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July 6, 2013 12:53:11 PM

Which one of this sets would be the best for gaming only?

I don't intend to upgrade for many years.

Need the set that can provide me the most fps in general since I play all types of games (mostly new ones).

I want a build to handle future games at playable fps even if I have to lower the graphics quality to the minimum. I just want to have playable fps.

Which one of these would give me the best gaming performance for now and for the future?

- i5-3470 + gtx760

- OC'ed i5-3570k + gtx650ti/hd7850 1GB (maybe club3d 2GB one)

- not-OC'ed i5-3570k + hd7870xt

- OC'ed fx6300 + gtx760

- not-OC'ed fx6300 + gtx660ti/hd7950

- OC'ed fx8350 + hd7850

- not-OC'ed fx8350 + hd7870xt

Don't say things like "you should save money and buy 3570k and hd7950 instead"

Thanks!

PS: When I say OC'ed is when it has a proper overclocking mobo and cooling. Not OC'ed has budget mobo and has no cooling.

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July 6, 2013 1:01:19 PM

I would say the first one, but why Ivy Bridge instead of Haswell?
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July 6, 2013 1:05:17 PM

Fox_ said:
I would say the first one, but why Ivy Bridge instead of Haswell?

The price equivalent to the ivy bridge ones have lower performance.

For example i5 3470 is better than i5 4430, both 175€

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July 6, 2013 1:14:23 PM

goncalopoeiras said:
Fox_ said:
I would say the first one, but why Ivy Bridge instead of Haswell?

The price equivalent to the ivy bridge ones have lower performance.

For example i5 3470 is better than i5 4430, both 175€


Oh, it's just not a great idea trying to be future proof with a year-old cpu in my opinion, but in this case it makes sense I suppose. So I still say first option, as the main part of gaming is the graphics card and the 760 is a great one for the price.

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July 6, 2013 1:23:08 PM

avilash98 said:
i dont think so..thats why i said i5 and gtx 770


You said i7, and he obviously cares about money and that wasn't even an option.
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July 6, 2013 1:24:14 PM

avilash98 said:
exactly.

haswell really dosent matter..and since u dont care about bucks... go for the undebated i7 3770k.
a i7 3G is >>>>> i5 4G.
since a new generation is released everyone is just mad about it...and even if ivy runs hot, its d best gaming pro platform ever released.


Dude... what are you smoking? There's absolutely no reason to buy an i7-3770k for gaming. It performs EXACTLY the same as an i5-3570k does, but costs $100 more.

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July 6, 2013 1:24:35 PM

avilash98 said:
exactly.

haswell really dosent matter..and since u dont care about bucks... go for the undebated i7 3770k.
a i7 3G is >>>>> i5 4G.
since a new generation is released everyone is just mad about it...and even if ivy runs hot, its d best gaming pro platform ever released.

I don't remember saying i7 was an option and I don't remember saying I dont care about bucks.
Just choose one of those please, they are all the same price.

Fox_ said:
goncalopoeiras said:
Fox_ said:
I would say the first one, but why Ivy Bridge instead of Haswell?

The price equivalent to the ivy bridge ones have lower performance.

For example i5 3470 is better than i5 4430, both 175€


Oh, it's just not a great idea trying to be future proof with a year-old cpu in my opinion, but in this case it makes sense I suppose. So I still say first option, as the main part of gaming is the graphics card and the 760 is a great one for the price.


All the sets are the same price so just choose the best in gaming performance. And I need this fast, I want to order the parts today.

Thanks
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July 6, 2013 1:24:59 PM

goncalopoeiras said:
Which one of this sets would be the best for gaming only?

I don't intend to upgrade for many years.

Need the set that can provide me the most fps in general since I play all types of games (mostly new ones).

I want a build to handle future games at playable fps even if I have to lower the graphics quality to the minimum. I just want to have playable fps.

Which one of these would give me the best gaming performance for now and for the future?

- i5-3470 + gtx760

- OC'ed i5-3570k + gtx650ti/hd7850 1GB (maybe club3d 2GB one)

- not-OC'ed i5-3570k + hd7870xt

- OC'ed fx6300 + gtx760

- not-OC'ed fx6300 + gtx660ti/hd7950

- OC'ed fx8350 + hd7850

- not-OC'ed fx8350 + hd7870xt

Don't say things like "you should save money and buy 3570k and hd7950 instead"

Thanks!

PS: When I say OC'ed is when it has a proper overclocking mobo and cooling. Not OC'ed has budget mobo and has no cooling.


Why are you going with Ivy over haswell?


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July 6, 2013 1:27:52 PM

avilash98 said:
i dont think so..thats why i said i5 and gtx 770

You didnt said i5 and I didnt even write nothing about 770.

Fox_ said:
avilash98 said:
i dont think so..thats why i said i5 and gtx 770


You said i7, and he obviously cares about money and that wasn't even an option.

Exactly!

DarkSable said:
avilash98 said:
exactly.

haswell really dosent matter..and since u dont care about bucks... go for the undebated i7 3770k.
a i7 3G is >>>>> i5 4G.
since a new generation is released everyone is just mad about it...and even if ivy runs hot, its d best gaming pro platform ever released.


Dude... what are you smoking? There's absolutely no reason to buy an i7-3770k for gaming. It performs EXACTLY the same as an i5-3570k does, but costs $100 more.


So which one of those options do you think is better?

Really need this today guys. Thanks

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July 6, 2013 1:28:00 PM

goncalopoeiras said:
avilash98 said:
exactly.

haswell really dosent matter..and since u dont care about bucks... go for the undebated i7 3770k.
a i7 3G is >>>>> i5 4G.
since a new generation is released everyone is just mad about it...and even if ivy runs hot, its d best gaming pro platform ever released.

I don't remember saying i7 was an option and I don't remember saying I dont care about bucks.
Just choose one of those please, they are all the same price.

Fox_ said:
goncalopoeiras said:
Fox_ said:
I would say the first one, but why Ivy Bridge instead of Haswell?

The price equivalent to the ivy bridge ones have lower performance.

For example i5 3470 is better than i5 4430, both 175€


Oh, it's just not a great idea trying to be future proof with a year-old cpu in my opinion, but in this case it makes sense I suppose. So I still say first option, as the main part of gaming is the graphics card and the 760 is a great one for the price.


All the sets are the same price so just choose the best in gaming performance. And I need this fast, I want to order the parts today.

Thanks


The i5 and GTX 760 would be best for gaming.
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July 6, 2013 1:31:54 PM

Intel God said:
goncalopoeiras said:
Which one of this sets would be the best for gaming only?

I don't intend to upgrade for many years.

Need the set that can provide me the most fps in general since I play all types of games (mostly new ones).

I want a build to handle future games at playable fps even if I have to lower the graphics quality to the minimum. I just want to have playable fps.

Which one of these would give me the best gaming performance for now and for the future?

- i5-3470 + gtx760

- OC'ed i5-3570k + gtx650ti/hd7850 1GB (maybe club3d 2GB one)

- not-OC'ed i5-3570k + hd7870xt

- OC'ed fx6300 + gtx760

- not-OC'ed fx6300 + gtx660ti/hd7950

- OC'ed fx8350 + hd7850

- not-OC'ed fx8350 + hd7870xt

Don't say things like "you should save money and buy 3570k and hd7950 instead"

Thanks!

PS: When I say OC'ed is when it has a proper overclocking mobo and cooling. Not OC'ed has budget mobo and has no cooling.


Why are you going with Ivy over haswell?



Because its more expensive and I would have to get a cheaper gpu, like a gtx 650. I don't think its better.

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July 6, 2013 1:32:46 PM

Fox_ said:
goncalopoeiras said:
avilash98 said:
exactly.

haswell really dosent matter..and since u dont care about bucks... go for the undebated i7 3770k.
a i7 3G is >>>>> i5 4G.
since a new generation is released everyone is just mad about it...and even if ivy runs hot, its d best gaming pro platform ever released.

I don't remember saying i7 was an option and I don't remember saying I dont care about bucks.
Just choose one of those please, they are all the same price.

Fox_ said:
goncalopoeiras said:
Fox_ said:
I would say the first one, but why Ivy Bridge instead of Haswell?

The price equivalent to the ivy bridge ones have lower performance.

For example i5 3470 is better than i5 4430, both 175€


Oh, it's just not a great idea trying to be future proof with a year-old cpu in my opinion, but in this case it makes sense I suppose. So I still say first option, as the main part of gaming is the graphics card and the 760 is a great one for the price.


All the sets are the same price so just choose the best in gaming performance. And I need this fast, I want to order the parts today.

Thanks


The i5 and GTX 760 would be best for gaming.

Thanks

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July 6, 2013 1:33:48 PM

avilash98 said:
DATS D CHOICE U MAKE...u wanna be future proof den, i5 wont help...well 4570 may do so...but later i am sure dat having an i7 would have helped u.

Why buy an i7 and then have a cheaper gpu? Is that future proof?

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July 6, 2013 1:35:04 PM

Do I get best answer? :D 
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July 6, 2013 1:37:54 PM

goncalopoeiras said:
avilash98 said:
DATS D CHOICE U MAKE...u wanna be future proof den, i5 wont help...well 4570 may do so...but later i am sure dat having an i7 would have helped u.

Why buy an i7 and then have a cheaper gpu? Is that future proof?



Works for me :lol: 
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July 6, 2013 1:39:24 PM

avilash98 said:
dont be impatient dude...when buying dese things..u must be patient, think and move.

get a i5 3570k and 770 if possible..if not 760 is just fine.
and get ASUS DCIIOC version. cooling makes ur system lifelong.

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Don't say things like "you should save money and buy 3570k and hd7950 instead"

I even bolded it.

I'm on a budget dude, why don't you guys just say one of those sets I've put?
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July 6, 2013 1:42:11 PM

I second the vote for the i5 and 760. That'll give you the best performance for the longest amount of time.
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July 6, 2013 1:44:00 PM

Fox_ said:
Do I get best answer? :D 

Probably yes, since no one answers the question. :) 

Intel God said:
goncalopoeiras said:
avilash98 said:
DATS D CHOICE U MAKE...u wanna be future proof den, i5 wont help...well 4570 may do so...but later i am sure dat having an i7 would have helped u.

Why buy an i7 and then have a cheaper gpu? Is that future proof?



Works for me :lol: 

I said I don't intend on upgrading my build for many years and since games are more gpu intensive I don't think that would be a good idea. Can you just choose from one of those sets?

avilash98 said:
and i dont prefer u to go wid amd cpu but intel cpu and amd gpu.
i am recently hearing a lot of issues about amd CPUs

I don't even understand what you write. But I think you were trying to say to go intel over amd.
Thanks for the info. But can you just choose one of the sets?

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July 6, 2013 1:45:09 PM

Overclocked 6300/760 gets my vote.
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July 6, 2013 1:46:45 PM

DarkSable said:
I second the vote for the i5 and 760. That'll give you the best performance for the longest amount of time.

Thanks. i5+760 is winning.

avilash98 said:
d problem is u guys dont have a decent budget..and dream of gaming...
my final answer,
i5 3570k and 760gtx.
if u wanna play wid decent graphics den go for it..if not den go or a amd cpu(for cheap guys) and a bottlenecked gpu

WHY DON'T YOU JUST CHOOSE ONE OF THOSE SETS?

I don't have the money to buy i5 3570k + gtx760, so I didn't included it into option.

What don't you get from that?

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July 6, 2013 1:48:19 PM

Intel God said:
Overclocked 6300/760 gets my vote.

+1 for oc 6300+760

avilash98 said:
from d sets ??..lol.

DEFINITELY D FIRST ONE.

+1 for i5+760

i5+760 has 3 votes
oc'ed 6300+760 has 1 vote

Thanks guys

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July 6, 2013 1:49:19 PM

OP dont waste your money on a locked processor or socket 1155. If you cant afford a 4670K/Z87 board the 6300/970 UD3 would be a great combo
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July 6, 2013 1:51:30 PM

avilash98 said:
DEN DO A PART TIME JOB, SAVE SOME BUCKS, BUY YOUR BABY.
DONE.

Before he does that, you go to school.
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July 6, 2013 1:54:18 PM

avilash98 said:
DEN DO A PART TIME JOB, SAVE SOME BUCKS, BUY YOUR BABY.
DONE.

Just forget it.

Intel God said:
OP dont waste your money on a locked processor or socket 1155. If you cant afford a 4670K/Z87 board the 6300/970 UD3 would be a great combo

Why not? From what I've seen locked i5 still have better performance in games than 6300 overclock to hell.

Just look at the difference, even if overclocked it cant reach the i5 3470.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-a...
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_fx_8350_8320_6...
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July 6, 2013 1:55:33 PM

Fox_ said:
avilash98 said:
DEN DO A PART TIME JOB, SAVE SOME BUCKS, BUY YOUR BABY.
DONE.

Before he does that, you go to school.

I'm going to pick this as best answer!

And its fair because you were the one to say i5+gtx760

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July 6, 2013 1:57:09 PM

goncalopoeiras said:
avilash98 said:
DEN DO A PART TIME JOB, SAVE SOME BUCKS, BUY YOUR BABY.
DONE.

Just forget it.

Intel God said:
OP dont waste your money on a locked processor or socket 1155. If you cant afford a 4670K/Z87 board the 6300/970 UD3 would be a great combo

Why not? From what I've seen locked i5 still have better performance in games than 6300 overclock to hell.

Just look at the difference, even if overclocked it cant reach the i5 3470.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-a...
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_fx_8350_8320_6...


He probably suggested the FX-6300 because it is AM3+ and AM3+ still has an upgrade path, 1150 does not. Either that or he is self-loathing.
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July 6, 2013 1:59:52 PM

Intel god, I've seen a whole bunch of people give that talk about how you shouldn't bother with Ivy Bridge because it's a dead socket, even though it's a much more sure thing when overclocked, and usually comes out being faster than haswell...

Why is saying that LGA 1150 not dead at all relevant? Nobody upgrades from a tock to a tick; it's just a waste of money... so arguing that LGA 1150 isn't just as dead as 1155 seems kind of strange.
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July 6, 2013 2:05:46 PM

Fox_ said:
goncalopoeiras said:
avilash98 said:
DEN DO A PART TIME JOB, SAVE SOME BUCKS, BUY YOUR BABY.
DONE.

Just forget it.

Intel God said:
OP dont waste your money on a locked processor or socket 1155. If you cant afford a 4670K/Z87 board the 6300/970 UD3 would be a great combo

Why not? From what I've seen locked i5 still have better performance in games than 6300 overclock to hell.

Just look at the difference, even if overclocked it cant reach the i5 3470.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-a...
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_fx_8350_8320_6...


He probably suggested the FX-6300 because it is AM3+ and AM3+ still has an upgrade path, 1150 does not. Either that or he is self-loathing.

Right? And even if it has an upgrade path, I said I don't intend to upgrade in many years and I want more perfomance now.

When it really starts to need upgrading (Not soon, I hope) the am3+ socket probably just died too.

DarkSable said:
Intel god, I've seen a whole bunch of people give that talk about how you shouldn't bother with Ivy Bridge because it's a dead socket, even though it's a much more sure thing when overclocked, and usually comes out being faster than haswell...

Why is saying that LGA 1150 not dead at all relevant? Nobody upgrades from a tock to a tick; it's just a waste of money... so arguing that LGA 1150 isn't just as dead as 1155 seems kind of strange.

Thanks, that's what I meant.
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July 6, 2013 3:04:38 PM

DarkSable said:
Intel god, I've seen a whole bunch of people give that talk about how you shouldn't bother with Ivy Bridge because it's a dead socket, even though it's a much more sure thing when overclocked, and usually comes out being faster than haswell...


Not trying to call you a liar but i'd like some links and proof to that statement. All i hear from non haswell owners on this forum and even non intel owners is how ivy owns haswell but that's not even close to being the case. In every aspect haswell is better then ivy. The only fault is the horrible TIM under their IHS

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July 6, 2013 3:42:51 PM

That's fine. :)  I have worked with Haswell a fair bit, though.

Here's Tom's Hardware.
Quote:
Our first-hand information involves a high double-digit number of processors, including samples and final shipping boxed CPUs. Sort testing was limited to 1.2 V to keep heat manageable. Ring/cache ratios are pegged at 3.9 GHz, with the memory controller operating at 1,333 MT/s. Of the chips available for sorting, only one is stable at 4.6 GHz under full load. A few are capable of operating at 4.5 GHz. More run stably at 4.4 GHz. Most are solid at 4.3 GHz and down. As you stretch above a 1,600 MT/s memory data rate or a ring ratio to match your highest single-core Turbo Boost ratio (which helps maximize performance), your top stable core frequency tends to drop.


Overclockers.com guide to Haswell
Quote:
The first thing you need to know about Haswell you already found out in our review (read it here if you haven’t already) – it runs hot. You will need a lot more than the stock cooler if you want to overclock. With a very good air cooler or all-in-one water cooler, you’re looking at a heat limited voltage cap of about 1.25 V. At that voltage with air or AIO cooling, you’ll be seeing temperatures in the upper 80′s to lower 90′s (°C) range under normal full processor load.


Tech Report's Review
Quote:
Asus has tested hundreds of Haswell CPUs as part of its effort to profile the chip for auto-tuning algorithms. According to the motherboard maker, Intel's new hotness has a little less overclocking headroom than Ivy Bridge does. Perhaps more importantly, Haswell apparently has more variance from chip to chip, especially in the voltages necessary to hit specific speeds.
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July 6, 2013 6:13:01 PM

Intel God said:
DarkSable said:
Intel god, I've seen a whole bunch of people give that talk about how you shouldn't bother with Ivy Bridge because it's a dead socket, even though it's a much more sure thing when overclocked, and usually comes out being faster than haswell...


Not trying to call you a liar but i'd like some links and proof to that statement. All i hear from non haswell owners on this forum and even non intel owners is how ivy owns haswell but that's not even close to being the case. In every aspect haswell is better then ivy. The only fault is the horrible TIM under their IHS



DarkSable said:
That's fine. :)  I have worked with Haswell a fair bit, though.

Here's Tom's Hardware.
Quote:
Our first-hand information involves a high double-digit number of processors, including samples and final shipping boxed CPUs. Sort testing was limited to 1.2 V to keep heat manageable. Ring/cache ratios are pegged at 3.9 GHz, with the memory controller operating at 1,333 MT/s. Of the chips available for sorting, only one is stable at 4.6 GHz under full load. A few are capable of operating at 4.5 GHz. More run stably at 4.4 GHz. Most are solid at 4.3 GHz and down. As you stretch above a 1,600 MT/s memory data rate or a ring ratio to match your highest single-core Turbo Boost ratio (which helps maximize performance), your top stable core frequency tends to drop.


Overclockers.com guide to Haswell
Quote:
The first thing you need to know about Haswell you already found out in our review (read it here if you haven’t already) – it runs hot. You will need a lot more than the stock cooler if you want to overclock. With a very good air cooler or all-in-one water cooler, you’re looking at a heat limited voltage cap of about 1.25 V. At that voltage with air or AIO cooling, you’ll be seeing temperatures in the upper 80′s to lower 90′s (°C) range under normal full processor load.


Tech Report's Review
Quote:
Asus has tested hundreds of Haswell CPUs as part of its effort to profile the chip for auto-tuning algorithms. According to the motherboard maker, Intel's new hotness has a little less overclocking headroom than Ivy Bridge does. Perhaps more importantly, Haswell apparently has more variance from chip to chip, especially in the voltages necessary to hit specific speeds.

It's all over the place. Side to side, all the Ivy cpus beat the price equivalent Haswell cpu.

Maybe when they drop the price, they'll be worth it.

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July 7, 2013 7:29:06 AM

avilash98 said:
lol..i have finished school..and now it has been 2 months since.

What i said was true. If u would save some bucks and waited for some time then u might get d equivalent haswell and a standard gpu - gtx 760 or 770(will always remain to be a fantasy for u).
now u may buy this shitty parts since u r not patient and really excited and later after 2 years u will come crying in tom's again ask for damn solutions that no one will be able to solve.

goodluck gaming.

How about you just shut up? I've been saving money for atleast 6 months but then I had to pay some personal things (maybe you've heard how shit the economics is, here in portugal) and times are tough.

I just asked your opinions, not to tell me to just save more money. Maybe you live with your parents and they give you money but thats not the case for everyone. I have to pay bills and stuff. That's why I'm trying to build the best gaming pc I can with my budget since I can't waste money.

If I thought like you I would just be 2 years saving money to buy a 2000€ massive gaming pc.
But then after 5 years it would be the same thing since no pc lasts forever, so what your deal?

Why can't I build a 700€ now and enjoy it till it lasts? I don't mind lowering the resolution and graphics since that's what I've been doing with my laptop.

Keeping that in mind it will last like forever(till I don't feel like playing video games anymore).
And if I feel like upgrading I would just add a better graphics card.

Why spend 2000€ if spending 700€ would fill my needs?

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July 7, 2013 7:45:39 AM

avilash98 said:
ok...since u were in d league f gaming i suggested u dat.
and if u have problems den buy a psp...it will fulfill ur needs too.

i never said it would last forever...but longer.(hard of hearing and understanding, may be ur brain is impaired)
ur pc may start showin problems from d day u assemble it(happened for many, so no bsing), lik driver problems, black screens, stuttering, glitches...and what not.

while a decent threshold budget pc will run uninterruptedly for 5 or 6 years. while u have to struggle wid ur pc till d end of time.

But its difficult for me to save more money, do you understand that?

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