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July 5, 2013 12:27:04 PM

Do i need any extra power for this setup?
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ OR http://pcpartpicker.com/p/18B4L
IMPORTANT NOTES: The mouse should actually be a Razer Naga Hex League of Legends edition mouse. And the CPU should be the i7-4970X. In addition, the titans should each be EVGA EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN SuperClocked 6GB GDDR5 384bit, Dual-Link DVI-I, DVI-D, HDMI,DP, SLI Ready Graphics Card Graphics Cards 06G-P4-2791-KR. Note URL for 900D:http://www.microcenter.com/product/409098/Obsidian_Seri... Add: Asus R.O.G Vulcan Anc Noise Cancelling Gaming Headset $135. PCI-E Express 16 x Riser Flexible Cable (five of them) $25. Norton 360 2013 1 user/3 PCs/3 years $180. Nvidia 3D Vision 2 Wireless glasses kit $138. Alienhead chrome red wallpaper $0. For mom: OS X Snow Leopard 10.6, upgrade to 10.8 and then to OS X Mavericks $40 (note, not included in price). CPU cooler should be http://www.microcenter.com/product/411309/H220_CPU_Cool... PSU should be double TPX-1475M $600. Silverstone Tek 90 Degree SATA III Cable with Non-Scratch Locking Mechanism (CP08) (six) $36. Add2PSU $20. For Shen( for building it) (not included in price) Corsair Vengeance 8 GB ( 2 x 4 GB ) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) 240-Pin DDR3 Memory Kit for Core i3, i5, i7 and Platforms SDRAM CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9. http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=9070-99-A0... $25. Cat5e cable (two) $10. HDMI Cable (two) $20. Linux Mint $0. 2.5 inch to 3.5 inch hdd/ssd bay adapter $15.

Laing D5 ($100) (2)

Koolance 3x140mm 30-FPI Radiator ($125) (2)

Aquacomputer Aquabox Professional 5.25” Bay Reservoir- Black Delrin ($60) (2)

XSPC Razor GTX Titan Full Coverage VGA Block- Reference Design w/Backplate and Barb ($156) (4) (total:474)

CPU-380I ($75) (1)

Koolance RAM-33 Ram Liquid Block - (Single DDR/DDR2/DDR3/SD) [no nozzles] ($45) (8) (total:$360)

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July 5, 2013 2:10:23 PM

What exactly is your question...? And for the case, if you can afford it, go with the Silverstone TJ11; best WC case there is.
July 5, 2013 4:47:45 PM

dannyboy2233 said:
What exactly is your question...? And for the case, if you can afford it, go with the Silverstone TJ11; best WC case there is.

i have two 1475 w power supplies, do i need more power? And i decided against the tj11 because of the lack of space
(im thinking of a caselabs, are they bigger?)
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July 5, 2013 9:28:19 PM

sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
What exactly is your question...? And for the case, if you can afford it, go with the Silverstone TJ11; best WC case there is.

i have two 1475 w power supplies, do i need more power? And i decided against the tj11 because of the lack of space
(im thinking of a caselabs, are they bigger?)


The TJ11 is absolutely enormous! It's the best case for WC. Also, WCing does not take any more power than regular; perhaps only 50W max for the pump. Two 1400W PSUs is still pretty overkill, but I guess it's easy to play it safe. If you'e WCing, you will probably need at least 3x360mm and 1x480mm radiators, if not more. I recommend as much cooling as you can possibly fit.
July 5, 2013 11:34:43 PM

dannyboy2233 said:
sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
What exactly is your question...? And for the case, if you can afford it, go with the Silverstone TJ11; best WC case there is.

i have two 1475 w power supplies, do i need more power? And i decided against the tj11 because of the lack of space
(im thinking of a caselabs, are they bigger?)

can u recommend me the BIGGEST and BEST case that caselacs offers, then compare it to the 900d and tj11
The TJ11 is absolutely enormous! It's the best case for WC. Also, WCing does not take any more power than regular; perhaps only 50W max for the pump. Two 1400W PSUs is still pretty overkill, but I guess it's easy to play it safe. If you'e WCing, you will probably need at least 3x360mm and 1x480mm radiators, if not more. I recommend as much cooling as you can possibly fit.


July 6, 2013 11:19:45 AM

sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
What exactly is your question...? And for the case, if you can afford it, go with the Silverstone TJ11; best WC case there is.

i have two 1475 w power supplies, do i need more power? And i decided against the tj11 because of the lack of space
(im thinking of a caselabs, are they bigger?)

can u recommend me the BIGGEST and BEST case that caselacs offers, then compare it to the 900d and tj11
The TJ11 is absolutely enormous! It's the best case for WC. Also, WCing does not take any more power than regular; perhaps only 50W max for the pump. Two 1400W PSUs is still pretty overkill, but I guess it's easy to play it safe. If you'e WCing, you will probably need at least 3x360mm and 1x480mm radiators, if not more. I recommend as much cooling as you can possibly fit.




The Silverstone: 25.87" x 8.82" x 25.28"
The Caselabs STH10: 32.25"H x 26.56"D x 11.25"W
The Caselabs case has support for quad-PSU as well as tri-480mm radiator; this case should be perfect for your dual-PSUs, and if you raelly wanna OC all the GPUs and CPU (Which you should) then the tri-rads should be perfect. Overall, both are great cases, and you'd be well-off with either; however, the Caselabs case is a bit ugly, but it performs better. As I said, both will perform great; if you need max performance, get the STH10; if you want looks as well, go for the TJ11.
Neither of these cases can be compared to the 900D, as they are in a completely different range.
July 6, 2013 11:39:24 AM

dannyboy2233 said:
sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
What exactly is your question...? And for the case, if you can afford it, go with the Silverstone TJ11; best WC case there is.

i have two 1475 w power supplies, do i need more power? And i decided against the tj11 because of the lack of space
(im thinking of a caselabs, are they bigger?)

can u recommend me the BIGGEST and BEST case that caselacs offers, then compare it to the 900d and tj11
The TJ11 is absolutely enormous! It's the best case for WC. Also, WCing does not take any more power than regular; perhaps only 50W max for the pump. Two 1400W PSUs is still pretty overkill, but I guess it's easy to play it safe. If you'e WCing, you will probably need at least 3x360mm and 1x480mm radiators, if not more. I recommend as much cooling as you can possibly fit.




The Silverstone: 25.87" x 8.82" x 25.28"
The Caselabs STH10: 32.25"H x 26.56"D x 11.25"W
The Caselabs case has support for quad-PSU as well as tri-480mm radiator; this case should be perfect for your dual-PSUs, and if you raelly wanna OC all the GPUs and CPU (Which you should) then the tri-rads should be perfect. Overall, both are great cases, and you'd be well-off with either; however, the Caselabs case is a bit ugly, but it performs better. As I said, both will perform great; if you need max performance, get the STH10; if you want looks as well, go for the TJ11.
Neither of these cases can be compared to the 900D, as they are in a completely different range.

OH!!!! WOW! THE CASELABS IS HUGE!!!!!!!!! OK! OK! OK! OK! OK! OK! QUAD PSU SUPPOR????!!!! A DREAM COME TRUE!!!! OH, one questioin, does the tj11 or the tj11bw have dual psu support? AND, do i have to ASSEMBLE the caselabs?
July 6, 2013 11:47:59 AM

sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
What exactly is your question...? And for the case, if you can afford it, go with the Silverstone TJ11; best WC case there is.

i have two 1475 w power supplies, do i need more power? And i decided against the tj11 because of the lack of space
(im thinking of a caselabs, are they bigger?)

can u recommend me the BIGGEST and BEST case that caselacs offers, then compare it to the 900d and tj11
The TJ11 is absolutely enormous! It's the best case for WC. Also, WCing does not take any more power than regular; perhaps only 50W max for the pump. Two 1400W PSUs is still pretty overkill, but I guess it's easy to play it safe. If you'e WCing, you will probably need at least 3x360mm and 1x480mm radiators, if not more. I recommend as much cooling as you can possibly fit.




sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
What exactly is your question...? And for the case, if you can afford it, go with the Silverstone TJ11; best WC case there is.

i have two 1475 w power supplies, do i need more power? And i decided against the tj11 because of the lack of space
(im thinking of a caselabs, are they bigger?)

can u recommend me the BIGGEST and BEST case that caselacs offers, then compare it to the 900d and tj11
The TJ11 is absolutely enormous! It's the best case for WC. Also, WCing does not take any more power than regular; perhaps only 50W max for the pump. Two 1400W PSUs is still pretty overkill, but I guess it's easy to play it safe. If you'e WCing, you will probably need at least 3x360mm and 1x480mm radiators, if not more. I recommend as much cooling as you can possibly fit.




The Silverstone: 25.87" x 8.82" x 25.28"
The Caselabs STH10: 32.25"H x 26.56"D x 11.25"W
The Caselabs case has support for quad-PSU as well as tri-480mm radiator; this case should be perfect for your dual-PSUs, and if you raelly wanna OC all the GPUs and CPU (Which you should) then the tri-rads should be perfect. Overall, both are great cases, and you'd be well-off with either; however, the Caselabs case is a bit ugly, but it performs better. As I said, both will perform great; if you need max performance, get the STH10; if you want looks as well, go for the TJ11.
Neither of these cases can be compared to the 900D, as they are in a completely different range.

OH!!!! WOW! THE CASELABS IS HUGE!!!!!!!!! OK! OK! OK! OK! OK! OK! QUAD PSU SUPPOR????!!!! A DREAM COME TRUE!!!! OH, one questioin, does the tj11 or the tj11bw have dual psu support? AND, do i have to ASSEMBLE the caselabs?


The TJ11 has dual-PSU, and the STH10 has quad-PSU. First of all, you will probably need three 480mm rads to cool off everything you've got, and probably more than pump (in fact, probably two loops). And yes, you do have to assemble it... If you're not that kind of guy, then that may be a deal-breaker.
July 6, 2013 12:54:53 PM

dannyboy2233 said:
sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
What exactly is your question...? And for the case, if you can afford it, go with the Silverstone TJ11; best WC case there is.

i have two 1475 w power supplies, do i need more power? And i decided against the tj11 because of the lack of space
(im thinking of a caselabs, are they bigger?)

can u recommend me the BIGGEST and BEST case that caselacs offers, then compare it to the 900d and tj11
The TJ11 is absolutely enormous! It's the best case for WC. Also, WCing does not take any more power than regular; perhaps only 50W max for the pump. Two 1400W PSUs is still pretty overkill, but I guess it's easy to play it safe. If you'e WCing, you will probably need at least 3x360mm and 1x480mm radiators, if not more. I recommend as much cooling as you can possibly fit.




sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
What exactly is your question...? And for the case, if you can afford it, go with the Silverstone TJ11; best WC case there is.

i have two 1475 w power supplies, do i need more power? And i decided against the tj11 because of the lack of space
(im thinking of a caselabs, are they bigger?)

can u recommend me the BIGGEST and BEST case that caselacs offers, then compare it to the 900d and tj11
The TJ11 is absolutely enormous! It's the best case for WC. Also, WCing does not take any more power than regular; perhaps only 50W max for the pump. Two 1400W PSUs is still pretty overkill, but I guess it's easy to play it safe. If you'e WCing, you will probably need at least 3x360mm and 1x480mm radiators, if not more. I recommend as much cooling as you can possibly fit.




The Silverstone: 25.87" x 8.82" x 25.28"
The Caselabs STH10: 32.25"H x 26.56"D x 11.25"W
The Caselabs case has support for quad-PSU as well as tri-480mm radiator; this case should be perfect for your dual-PSUs, and if you raelly wanna OC all the GPUs and CPU (Which you should) then the tri-rads should be perfect. Overall, both are great cases, and you'd be well-off with either; however, the Caselabs case is a bit ugly, but it performs better. As I said, both will perform great; if you need max performance, get the STH10; if you want looks as well, go for the TJ11.
Neither of these cases can be compared to the 900D, as they are in a completely different range.

OH!!!! WOW! THE CASELABS IS HUGE!!!!!!!!! OK! OK! OK! OK! OK! OK! QUAD PSU SUPPOR????!!!! A DREAM COME TRUE!!!! OH, one questioin, does the tj11 or the tj11bw have dual psu support? AND, do i have to ASSEMBLE the caselabs?


The TJ11 has dual-PSU, and the STH10 has quad-PSU. First of all, you will probably need three 480mm rads to cool off everything you've got, and probably more than pump (in fact, probably two loops). And yes, you do have to assemble it... If you're not that kind of guy, then that may be a deal-breaker.

actually, my friend is assembling it for me ( i have to pay him 16 gb ram though) i already HAVE two loops ( 3x 140mm and 4x120mm)
July 6, 2013 2:55:08 PM

sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
What exactly is your question...? And for the case, if you can afford it, go with the Silverstone TJ11; best WC case there is.

i have two 1475 w power supplies, do i need more power? And i decided against the tj11 because of the lack of space
(im thinking of a caselabs, are they bigger?)

can u recommend me the BIGGEST and BEST case that caselacs offers, then compare it to the 900d and tj11
The TJ11 is absolutely enormous! It's the best case for WC. Also, WCing does not take any more power than regular; perhaps only 50W max for the pump. Two 1400W PSUs is still pretty overkill, but I guess it's easy to play it safe. If you'e WCing, you will probably need at least 3x360mm and 1x480mm radiators, if not more. I recommend as much cooling as you can possibly fit.




sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
What exactly is your question...? And for the case, if you can afford it, go with the Silverstone TJ11; best WC case there is.

i have two 1475 w power supplies, do i need more power? And i decided against the tj11 because of the lack of space
(im thinking of a caselabs, are they bigger?)

can u recommend me the BIGGEST and BEST case that caselacs offers, then compare it to the 900d and tj11
The TJ11 is absolutely enormous! It's the best case for WC. Also, WCing does not take any more power than regular; perhaps only 50W max for the pump. Two 1400W PSUs is still pretty overkill, but I guess it's easy to play it safe. If you'e WCing, you will probably need at least 3x360mm and 1x480mm radiators, if not more. I recommend as much cooling as you can possibly fit.




The Silverstone: 25.87" x 8.82" x 25.28"
The Caselabs STH10: 32.25"H x 26.56"D x 11.25"W
The Caselabs case has support for quad-PSU as well as tri-480mm radiator; this case should be perfect for your dual-PSUs, and if you raelly wanna OC all the GPUs and CPU (Which you should) then the tri-rads should be perfect. Overall, both are great cases, and you'd be well-off with either; however, the Caselabs case is a bit ugly, but it performs better. As I said, both will perform great; if you need max performance, get the STH10; if you want looks as well, go for the TJ11.
Neither of these cases can be compared to the 900D, as they are in a completely different range.

OH!!!! WOW! THE CASELABS IS HUGE!!!!!!!!! OK! OK! OK! OK! OK! OK! QUAD PSU SUPPOR????!!!! A DREAM COME TRUE!!!! OH, one questioin, does the tj11 or the tj11bw have dual psu support? AND, do i have to ASSEMBLE the caselabs?


The TJ11 has dual-PSU, and the STH10 has quad-PSU. First of all, you will probably need three 480mm rads to cool off everything you've got, and probably more than pump (in fact, probably two loops). And yes, you do have to assemble it... If you're not that kind of guy, then that may be a deal-breaker.

actually, my friend is assembling it for me ( i have to pay him 16 gb ram though) i already HAVE two loops ( 3x 140mm and 4x120mm)


No... A loop is different from a radiator. Those things that you just listed are radiators. Those two could technically go in one loop. The concept of two loops is that you have two pumps, two reservoirs, etc. for the purpose of less-restricted waterflow. Also, I think that you will have to go 3x420 or at least 3x360 if you want your system to be moderately quiet, as well as perform well.
What I recommend that you do is have perhaps one 3x120mm rad and a 4x120mm rad in one loop (for the GPUs), and then one 4x120mm rad for the CPU, motherboard, RAM, etc. This way, you have a ton of cooling for the Titans (all of which is necessary), as well as some insane cooling for everything else.
July 6, 2013 9:09:50 PM

nono, if you didnt notice, i HAVE TWO laing d5's and two reservoirs, thats because im making two loops the 4x120mm for the titans and the 3x140mm for ram and cpu
July 6, 2013 11:43:05 PM

sixsamuraisoldier said:
nono, if you didnt notice, i HAVE TWO laing d5's and two reservoirs, thats because im making two loops the 4x120mm for the titans and the 3x140mm for ram and cpu


Ahhhh, okay. My bad. Sorry :p  In that case, you should be fine... However, 4x120mm will most be likely be insufficient for quad-Titans. The total TDP (without OC) of those cards is about 1000W. A 360mm rad with high-performance fans at 2700RPM will barely dissipate 550W. I guarantee you that a 4x120mm will not be sufficient. You will need probably one more, or perhaps a 3x120/3x140mm to go with it.
As for the 3x140 for the CPU and motherboard, that should work; probably around 600W dissipated, which will be more than enough.
Got any more questions? :) 
July 6, 2013 11:51:07 PM

dannyboy2233 said:
sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
What exactly is your question...? And for the case, if you can afford it, go with the Silverstone TJ11; best WC case there is.

i have two 1475 w power supplies, do i need more power? And i decided against the tj11 because of the lack of space
(im thinking of a caselabs, are they bigger?)


The TJ11 is absolutely enormous! It's the best case for WC. Also, WCing does not take any more power than regular; perhaps only 50W max for the pump. Two 1400W PSUs is still pretty overkill, but I guess it's easy to play it safe. If you'e WCing, you will probably need at least 3x360mm and 1x480mm radiators, if not more. I recommend as much cooling as you can possibly fit.


I think in most situations the TJ11 needs a zoning variance. :lol: 

But really - a single 1400W is way overkill, two is flat out ridiculous.

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July 6, 2013 11:52:57 PM
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g-unit1111 said:
dannyboy2233 said:
sixsamuraisoldier said:
dannyboy2233 said:
What exactly is your question...? And for the case, if you can afford it, go with the Silverstone TJ11; best WC case there is.

i have two 1475 w power supplies, do i need more power? And i decided against the tj11 because of the lack of space
(im thinking of a caselabs, are they bigger?)


The TJ11 is absolutely enormous! It's the best case for WC. Also, WCing does not take any more power than regular; perhaps only 50W max for the pump. Two 1400W PSUs is still pretty overkill, but I guess it's easy to play it safe. If you'e WCing, you will probably need at least 3x360mm and 1x480mm radiators, if not more. I recommend as much cooling as you can possibly fit.


I think in most situations the TJ11 needs a zoning variance. :lol: 

But really - a single 1400W is way overkill, two is flat out ridiculous.


Not when you're running quad Titans, as well as a 3970x. Plus, the Titans are all extremely low TDP cards, and if OP ever replaces the cards, even an extra 50W TDP per card will mean an extra 200W.
Yes, of course it is overkill; but in a build that costs as much as a small car, who's really counting? What's the extra $200?
July 7, 2013 11:18:58 AM

Thanks for the B.A.! :) 
July 8, 2013 10:35:54 AM

dannyboy2233 said:

Not when you're running quad Titans, as well as a 3970x. Plus, the Titans are all extremely low TDP cards, and if OP ever replaces the cards, even an extra 50W TDP per card will mean an extra 200W.


Quad Titans? Are there even drivers out there that would support such a configuration? :??: 

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Yes, of course it is overkill; but in a build that costs as much as a small car, who's really counting? What's the extra $200?


Good point! :lol: 
July 8, 2013 4:12:04 PM

g-unit1111 said:
dannyboy2233 said:

Not when you're running quad Titans, as well as a 3970x. Plus, the Titans are all extremely low TDP cards, and if OP ever replaces the cards, even an extra 50W TDP per card will mean an extra 200W.


Quad Titans? Are there even drivers out there that would support such a configuration? :??: 

Quote:
Yes, of course it is overkill; but in a build that costs as much as a small car, who's really counting? What's the extra $200?


Good point! :lol: 


Haha ;)  and as to the first part; I'm not entirely sure. I'm sure it EXISTS, but whether you would want to use it is probably completely speculative, as I don't know many people who use quad-SLI drivers. :p 
July 8, 2013 5:13:03 PM

dannyboy2233 said:


Haha ;)  and as to the first part; I'm not entirely sure. I'm sure it EXISTS, but whether you would want to use it is probably completely speculative, as I don't know many people who use quad-SLI drivers. :p 


And I wonder how many of the top scores on 3DMark are fabricated or if people program their own drivers. You'd have to have an extremely powerful rig to get over 44000.
July 8, 2013 5:15:11 PM

g-unit1111 said:
dannyboy2233 said:


Haha ;)  and as to the first part; I'm not entirely sure. I'm sure it EXISTS, but whether you would want to use it is probably completely speculative, as I don't know many people who use quad-SLI drivers. :p 


And I wonder how many of the top scores on 3DMark are fabricated or if people program their own drivers. You'd have to have an extremely powerful rig to get over 44000.


Yeah that's super true... Never thought about that before :p  Always speculatively, but I've never actually thought about people programming their own drivers IRL...
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