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July 6, 2013 9:34:40 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: July

Budget Range: $~2500 (more for a significant up-tick in performance)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: CS6 InDesign; CS6 AfterEffects; Gaming - BF3-4

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website for Parts: Newegg.com (but open to others as well)

Location:California, but buying Online exclusively (Jerry needs no more of my money to waste)

Parts Preferences: Quality and dependability

Overclocking: Maybe (I understand it's not as scary as before, but one thing at a time here)

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe if there are real advantages

Here's what I've thrown together:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1dPif

Looking for advice about compatibility issues, better performance if feasible, and better value if I'm "out of balance".

I've seen recommendations for multiple SSDs and Hard drives useful for editing...is there really much pay-off?

Am I better off with SLI/Crossfire? 2 - 650ti cards vs 770 for example?

Using a Samsung SyncMaster P2770. Also have Samsung 2253.

Thanks in advance. (looking forward to tweaking this as needed)
Any other advice gladly considered.


July 6, 2013 9:54:05 AM

check your build...it's all messed up....look at your RAM
July 6, 2013 10:13:48 AM

You do not need that much power. No one really needs that much power. This build would be almost equivalent in performance with better graphics performance. And almost same processing power. Please, do not waste money for no reason.

You can see how the two CPU's compare at http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4770K-vs-Intel-Co...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($5.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($239.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-140 66.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($16.79 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2033.64
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-06 13:12 EDT-0400)
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July 6, 2013 10:29:02 AM

just don't get 2 GPUs. One good 1 is enuf.
July 6, 2013 11:05:44 AM

RobertDiffin said:
Approximate Purchase Date: July

Budget Range: $~2500 (more for a significant up-tick in performance)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: CS6 InDesign; CS6 AfterEffects; Gaming - BF3-4

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website for Parts: Newegg.com (but open to others as well)

Location:California, but buying Online exclusively (Jerry needs no more of my money to waste)

Parts Preferences: Quality and dependability

Overclocking: Maybe (I understand it's not as scary as before, but one thing at a time here)

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe if there are real advantages

Here's what I've thrown together:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1dPif

Looking for advice about compatibility issues, better performance if feasible, and better value if I'm "out of balance".

I've seen recommendations for multiple SSDs and Hard drives useful for editing...is there really much pay-off?

Am I better off with SLI/Crossfire? 2 - 650ti cards vs 770 for example?

Using a Samsung SyncMaster P2770. Also have Samsung 2253.

Thanks in advance. (looking forward to tweaking this as needed)
Any other advice gladly considered.




Sangeet Khatri said:
You do not need that much power. No one really needs that much power. This build would be almost equivalent in performance with better graphics performance. And almost same processing power. Please, do not waste money for no reason.

You can see how the two CPU's compare at http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4770K-vs-Intel-Co...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($5.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($239.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSR2-140 66.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($16.79 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2033.64
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-06 13:12 EDT-0400)


Thanks for the advice.
A few questions:
1. I chose MSI Board from part picker only because it was the only one capable of 64gb of ram. Are there better for that kind of money?
2. So when/what are the criteria some have for multiple GPUs? (Are they merely crunching numbers with no real-world improvement?)
3. Any "best" videos for the build process?
4. Same for over clocking (but I've seen there's little need/improvement on the 4770k in OCing)

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July 6, 2013 11:38:12 AM
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Thanks for the advice.
A few questions:
1. I chose MSI Board from part picker only because it was the only one capable of 64gb of ram. Are there better for that kind of money?
2. So when/what are the criteria some have for multiple GPUs? (Are they merely crunching numbers with no real-world improvement?)
3. Any "best" videos for the build process?
4. Same for over clocking (but I've seen there's little need/improvement on the 4770k in OCing)


1. There is no real advantage for having 32GB over 16GB, let alone 64GB. Even professionals do not ever utilize more than 32GB's of RAM. 32GB's should be enough for even the most daunting tasks (belive me 16GB is the almost everytime enough.) . But it is never bad to have extra RAM available but it does not have any gains in performance.


2. Literally, having multiple GPUs is not at all useful. There are quite a lot issues when using multiple GPUs. And it is never an option for the best Single GPU solution. That is why i suggested the 780 which is the most powerful Single GPU Card (Only a bit inferior than the Titan, but nothing significant.) . Multiple GPU's come in handy only when you want to upgrade your PC, so you just drop in an extra GPU and put them in SLI or Crossfire, so that you can make the rig more up to date. But for a new build, there is no point in doing SLI.


3. Yeah, there are quite a lot. have a look at this 3 part guide from Duncan33303, it describes almost everything very easily : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPHCBWayEsY

But since this computer you are building is very costly, hence i do not recommend you to build it yourself, just because this one costs a lot. You do not want to go wrong with the 2000 dollar maching, do you? Hence it is better to let someone else who is experienced in this stuff to build it for you. You can later try on a budget PC if you want to learn on how to build a PC. But for such an expensive build i would not recommend it building it yourself for the first time. You know what i mean.


4. You won't need to overclock just now. But anyways since i do not have experience with overclocking, hence i do not believe i am the right person who you wan't to know how to overclock. I like to buy "non K" CPUs and run them at stock speeds, just because i do not see any point in overclocking. I have my opinion, but a lot of people do prefer overclocking. So, you might want to ask that question from someone else. From someone who is actually into overclocking. I am not the right person to answer this.

I hope this helped you. If you like my answer then do not forget to select it as the best answer as it might help me in the forums and i would really appreciate it.
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