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July 7, 2013 2:28:30 AM

I am planning to do Gaming (while recording) as well as editing and Rendering some videos. Do I need 8GB or 16GB of RAM? And could someone please tell me how much RAM I would actually be using too

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July 7, 2013 2:40:07 AM

FlambePhoenix said:
I am planning to do Gaming (while recording) as well as editing and Rendering some videos. Do I need 8GB or 16GB of RAM? And could someone please tell me how much RAM I would actually be using too


8GB would be enough for that, although 16GB would be good if it is within your budget and would last you longer down the road. If it is good quality and in your budget then go for 16GB.
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July 7, 2013 7:04:41 AM

I would get a 16gb kit just to make sure ill have enough ram for a long time without upgrading. You might also want to get faster ram (1866+), not too sure if that will benefit or not since there is not much info on this topic.

8gb will be enough now but maybe at hd settings, or once next gen hits, it might prove to be too small.
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July 7, 2013 11:49:37 AM

8 GB is plenty, i dont find anything above 8 useful for my high spec gaming rig:) 
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July 8, 2013 4:02:37 PM

FlambePhoenix said:
I am planning to do Gaming (while recording) as well as editing and Rendering some videos. Do I need 8GB or 16GB of RAM? And could someone please tell me how much RAM I would actually be using too

As mentioned in one of the posts if it is withing your budget then go for 16GB rather than 8GB. If you usually render or edit large data sets then I'd say 16GB and sometimes almost 12GB - 14GB will be used depending on how you work on computer. Also multitasking will be much easier with more memory availability. More memory is always better. If you need any recommendation on memory then let me know your system model name and number.


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July 8, 2013 4:58:19 PM

What CPU and mobo, from the sounds of it 16GB would prob be better, though what 16GB is the question, and that can't be determined without knowing what CPU and mobo
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December 10, 2013 11:50:11 AM

8GB will be more than plenty for your purposes. For gaming, despite what some are bound to tell you, you'll almost never need more than 4GB of system RAM. Your GPU will have it's own dedicated RAM (GDDR5 which is essentially faster than DDR3) and games are mainly GPU bound anyways. Even with Kaveri, other APUs, and Intel's iGP you still won't benefit from much more than 4GB. AMD's APUs benefit from faster RAM however, since they use your system RAM heavily in lieu of dedicated GPU RAM. You will see a benefit of using more RAM for rendering, and in general, content creation. Aside from Mac users who tend to throw as much money at their machines as possible, without due cause aside from association, the jury is still out on whether or not 16GB, or more, of RAM will benefit you if you're not using a RAM cache or doing very intense professional rendering that'd require XEONs anyways. Servers are really the only machines that need 16GB, or more depending on usage, and that's including PCs meant for VM hosting. Hope that helps. Good luck filtering through all the misinformation!

Chris
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December 10, 2013 11:52:44 AM

fiebs said:
8GB will be more than plenty for your purposes. For gaming, despite what some are bound to tell you, you'll almost never need more than 4GB of system RAM. Your GPU will have it's own dedicated RAM (GDDR5 which is essentially faster than DDR3) and games are mainly GPU bound anyways. Even with Kaveri, other APUs, and Intel's iGP you still won't benefit from much more than 4GB. AMD's APUs benefit from faster RAM however, since they use your system RAM heavily in lieu of dedicated GPU RAM. You will see a benefit of using more RAM for rendering, and in general, content creation. Aside from Mac users who tend to throw as much money at their machines as possible, without due cause aside from association, the jury is still out on whether or not 16GB, or more, of RAM will benefit you if you're not using a RAM cache or doing very intense professional rendering that'd require XEONs anyways. Hope that helps. Good luck filtering through all the misinformation!

Chris


this is a 5 month old thread, I doubt the OP is monitoring it anymore
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December 10, 2013 11:55:27 AM

Supahos said:
fiebs said:
8GB will be more than plenty for your purposes. For gaming, despite what some are bound to tell you, you'll almost never need more than 4GB of system RAM. Your GPU will have it's own dedicated RAM (GDDR5 which is essentially faster than DDR3) and games are mainly GPU bound anyways. Even with Kaveri, other APUs, and Intel's iGP you still won't benefit from much more than 4GB. AMD's APUs benefit from faster RAM however, since they use your system RAM heavily in lieu of dedicated GPU RAM. You will see a benefit of using more RAM for rendering, and in general, content creation. Aside from Mac users who tend to throw as much money at their machines as possible, without due cause aside from association, the jury is still out on whether or not 16GB, or more, of RAM will benefit you if you're not using a RAM cache or doing very intense professional rendering that'd require XEONs anyways. Hope that helps. Good luck filtering through all the misinformation!

Chris


this is a 5 month old thread, I doubt the OP is monitoring it anymore


Good call, I never even looked, for whatever reason this popped up in one of my feeds. Hmm, cool. How did you catch my post so quickly?
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December 22, 2013 4:51:32 AM

fiebs said:
Supahos said:
fiebs said:
8GB will be more than plenty for your purposes. For gaming, despite what some are bound to tell you, you'll almost never need more than 4GB of system RAM. Your GPU will have it's own dedicated RAM (GDDR5 which is essentially faster than DDR3) and games are mainly GPU bound anyways. Even with Kaveri, other APUs, and Intel's iGP you still won't benefit from much more than 4GB. AMD's APUs benefit from faster RAM however, since they use your system RAM heavily in lieu of dedicated GPU RAM. You will see a benefit of using more RAM for rendering, and in general, content creation. Aside from Mac users who tend to throw as much money at their machines as possible, without due cause aside from association, the jury is still out on whether or not 16GB, or more, of RAM will benefit you if you're not using a RAM cache or doing very intense professional rendering that'd require XEONs anyways. Hope that helps. Good luck filtering through all the misinformation!

Chris


this is a 5 month old thread, I doubt the OP is monitoring it anymore


Good call, I never even looked, for whatever reason this popped up in one of my feeds. Hmm, cool. How did you catch my post so quickly?


This was actually very helpful for me, though, because I am looking at laptops for Christmas. So, thanks for the info!
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December 23, 2013 6:15:21 AM

Brutus222 said:
fiebs said:
Supahos said:
fiebs said:
8GB will be more than plenty for your purposes. For gaming, despite what some are bound to tell you, you'll almost never need more than 4GB of system RAM. Your GPU will have it's own dedicated RAM (GDDR5 which is essentially faster than DDR3) and games are mainly GPU bound anyways. Even with Kaveri, other APUs, and Intel's iGP you still won't benefit from much more than 4GB. AMD's APUs benefit from faster RAM however, since they use your system RAM heavily in lieu of dedicated GPU RAM. You will see a benefit of using more RAM for rendering, and in general, content creation. Aside from Mac users who tend to throw as much money at their machines as possible, without due cause aside from association, the jury is still out on whether or not 16GB, or more, of RAM will benefit you if you're not using a RAM cache or doing very intense professional rendering that'd require XEONs anyways. Hope that helps. Good luck filtering through all the misinformation!

Chris


this is a 5 month old thread, I doubt the OP is monitoring it anymore


Good call, I never even looked, for whatever reason this popped up in one of my feeds. Hmm, cool. How did you catch my post so quickly?


This was actually very helpful for me, though, because I am looking at laptops for Christmas. So, thanks for the info!


No problem. If I may, and if you're familiar with Ubuntu Linux, I'd suggest you check out these guys System76. Even if you're not a Linux fan you can still load Windows on their laptops. Have a merry Christmas & a happy new year.
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December 27, 2013 2:31:02 PM

Supahos said:
fiebs said:
8GB will be more than plenty for your purposes. For gaming, despite what some are bound to tell you, you'll almost never need more than 4GB of system RAM. Your GPU will have it's own dedicated RAM (GDDR5 which is essentially faster than DDR3) and games are mainly GPU bound anyways. Even with Kaveri, other APUs, and Intel's iGP you still won't benefit from much more than 4GB. AMD's APUs benefit from faster RAM however, since they use your system RAM heavily in lieu of dedicated GPU RAM. You will see a benefit of using more RAM for rendering, and in general, content creation. Aside from Mac users who tend to throw as much money at their machines as possible, without due cause aside from association, the jury is still out on whether or not 16GB, or more, of RAM will benefit you if you're not using a RAM cache or doing very intense professional rendering that'd require XEONs anyways. Hope that helps. Good luck filtering through all the misinformation!

Chris


this is a 5 month old thread, I doubt the OP is monitoring it anymore


I've always hated when people complain about necroposting. Yea, the topic was old, but the great thing about the internet is there are always people searching.

I found this topic useful, including the necro posts that revived it.
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January 18, 2014 7:32:41 PM

FlambePhoenix said:
I am planning to do Gaming (while recording) as well as editing and Rendering some videos. Do I need 8GB or 16GB of RAM? And could someone please tell me how much RAM I would actually be using too


I have used 8GB and 16GB [with slightly more loose timing] and 16GB of RAM plays my games smoother, less chop.
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January 20, 2014 4:47:02 PM

Danra said:
FlambePhoenix said:
I am planning to do Gaming (while recording) as well as editing and Rendering some videos. Do I need 8GB or 16GB of RAM? And could someone please tell me how much RAM I would actually be using too


I have used 8GB and 16GB [with slightly more loose timing] and 16GB of RAM plays my games smoother, less chop.


My workstation will use up a majority of the 16GB I have, but that's with rendering and distributing virtual machines. Just simply running games, normal software, and the OS shouldn't exceed 4GB or maybe 6GB, unless there's an issue. Games use the GPU's dedicated vRAM and not your main memory, so there shouldn't be much of a difference in gaming past 4GB of system RAM. The timings on your old module may have been pretty high, or perhaps the quality was bad? Are the frequencies the same? For a snappy system you typically want a lower CAS timing, rather than simply a higher frequency- despite what manufacturers and "enthusiasts" claim. The opposite tends to be true with APUs though. To see how fast your RAM is in comparison to another you can use the following calculation:

(CL/(Freq-in-MHZ) * 1000) = speed in nanoseconds

Cheers,

Chris
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January 20, 2014 8:21:07 PM

fiebs said:
Danra said:
FlambePhoenix said:
I am planning to do Gaming (while recording) as well as editing and Rendering some videos. Do I need 8GB or 16GB of RAM? And could someone please tell me how much RAM I would actually be using too


I have used 8GB and 16GB [with slightly more loose timing] and 16GB of RAM plays my games smoother, less chop.


My workstation will use up a majority of the 16GB I have, but that's with rendering and distributing virtual machines. Just simply running games, normal software, and the OS shouldn't exceed 4GB or maybe 6GB, unless there's an issue. Games use the GPU's dedicated vRAM and not your main memory, so there shouldn't be much of a difference in gaming past 4GB of system RAM. The timings on your old module may have been pretty high, or perhaps the quality was bad? Are the frequencies the same? For a snappy system you typically want a lower CAS timing, rather than simply a higher frequency- despite what manufacturers and "enthusiasts" claim. The opposite tends to be true with APUs though. To see how fast your RAM is in comparison to another you can use the following calculation:

(CL/(Freq-in-MHZ) * 1000) = speed in nanoseconds

Cheers,

Chris


Thank you for your reply. I use the same 16GB of RAM sticks and timings through 4.4GHz CPU, at 4.5+GHz I loosen the timing very slightly for the sake of stability. I am currently using 4GB x 4 sticks. When I used 2 sticks of the same RAM my timings were tighter, up to the thermal limit that I felt safe with on air, at 4.7GHz.

My RAM is G.Skill from http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Many motherboards have less overhead running 2 sticks compared to 4, mine is one of them. I have 8GB x2 sticks of RAM on the way to tighten timing while overclocked. I can sell my 4GB sticks, they are great RAM, however, as I said, I seem to get smoother game-play with 16GB.

It is true that 8GB is plenty of RAM for gaming, however, if I did a lot of surfing the internet for technical information while a game was open, and I often found myself running out of RAM.

I fully understand your statement, as I have been overclocking for decades and was once in the computer hardware field as a profession.

Please pardon any improper remarks, I am very tired at this time.

I wish you good computing.
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