Z87 Haswell build suggestion

G

Guest

Guest
I'm looking to build a custom (my first build). I'm a college student, i will be using my system to do some editing (a hobby), programming, run some engineering programs and maybe some gaming (like maybe minecraft). Also, i would like to install both windows 8 and mac OS X (i own a macbook pro, and i like mac os). Listed below are the parts that i have in mind along with some future updates. I would like to hear some suggestion and feedback, thanks:

budget: $900-$950

PARTS:
-Fractal Design Define R4 Case (Black)
-Intel Core i7-4770K
-Asus Z87 PRO (or Sabertooth z87)
-SeaSonic G Series 550W PSU
-Samsung 840 Series 120GB SSD
-corsair vengeance 8GB RAM (i already have it)

FUTURE UPGRADES:
-WD caviar black 1TB
-EVGA GPU
-corsair H100i

i will be building this system over the course of next semester (fall 2013). Any suggestion or feedback is appreciated!!!
 
Solution
1. overclocking

there is absolutely no harm in overclocking as long as you stay within the bounds of that CPU. If they pushed every CPU to its limits then the difference between there top chips and the middle would not have enough disparity to make people want to spend more. I would have to dig for the old articles that i have read that show how overclock does not need to be tuned down overtime. In other words when a CPU is pushed to hard overtime you would have to lower clocks as things started to break down. the intel chips have not shown this propensity and as long as your cooling solution is adequate then you are safe. The asus built in utilities do a very good job of overclocking and doing it safely, if it did not then...

fkr

Splendid
there is the rog board also
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131989

CPU:
this is all you will ever need
CPU i5 4670k:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899
then you can overclock right away and get the

CPU COOLER:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or kick it up a notch with:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
the first would be plenty and the second would be perfect and you could never overheat your CPU no matter what you did and will outperform and be quieter than any closed loop system

maybe with the i5 you could fit a gpu into your budget
GPU Radeon HD 7770:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131477
 
G

Guest

Guest



but isn't the ROG motherboard directed more toward gamers? like what others benefits can i get by choosing the Hero over the z87-pro or sabertooth z87?
i like the z87-pro because of the I/O it has and also the WI-FO, but i also like the sabertooth because of its look and the 5 year warranty.

you recommended the i5 over the i7, but dont you think the i7 gives me the bank for the buck? since it has the hyper treading technology and also 8MB L3 Cache

i'm also concerned about over-clocking, if it will shorten the life spam of my system

thanks, i appreciated your feedback
 

fkr

Splendid
1. overclocking

there is absolutely no harm in overclocking as long as you stay within the bounds of that CPU. If they pushed every CPU to its limits then the difference between there top chips and the middle would not have enough disparity to make people want to spend more. I would have to dig for the old articles that i have read that show how overclock does not need to be tuned down overtime. In other words when a CPU is pushed to hard overtime you would have to lower clocks as things started to break down. the intel chips have not shown this propensity and as long as your cooling solution is adequate then you are safe. The asus built in utilities do a very good job of overclocking and doing it safely, if it did not then 1000's of customers would be crying about how asus software blew up there computer and you just do not find this.
hell toms recommends the k edition chips and the only reason to buy a k edition chip is to overclock.

2. bang for your buck and hyper threading

bang for your buck is all dependent on what you are doing.
http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-hyper-threading-technology-your-questions-answered
intel q/a above and it seems at best you can get another 20% performance if you running something that is max out all four CPU cores. there are not to many instances where this will occur. So what you gain over an i5 is not that significant unless you are running a business that uses the software that needs that much power and this would lead to a cost savings as employees get more done per hour.

3. which motherboard

well they all seem to support at least 2133 MHz ram which is plenty fast enough. It really comes down to which features are you willing to pay for. the rog and other premium boards come with the overclocking software some asus motherboards are not supported. that software is worth every penny if you want to safely overclock your computer including the ram. and while rog does stand for republic of gamers it is really just geared towards enthusiasts and most gamers fall into this realm.
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1150/SABERTOOTH-Z87/SABERTOOTH-Z87_DRAM_QVL.pdf

the rog board does have a high quality audio controller that you can tweak wattage in the bios. not sure if audio quality is a concern.

in the end any of the asus boards will work and as long as you get the software and features i would buy whatever fits your needs. most things are standardized in each platform as far a z 78 and such goes
 
Solution