its a pretty nice board, easy to work with. ASUS has a nicely refined BIOS. The following is probably just bad luck on my part and I'd still recommend the board, but first one for me was DOA. The Realtek audio on my second/current one crapped out after 6 months, and despite being covered under warranty, I've kept it, using a XONAR PCI-E x4 audio card instead.

I think you would be equally satisfied with a comparable ASRock board, they're a pretty reputable vendor nowadays.
 
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so the ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 is a good card? also why is it best for the chip i choose?


 
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very good reply thank you.

may i ask a favour and could you link the boards you talk about a little lost which ones you talk about with just the number.

My main thought on ASUS was i would have or potentialy go for a ASUS GPU so my thinking was they would go better together, that may be a load of toddle.

thanks in advance



 
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The Rock EX4 is a great mobo, I run one (which originally was just going to be for a testing mobo, but this has taken everything I've thrown at it, and it has become my primary WS, I've prob had close to a 100 different sets of sticks in it, 20+ GPUs, and who knows what else, OCs great, I run my 3570K 24/7 at 4.7GHz w/ 32GB of 2400 Tridents.....and using same brand for GPU doesn't mean a whit, no help at all
 
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thank you for your help on this its perfect so what you are suggesting is to future proof it go for something like:

CPU: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Graphics-BX80646I74770-Generation-Technology/dp/B00CV3E3UC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372929367&sr=8-1&keywords=Core+i5-4670k

MB: http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-Z87-PRO3-Motherboard-Generation/dp/B00CYWDKWM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1372928075&sr=8-2&keywords=ASRock+Z87#productDetails

new full list http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1d9yr (which is working out cheaper and with air cooler)

or is this just overkill due to the GPU? sorry for all the questions


 
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thank you for your information, helpfull from someone who usues one, are you able to link the one you use on Amazon uk?

Thanks again



 
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thank you is it the Z77 EXTREME4-M or Z77 EXTREME4

http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-Z77-Extreme4-M-Motherboard-Socket/dp/B007P710G4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1372952066&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Z77-Extreme4-Motherboard-Supports-CrossFireX/dp/B007KTY4A6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372952066&sr=8-1
 
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Thank you.

now to just decide if i go 4th gen with the 660ti or is it overkill for that GPU or to stick with 3rd gen and the 660ti

i am now down to 2 MB's though now thank you, hopefully someone can help with the 3rd or 4th gen questions :)





 
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thank you, ill await the other endeavour37a reply that's been helping me and pick my answer.


 
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Take you time mate no rush, and thank you, I too have had one if those days



 
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Thank you so much for taking the time to post this.

I don't know much about the components so advise was what I was after when you put it like this it makes it slot clearer to me. Yes I do want to future proof the system so more modern technology is what I am looking for, there is doo much information out there on the new 7xxs and 4th gens it's hard to get s definative answer from just reading.

I'll take a good look this evening and make a choice (no doubt something may change in a month's time) thanks again I'll keep you posted with my choice and pick and answer




 
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Getting the newest is generally a good thing and should lead to an upgrade path, but in this case it's rather iffy, and for the here and now, and immediate future is where I'm looking. Haswell is the latest and greatest.....but...heat issues, more so than Ivy Bridge (IB) so doesn't OC as well..of the 4670K's I've built so far, on average 4.3 - 4.5 GHz, compared the the IB 3570K that ave 4.6-4.8GHz, so overall the IB is the faster CPU and performs better (granted when OCed, but why buy a K if not going to OC......With IB you save about $30+ on mobo/CPU which about buys a 212 EVO CPU cooler......also many have been talking about being able to jump right up to Broadwell, problem there is Broadwell for the Desktop is looking like it won't be till 2015...that's a year and a half away....and then...if it does arrive on the same socket, are you going to get a new CPU w/ a prob 10+ % gain at base clock and be happy ....or would you like that PLUS gains that will be available from DDR4, because if you'll want to jump to DDR4 also, then you'll need a new mobo anyway.....Right now for stock locked CPUs I'm leaning to Haswell, but for enthusiast builds I'm leaning towards IB for higher clocks and overall performance, then in 15 upgrade towards Broadwell/DDR4 and a newer mobo that might be better equipped SATA< USB, etc
 
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Thank you for all your expertise, I offered/provided the same advice I do to all my clients based on the input I get, you may think it's bad, but I don't see any real positive arguments from you, both hot, well yeah, though IB cooler at upper OC so can OC higher w/ IB, which negates the + 10% at stock and gives an edge to IB in total performance...

You bring up DDR4, put it into context rather than blowing smoke, I said when Broadwell for desktop comes out, DDR is due in 2014, Broadwell for Desktop not till 15, so of course there will be new mobos for Broadwell and will prob be DDR4, their no doubt will be advances in the chipsets, by then, SATA may be to IV by then, etcc - yet you are saying this current mobo will be good 1.5 to 2 years from now, I disagree - I don't see Intel letting themselves fall into AMD's ongoing mistake of keeping the same socket forever...Look at their top of the line (same socket, same basic memory architecture they've had, The 8350 basically tops out at 1866 with a stick per channel (and that testing was done with 4GB sticks), I can easily see Broadwell when finalized (whether it be 1150 socket or different support 4x16GB 64GB of DRAM - basically what is available today is available - there is no real upgrade path mobo wise to Broadwell unless you'll want to use old hardware, which goes against your argument of getting the newest available
 
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