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July 4, 2013 3:01:07 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next Month

Budget Range: $1000-$1600

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Video editing, gaming, other random internet crap

Parts Not Required: Everything but rig

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: went with prebuilt rig at cyberpower

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: no preference

Overclocking: Maybe if I need it

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: don't need one

Additional Comments: Trying to build a video editing workstation that can run both windows and hackintosh. Rig needs to run AVID and Final Cut Pro 7

Here is the cyberpower rig http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1F8FPL

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-4770K 3.50 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1150

FAN: Asetek 550LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Advanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) [+18] (Single Enermax Enlobal Silent High Performance 120MM Fan [+15])

HDD: 2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [+27] (Single Drive)

HDD2: 240GB Corsair Neutron GTX SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 555MB/s Read & 511MB/s Write [+244] (Single Drive)

MEMORY: 32GB (8GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory

MOTHERBOARD: [CrossFireX] GIGABYTE Z87-HD3 Intel Z87 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ Ultra Durable 4 Plus, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 2 PCIe x16 (1 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 2 PCIe x1 & 2 PCI

POWERSUPPLY: 600 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-600CXV2

VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0

Current Price $1555

I haven't built a system in a long time so this is probably a terrible build, what do you guys think?

-Tris
a b 4 Gaming
July 4, 2013 5:19:07 PM

Yes, this build is quite bad (sorry, had to say it). Here's what I recommend: This build here has dual 7970 GHz GPUs (each is much faster than a 660, combined will wreck shop), as well as a 4670k (one step lower than the 4770k, but you probably won't notice the performance difference). It also has a 1 TB HDD and a 128GB SSD of a higher quality than the one listed, as well as a spectacular, 80 Plus Gold Rated HX750 Corsair PSU, which is much better than the one listed. This build has 16GB of RAM, as 32GB is beyond unnecessary; in fact, most people never end up using more than three or four gigs for daily tasks. This also has (in my opinion) a better heatsink, as well as a great Corsair case.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.97 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1559.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-04 20:15 EDT-0400)
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a b 4 Gaming
July 4, 2013 5:36:14 PM

TheBigTroll said:
^ its a video editing rig, not so much gaming. a i5 and 8gb of ram will severly cripple the build

heres how i would do it
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1dlD5


OP said gaming as well as video editing... It is up to them which one they would rather have more of in their build. Or, we could compromise with 16GB of RAM, a 7970GHz, and a 4770k... That would just about even out the cost, would it not? As well as allow for 32GB upgrade later?
a b 4 Gaming
July 4, 2013 5:41:31 PM

the key word in the post is "possible gaming"
a b 4 Gaming
July 4, 2013 5:44:25 PM

TheBigTroll said:
the key word in the post is "possible gaming"


I would still like to keep all possibilities open. It's never good to shut yourself out of an option. I still think that 4770k+16GB RAM+7970 GHz is going to be the best; it will offer great gaming as well as great editing, and if, at some point in their life, OP finds that 16GB RAM isn't enough, they can easily grab another couple RAM sticks.
a b 4 Gaming
July 4, 2013 5:50:37 PM

the i7 4770k, 32gb of ram, and 760 will still play games pretty well.

ddr3 ram isnt going to go cheaper. ddr4 will roll along and the manufacturers will continue being a pain a raise prices
a b 4 Gaming
July 4, 2013 5:54:14 PM

TheBigTroll said:
the i7 4770k, 32gb of ram, and 760 will still play games pretty well.

ddr3 ram isnt going to go cheaper. ddr4 will roll along and the manufacturers will continue being a pain a raise prices


But the difference from 760 to 7970 GHz will be much larger than the difference from 16GB-32GB of RAM in a system.
And I never said it would be cheaper; I'm simply saying that it's easier to upgrade RAM than to upgrade a GPU.
a b 4 Gaming
July 4, 2013 6:02:17 PM

as the OP stated, possiblity of gaming. more ram is going to be more relevant than more GPU horsepower. if he was specifically going to gaming and video edit as a side option, he would have stated that and i would specifically provide a powerful GPU like a 770-780. the 760 sint going to take on a major role in the first place and when it is called on for gaming, it will provide a decent amount of power
a b 4 Gaming
July 4, 2013 6:19:09 PM

TheBigTroll said:
as the OP stated, possiblity of gaming. more ram is going to be more relevant than more GPU horsepower. if he was specifically going to gaming and video edit as a side option, he would have stated that and i would specifically provide a powerful GPU like a 770-780. the 760 sint going to take on a major role in the first place and when it is called on for gaming, it will provide a decent amount of power


But 16GB to 32GB will not make a very large difference. Only once in any form of video/photo editing was I able to push my 16GB of RAM to the limit, and it was in a situation that I would probably never see again in my life.
And you can't argue that adding two sticks of RAM for 32GB is much, MUCH easier than having to take out a GPU, reinstall another, get the different drivers, etc., especially if you need the money and have to sell your card on Ebay.
July 4, 2013 7:32:14 PM

So, I really need the system to have two 2tb hds and at least 16gb ram because like I said it's going to have dual windows and hackintosh os. This thing is gonna need lots of ram because it will be primarily used for HD video editing and maybe some games on the side, but games like Fifa.

Thanks for the help so far.
a b 4 Gaming
July 4, 2013 7:40:22 PM

triscutbiscut said:
So, I really need the system to have two 2tb hds and at least 16gb ram because like I said it's going to have dual windows and hackintosh os. This thing is gonna need lots of ram because it will be primarily used for HD video editing and maybe some games on the side, but games like Fifa.

Thanks for the help so far.


Since TheBigTroll and I have been arguing about this, may I ask you a question?
If it came down to it, would you rather have the extra 16 GB of RAM (total 32GB) for better initial performance, but worse performance in gaming (and difficult to upgrade), or 16 GB of RAM (easily upgradable to 32GB later) and a better GPU so that you can run games like Fifa at higher FPS? Please, just give us your opinion; after all, our goal here is just to get the best setup for your personal needs.
If you don't know/can't answer the question, that's perfectly fine; it's just nice to see the OPs opinion sometimes. :) 
July 4, 2013 7:51:49 PM

dannyboy2233 said:
triscutbiscut said:
So, I really need the system to have two 2tb hds and at least 16gb ram because like I said it's going to have dual windows and hackintosh os. This thing is gonna need lots of ram because it will be primarily used for HD video editing and maybe some games on the side, but games like Fifa.

Thanks for the help so far.


Since TheBigTroll and I have been arguing about this, may I ask you a question?
If it came down to it, would you rather have the extra 16 GB of RAM (total 32GB) for better initial performance, but worse performance in gaming (and difficult to upgrade), or 16 GB of RAM (easily upgradable to 32GB later) and a better GPU so that you can run games like Fifa at higher FPS? Please, just give us your opinion; after all, our goal here is just to get the best setup for your personal needs.
If you don't know/can't answer the question, that's perfectly fine; it's just nice to see the OPs opinion sometimes. :) 


I defo would like to be able to upgrade it at a later date, so if the initial set-up is 16gb, that should be ok, It's just nice to have the option to upgrade should I find that the system lags with HD video.
a b 4 Gaming
July 4, 2013 8:07:26 PM

triscutbiscut said:
dannyboy2233 said:
triscutbiscut said:
So, I really need the system to have two 2tb hds and at least 16gb ram because like I said it's going to have dual windows and hackintosh os. This thing is gonna need lots of ram because it will be primarily used for HD video editing and maybe some games on the side, but games like Fifa.

Thanks for the help so far.


Since TheBigTroll and I have been arguing about this, may I ask you a question?
If it came down to it, would you rather have the extra 16 GB of RAM (total 32GB) for better initial performance, but worse performance in gaming (and difficult to upgrade), or 16 GB of RAM (easily upgradable to 32GB later) and a better GPU so that you can run games like Fifa at higher FPS? Please, just give us your opinion; after all, our goal here is just to get the best setup for your personal needs.
If you don't know/can't answer the question, that's perfectly fine; it's just nice to see the OPs opinion sometimes. :) 


I defo would like to be able to upgrade it at a later date, so if the initial set-up is 16gb, that should be ok, It's just nice to have the option to upgrade should I find that the system lags with HD video.


Okay :)  In that case, grab the 4770k, 16 GB of RAM, and a Sapphire Vapor-X 7970 GHz Edition :) 
Also, if someone has been especially helpful/productive in a thread, don't forget to give them a best answer! :) 
July 4, 2013 8:21:19 PM

dannyboy2233 said:
triscutbiscut said:
dannyboy2233 said:
triscutbiscut said:
So, I really need the system to have two 2tb hds and at least 16gb ram because like I said it's going to have dual windows and hackintosh os. This thing is gonna need lots of ram because it will be primarily used for HD video editing and maybe some games on the side, but games like Fifa.

Thanks for the help so far.


Since TheBigTroll and I have been arguing about this, may I ask you a question?
If it came down to it, would you rather have the extra 16 GB of RAM (total 32GB) for better initial performance, but worse performance in gaming (and difficult to upgrade), or 16 GB of RAM (easily upgradable to 32GB later) and a better GPU so that you can run games like Fifa at higher FPS? Please, just give us your opinion; after all, our goal here is just to get the best setup for your personal needs.
If you don't know/can't answer the question, that's perfectly fine; it's just nice to see the OPs opinion sometimes. :) 


I defo would like to be able to upgrade it at a later date, so if the initial set-up is 16gb, that should be ok, It's just nice to have the option to upgrade should I find that the system lags with HD video.


Okay :)  In that case, grab the 4770k, 16 GB of RAM, and a Sapphire Vapor-X 7970 GHz Edition :) 
Also, if someone has been especially helpful/productive in a thread, don't forget to give them a best answer! :) 


Ok so how does this one look?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1dogs

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a b 4 Gaming
July 4, 2013 8:25:39 PM
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triscutbiscut said:
dannyboy2233 said:
triscutbiscut said:
dannyboy2233 said:
triscutbiscut said:
So, I really need the system to have two 2tb hds and at least 16gb ram because like I said it's going to have dual windows and hackintosh os. This thing is gonna need lots of ram because it will be primarily used for HD video editing and maybe some games on the side, but games like Fifa.

Thanks for the help so far.


Since TheBigTroll and I have been arguing about this, may I ask you a question?
If it came down to it, would you rather have the extra 16 GB of RAM (total 32GB) for better initial performance, but worse performance in gaming (and difficult to upgrade), or 16 GB of RAM (easily upgradable to 32GB later) and a better GPU so that you can run games like Fifa at higher FPS? Please, just give us your opinion; after all, our goal here is just to get the best setup for your personal needs.
If you don't know/can't answer the question, that's perfectly fine; it's just nice to see the OPs opinion sometimes. :) 


I defo would like to be able to upgrade it at a later date, so if the initial set-up is 16gb, that should be ok, It's just nice to have the option to upgrade should I find that the system lags with HD video.


Okay :)  In that case, grab the 4770k, 16 GB of RAM, and a Sapphire Vapor-X 7970 GHz Edition :) 
Also, if someone has been especially helpful/productive in a thread, don't forget to give them a best answer! :) 


Ok so how does this one look?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1dogs


That looks great! For your needs, I don't think this could be any more awesome :) 
It's been a pleasure "working with you", so to speak; have a great time with this build, and have some fun editing those videos! :D 
July 4, 2013 8:27:26 PM

dannyboy2233 said:
triscutbiscut said:
dannyboy2233 said:
triscutbiscut said:
dannyboy2233 said:
triscutbiscut said:
So, I really need the system to have two 2tb hds and at least 16gb ram because like I said it's going to have dual windows and hackintosh os. This thing is gonna need lots of ram because it will be primarily used for HD video editing and maybe some games on the side, but games like Fifa.

Thanks for the help so far.


Since TheBigTroll and I have been arguing about this, may I ask you a question?
If it came down to it, would you rather have the extra 16 GB of RAM (total 32GB) for better initial performance, but worse performance in gaming (and difficult to upgrade), or 16 GB of RAM (easily upgradable to 32GB later) and a better GPU so that you can run games like Fifa at higher FPS? Please, just give us your opinion; after all, our goal here is just to get the best setup for your personal needs.
If you don't know/can't answer the question, that's perfectly fine; it's just nice to see the OPs opinion sometimes. :) 


I defo would like to be able to upgrade it at a later date, so if the initial set-up is 16gb, that should be ok, It's just nice to have the option to upgrade should I find that the system lags with HD video.


Okay :)  In that case, grab the 4770k, 16 GB of RAM, and a Sapphire Vapor-X 7970 GHz Edition :) 
Also, if someone has been especially helpful/productive in a thread, don't forget to give them a best answer! :) 


Ok so how does this one look?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1dogs


That looks great! For your needs, I don't think this could be any more awesome :) 
It's been a pleasure "working with you", so to speak; have a great time with this build, and have some fun editing those videos! :D 


Awesome, thanks so much!!
a b 4 Gaming
July 4, 2013 8:34:54 PM

triscutbiscut said:
dannyboy2233 said:
triscutbiscut said:
dannyboy2233 said:
triscutbiscut said:
dannyboy2233 said:
triscutbiscut said:
So, I really need the system to have two 2tb hds and at least 16gb ram because like I said it's going to have dual windows and hackintosh os. This thing is gonna need lots of ram because it will be primarily used for HD video editing and maybe some games on the side, but games like Fifa.

Thanks for the help so far.


Since TheBigTroll and I have been arguing about this, may I ask you a question?
If it came down to it, would you rather have the extra 16 GB of RAM (total 32GB) for better initial performance, but worse performance in gaming (and difficult to upgrade), or 16 GB of RAM (easily upgradable to 32GB later) and a better GPU so that you can run games like Fifa at higher FPS? Please, just give us your opinion; after all, our goal here is just to get the best setup for your personal needs.
If you don't know/can't answer the question, that's perfectly fine; it's just nice to see the OPs opinion sometimes. :) 


I defo would like to be able to upgrade it at a later date, so if the initial set-up is 16gb, that should be ok, It's just nice to have the option to upgrade should I find that the system lags with HD video.


Okay :)  In that case, grab the 4770k, 16 GB of RAM, and a Sapphire Vapor-X 7970 GHz Edition :) 
Also, if someone has been especially helpful/productive in a thread, don't forget to give them a best answer! :) 


Ok so how does this one look?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1dogs


That looks great! For your needs, I don't think this could be any more awesome :) 
It's been a pleasure "working with you", so to speak; have a great time with this build, and have some fun editing those videos! :D 


Awesome, thanks so much!!


Thanks to you too, my good man! :) 
a b 4 Gaming
July 5, 2013 4:06:51 AM

the biggest flaw right there is no SSD. your system is severly crippled because of that
a b 4 Gaming
July 5, 2013 10:08:25 AM

TheBigTroll said:
the biggest flaw right there is no SSD. your system is severly crippled because of that


Agreed; my apologies for missing that; I should stay off the forums late at night :p 
I say OP should (if in their budget) simply buy something like a Crucial M4 64GB; however, if that doesn't fit the budget, I would drop that 7970 GHz down to the a Gigabyte Windforce GTX 770, and put that extra money towards the SSD.
Once again, my apologies for not catching that.
a b 4 Gaming
July 5, 2013 10:14:52 AM

id say at least a 128gb or 256 SSD is needed. you also shoot yourself in the foot when having such a small SSD. it leaves no room for anything
a b 4 Gaming
July 5, 2013 10:38:13 AM

TheBigTroll said:
id say at least a 128gb or 256 SSD is needed. you also shoot yourself in the foot when having such a small SSD. it leaves no room for anything


However, it's easy to get a 64GB now and put the OS on it, and then buy a larger one later. What you cannot do is buy the SSD (because it's more expensive) after the rest of the computer, as the Windows is OEM so you will not be able to put it onto the SSD. I say get a 64GB SSD boot drive now, and the next upgrade should be a larger, perhaps 256GB SSD.
a b 4 Gaming
July 5, 2013 12:01:43 PM

actually, no. you can move windows from a hard drive to a ssd but then you will have to deal with all the repartitioning and file transfering work

a adata 128gb SSD is the same price as your m4 64gb. there is no reason to get the 64gb drive
a b 4 Gaming
July 5, 2013 12:03:55 PM

TheBigTroll said:
actually, no. you can move windows from a hard drive to a ssd but then you will have to deal with all the repartitioning and file transfering work

a adata 128gb SSD is the same price as your m4 64gb. there is no reason to get the 64gb drive


Okay. That sounds good :) 
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