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July 7, 2013 1:33:54 PM

Hello everyone, i'm gonna build my first PC and i've done my research on how to do it etc.. But i am a bit unsure of how good PSU i will need/want and if the SSD is worth the extra money.

This is my build so far http://www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/3568115/2013-07-07

That's pretty much all of my money right there, im from sweden so our currency is different. But apart from that, is the SSD worth it for such a cheap computer or should i remove the SSD and get a better GPU/PSU and CPU?

Because i feel like the SSD is taking alot of the money and it leaves me with less options when it comes to graphics card.

Should i drop the SSD and do this build instead?http://www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/3568162/2013-07-07 It got the GTX660 and a better CPU + 600W PSU

What do you think? The PC is primary going to be used for gaming. Also, is it gonna be future proof for another 3 years or so?
I need some advice please!

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July 7, 2013 1:39:59 PM

Are you planning on overclocking? And would it be possible to get a GTX650 Ti Boost with SSD? That would give you much more than the 10% extra framerates of a GTX660 with no SSD.
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July 7, 2013 1:46:45 PM

I'm thinking about overclocking my CPU in the future when i have some time to do the research.
Hmm, what about if i go back the i5 3450 and get a 660Ti instead?

And no sorry im at the limit of my budget, can't stretch any further
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July 7, 2013 1:52:17 PM

Don't bother with the GTX660 Ti - the GTX760 (the new replacement of the Ti) is faster and cheaper. That with either i5 would be an excellent setup.
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July 7, 2013 1:57:05 PM

a ssd will not improve gameplay or make any type of software run faster. It will help with load times for OS, games and software.

I would go GPU all the way.

the i5 will be future proof unless something happens that pushes all software to a new level computing needs. an i5 will run 3 titans in sli so for gaming I doubt you will have any issues for 3 years. the 660 should keep you covered for 1080p gaming. you would like to see a gtx760 maybe but depending on price i think you are at a good spot. it all just depends on your local pricing really.

like how much more is it for a haswell build with the z87 board and a new i5 4670k.

you will need a cpu cooler if you overclock your cpu. at least a cooler master hyper 212 evo +
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July 7, 2013 1:57:49 PM

You're better off to worry about CPU, GPU and PSU before SSD. In all reality, SSD provides the least performance gain and going with a GTX650Ti means upgrading your graphics card sooner. Contrary to sam_p_lay's statement, that 10% difference between the 650Ti and 660 can mean the difference between a game being playable....and not.
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July 7, 2013 1:59:08 PM

Today, I will not build a pc without a SSD for at least the os and a few apps.
It makes everything you do every day feel so much quicker.
120gb will hold the os and a handful of games. With 240gb you may never need a hard drive at all. But, worth is something only YOU can determine. I like intel and Samsung best. You might consider deferring on the hard drive; you can always add one for more capacity later.
The GTX650ti and GTX660 are relatively close in performance. You might be hard pressed to tell the difference without a benchmark. Still, gaming is primarily dependent on the graphics card, so put your budget there first.
Either card will run on a 430w psu.
The 3570K and the newer 4670K will perform about equally when overclocked.
Without overclocking, the 4670K will perform 10% better. I think I would go that way if for no other reason than the superior Z87 based motherboards.
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July 7, 2013 2:01:46 PM

with the 3450 you wont be doing much if any overclocking, so you can get a cheaper motherboard. (Only buy z77 if your running a 'k' series processor)

The SSD only effects boot and load times so you would be much better off getting rid of it and using all the money from it to get a bigger and better GPU.... The 770 would be amasing and possibly within budget but i dont know swedish prices :p 
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July 7, 2013 2:03:16 PM

sykozis said:
You're better off to worry about CPU, GPU and PSU before SSD. In all reality, SSD provides the least performance gain and going with a GTX650Ti means upgrading your graphics card sooner. Contrary to sam_p_lay's statement, that 10% difference between the 650Ti and 660 can mean the difference between a game being playable....and not.


Firstly, there's a hell of a lot more than 10% between the GTX660 and the GTX650 Ti. I was talking about the GTX650 Ti Boost I recommended. Secondly, you can do the math on this yourself (at least you should be able to) - you don't even need a calculator. 10% is the difference between 30fps and 33fps. I don't think that will determine whether or not a game is playable.
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July 7, 2013 2:06:45 PM

ehm why did you go with an z77 mobo if u havent a unlocked cpu u cant even overclock.
buy a other chipset and save on the mobo and go eith the ssd.
ssd`s are great
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July 7, 2013 2:07:54 PM

I never went with an SSD myself, due to money reasons. If you're loaded with money, go for it, if not, then a standard hard disk is fine. The benefits you get from an SSD are:

- Silent operation
- Very fast access for files (up to 250x faster than a standard hard drive apparently)
- Faster boot up times
- Little to no mechanical failure
- Better fitting for cases, as SSD's are very small and light weight

My recommendation would be to get a standard hard drive now, and perhaps later on when you get the money it may be worth purchasing an SSD. They are getting cheaper I believe, and it would be nice to somehow stick your OS files onto it, making boot up speeds fast. They're also very good for recording (such as Fraps), as their write speeds are good.
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July 7, 2013 2:10:29 PM

It's not a bad idea. Only thing is getting OS files on there means reinstalling everything. But if the alternative is taking a GTX650 Ti instead of a GTX760, I'd be inclined to go with the graphics card. That's a much larger difference than vs GTX660 (which is already a considerable difference as it is).
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July 7, 2013 2:11:09 PM

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...
this is toms GPU chart and it shows the difference as being significant, 20% closer to a 690 so that is pretty spectacular. this difference is less from the ti boost edition. we can all read the chart for ourselves I am sure.

the 660 is good the tahiti LE and gtx 760 are the sweet spots and the 660 is just an older version of the 760 so it only lags behind a little
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July 7, 2013 2:13:14 PM

ssd's will be getting cheaper still i beleive since the new samsung pro seems to fill up everybit of their sata bandwidth. so now that they are the top they will just lower costs and make the tech smaller.
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July 7, 2013 2:16:47 PM

For the cpu, I like to go with newer products.
The 4570 costs a bit more than the 3450, but is faster.
http://www.inet.se/produkt/5310049/intel-core-i5-4570-3...
You can put it in a less expensive 85 M-ATX motherboard and combined, pay less:
http://www.inet.se/produkt/1902495/asus-b85m-g-matx

The stock cpu cooler will be fine, if you look at overclockable cpu's, you would have to figure in the cost of a aftermarket cooler.

Figure what you have left to budget for a graphics card. From what I can see, the GTX7xx cards are unusually expensive.

As to longevity, who knows three years out. But, today, a 550-600w psu will let you run a card as good as a titan.
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July 7, 2013 2:27:22 PM

I think i've made up my mind, i will be going with the first build (with SSD), but i want the gtx 660 GPU. And i just realised thx to Orionator that the mobo is more expensive than it has to be.
A got a few more question,
What chipset will work the best(if there is one) with i5 3450?
Will i need a standard ATX mobo? Or is the m-ATX mobo good enough?
I've also decided to not overclock anything
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July 7, 2013 2:27:35 PM

The GTX700s are indeed overpriced, except the GTX760 which offers excellent performance for the money. It's on average around 20-25% faster than the GTX660, yet cheaper than the GTX660 Ti. I wouldn't recommend anything higher than the GTX760 except to those running extremely high resolution and/or obsessed with being able to run everything at maximum settings.
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July 7, 2013 2:29:18 PM

Good choice :-) H77 will do nicely for chipset, or failing that, B75.
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July 7, 2013 3:06:01 PM

that asrock link is to a msi board. the labeliing is off.
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July 7, 2013 3:31:18 PM

Tev0 said:
Thx everyone for your thoughts and input!

This will be the final prodcut http://www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/3568207/2013-07-07 , Gaming PCs doesnt have to be expensive! :D 


Nice work - that's a fantastic setup! You could even sell the game and get a little money back if you don't want it. I'm having a hard time getting rid of mine though, the codes sell for pretty cheap. Great job anyway :-)
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July 7, 2013 5:34:58 PM

it has a Rear: 120 mm fan x 1 included and room for 5 or 6 more
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