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Would a AMD A10-6800k bottleneck a Radeon HD 7950?

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July 7, 2013 6:04:35 PM

I'm quite new to building my own PC, and I was looking at the 6800k and HD 7950. Would my CPU bottleneck my GPU?
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July 7, 2013 6:09:47 PM

NO, you will be happy with that.
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July 7, 2013 6:17:53 PM

ur6beersaway said:
NO, you will be happy with that.


Shhh, yes, it would in a way. Its not that simple but in general but basically it will be pointless paring an HD7950 with the 6800K.
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July 7, 2013 6:21:38 PM

Novuake said:
ur6beersaway said:
NO, you will be happy with that.


Shhh, yes, it would in a way. Its not that simple but in general but basically it will be pointless paring an HD7950 with the 6800K.


Why?
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July 7, 2013 6:23:18 PM

because like a 965 the processor isn't fast enough to push the card to it's potential.

I think people who buy the current APU's forget why they exist.
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July 7, 2013 6:24:14 PM

its lower end and the 7950 would be bottlenecked by a lower end part its like pairing the 7950 with a 6950 it would bottleneck
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July 7, 2013 6:25:30 PM

ur6beersaway said:
Novuake said:
ur6beersaway said:
NO, you will be happy with that.


Shhh, yes, it would in a way. Its not that simple but in general but basically it will be pointless paring an HD7950 with the 6800K.


Why?


Really? Have you seen how many people have complained on this forum about APUs being coupled with high end GPUs? Other than the fact that there are sooooo many reviews stating sub-par CPU performance.
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July 7, 2013 6:30:59 PM

Novuake said:
ur6beersaway said:
Novuake said:
ur6beersaway said:
NO, you will be happy with that.


Shhh, yes, it would in a way. Its not that simple but in general but basically it will be pointless paring an HD7950 with the 6800K.


Why?


Really? Have you seen how many people have complained on this forum about APUs being coupled with high end GPUs? Other than the fact that there are sooooo many reviews stating sub-par CPU performance.


Point well taken, probably why I abandoned the FM-2 socket myself. Thanks
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July 7, 2013 6:31:22 PM

I doubt it. People like to act like just because it's not a 3570K or an 8350 it will bottleneck a decent gpu. Fact is it's a Piledriver quad @ 4.1 Ghz. My 6300 hasn't gone over 70% in the craziest of multi-player games with cranked settings running an overclocked 7870 LE which is basically a 7950.
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July 7, 2013 6:34:10 PM

ur6beersaway said:

Point well taken, probably why I abandoned the FM-2 socket myself. Thanks


It has its uses, but for high spec 1080p+ gaming, definitely not.
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July 7, 2013 6:38:01 PM

Novuake said:
ur6beersaway said:

Point well taken, probably why I abandoned the FM-2 socket myself. Thanks


It has its uses, but for high spec 1080p+ gaming, definitely not.


I never got what I wanted until I switched to intel, It took forever but i'm "there":p  for now.
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July 7, 2013 6:42:18 PM

cmi86 said:
I doubt it. People like to act like just because it's not a 3570K or an 8350 it will bottleneck a decent gpu. Fact is it's a Piledriver quad @ 4.1 Ghz. My 6300 hasn't gone over 70% in the craziest of multi-player games with cranked settings running an overclocked 7870 LE which is basically a 7950.


Its NOT an effective Piledriver quad. Do i really have to explain why?
Let me rather ask you how can they cram that VLIW4 graphics part on a chip so small?

The 6800K has a die size of 246mm2.
The FX4300 has a die size of 315mm2.

I will let you make your own assumptions from just that little bit of info.
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July 7, 2013 6:44:45 PM

ur6beersaway said:
Novuake said:
ur6beersaway said:

Point well taken, probably why I abandoned the FM-2 socket myself. Thanks


It has its uses, but for high spec 1080p+ gaming, definitely not.


I never got what I wanted until I switched to intel, It took forever but i'm "there":p  for now.


AMD is capable of the pure performance. But not the APUs.
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July 7, 2013 10:23:19 PM

chimechongas said:
I'm quite new to building my own PC, and I was looking at the 6800k and HD 7950. Would my CPU bottleneck my GPU?


You can't Crossfire an HD 7950 with a 6800k. It would have to be a HD 7750 or HD7770. Check out the requirements on the AMD website.
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July 7, 2013 10:30:37 PM

os2wiz said:
chimechongas said:
I'm quite new to building my own PC, and I was looking at the 6800k and HD 7950. Would my CPU bottleneck my GPU?


You can't Crossfire an HD 7950 with a 6800k. It would have to be a HD 7750 or HD7770. Check out the requirements on the AMD website.


No one said he wanted to Xfire on the HD7950. And no, there is NO confirmation a 6800K can be Xfired with either the HD7770 or HD7750.
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July 7, 2013 10:41:53 PM

I had a few people say they could with a 7750. maybe they just think it is? I'm not going to buy one to prove it. .......... haven't seen anywhere that AMD says it though. .....................
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July 7, 2013 10:45:20 PM

swifty_morgan said:
I had a few people say they could with a 7750. maybe they just think it is? I'm not going to buy one to prove it. .......... haven't seen anywhere that AMD says it though. .....................


I know, I have read half of them. Still skeptical. Just not enough evidence.
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July 7, 2013 11:16:23 PM

swifty_morgan said:
I had a few people say they could with a 7750. maybe they just think it is? I'm not going to buy one to prove it. .......... haven't seen anywhere that AMD says it though. .....................


Yes you can. The guy does not know what he is talking about. The HD 7750 is listed as compatible with is it Richland or Kaveri I honestly forgot.
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July 8, 2013 1:13:21 AM

os2wiz said:
swifty_morgan said:
I had a few people say they could with a 7750. maybe they just think it is? I'm not going to buy one to prove it. .......... haven't seen anywhere that AMD says it though. .....................


Yes you can. The guy does not know what he is talking about. The HD 7750 is listed as compatible with is it Richland or Kaveri I honestly forgot.


Official link proving this? As sooon as you can not provide it I will tell you why its not supposed to work.

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July 8, 2013 6:34:28 PM

Novuake said:
ur6beersaway said:
Novuake said:
ur6beersaway said:

Point well taken, probably why I abandoned the FM-2 socket myself. Thanks


It has its uses, but for high spec 1080p+ gaming, definitely not.


I never got what I wanted until I switched to intel, It took forever but i'm "there":p  for now.


AMD is capable of the pure performance. But not the APUs.


Novuake said:
os2wiz said:
swifty_morgan said:
I had a few people say they could with a 7750. maybe they just think it is? I'm not going to buy one to prove it. .......... haven't seen anywhere that AMD says it though. .....................


Yes you can. The guy does not know what he is talking about. The HD 7750 is listed as compatible with is it Richland or Kaveri I honestly forgot.


Official link proving this? As sooon as you can not provide it I will tell you why its not supposed to work.



I checked AMD's site on dual GPUs while researching a new laptop. The result? The 7700 series won't X-fire with an APU's IGPU. You're right and the other guy is seriously inept/unknowledgeable.
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July 8, 2013 6:43:25 PM

Thanatos Telos said:

I checked AMD's site on dual GPUs while researching a new laptop. The result? The 7700 series won't X-fire with an APU's IGPU. You're right and the other guy is seriously inept/unknowledgeable.


Thank you, wish he would have answered, but to be honest, did not think he would.
HD7xxx series cards are based on GCN architecture.
HD6xxx series cards are based on VLIW4.
Since dual-GPU has to be of the same type AT LEAST, Xfiring them will not work unless you makes some serious modifications and write your own drivers on top of that.

HOWEVER I have read a few people have been claiming to do a HD7750 at best. But to be honest, they are too few to be believable and they provide to little proof.
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July 8, 2013 6:47:30 PM

ElMoIsEviL said:
This looks pretty legit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyGDvnSXqfU


Just wasted 2 mins of my life... How does that "look legit"???
No proof that the HD7750 is even running in Xfire mode?
No benches with the HD7750 running alone or in Xfire?

AND most importantly, YOUTUBE? You gotta be kidding me...
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July 8, 2013 7:30:16 PM

the guy is a system builder................. and he says you can play FC3 on what settings with that set up?........... at 800x600 resolution?

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July 8, 2013 7:39:53 PM

swifty_morgan said:
the guy is a system builder................. and he says you can play FC3 on what settings with that set up?........... at 800x600 resolution?



You talking about the Youtube video?

I really don't see the point of that video at all.
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July 8, 2013 7:43:55 PM

Novuake said:
swifty_morgan said:
the guy is a system builder................. and he says you can play FC3 on what settings with that set up?........... at 800x600 resolution?



You talking about the Youtube video?

I really don't see the point of that video at all.


I like to soak up what I can. don't have to agree with what is on it though. was a tight build so he must know something about assembly anyways.
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July 8, 2013 7:48:24 PM

swifty_morgan said:

I like to soak up what I can. don't have to agree with what is on it though. was a tight build so he must know something about assembly anyways.


What I mean is... The guy does not seem to say anything meaningful. Just rabbles on...
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July 8, 2013 7:57:43 PM

Novuake said:
swifty_morgan said:

I like to soak up what I can. don't have to agree with what is on it though. was a tight build so he must know something about assembly anyways.


What I mean is... The guy does not seem to say anything meaningful. Just rabbles on...


true. no usable data.
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July 8, 2013 8:11:25 PM

ur6beersaway said:
Can I waste another 30 seconds? https://www.vibox.co.uk/news/graphics-cards/amd-a10-680...


Still does not mean ANYTHING.
I have seen those before. At least not a total 30secs waste.

To convince me you would need a side by side 3D mark comparison with all the included info on that thread from MULTIPLE REPUTED sources.
Anything can be minipulated.
That is STILL not enough info, maybe windows is getting fooled into thinking its in Dual Graphics Xfire, but then its just running graphics of the HD7750? That would be my first guess.
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July 8, 2013 8:24:29 PM

I noticed in the video when he was crossfiring in the CCC it showed 2 cards......... not a card and an APU. So I don't trust that one.

there's another video on the right with a bloke in a black hat saying he tried a 7750 and it wouldn't work. ( apu w/6670 )

regardless, they were all at lower resolution and no AA because every one I watched had jagged edges and just looked like hell in comparison to what I'm used to.

I am going to buy my own APU in Dec. or early next year so I can do my own tests at my leisure. ( one of the new ones- FM2+ )..............

started buying components last month. Have an operating system....LOL.

If people would take these APU's and see them for what they are and use them as they are supposed to be used, I see no problems with them. But when I see stuff I need to have proof. that would be in my hands or from somebody I knew.
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July 8, 2013 8:30:13 PM

swifty_morgan said:
I noticed in the video when he was crossfiring in the CCC it showed 2 cards......... not a card and an APU. So I don't trust that one.

there's another video on the right with a bloke in a black hat saying he tried a 7750 and it wouldn't work. ( apu w/6670 )

regardless, they were all at lower resolution and no AA because every one I watched had jagged edges and just looked like hell in comparison to what I'm used to.

I am going to buy my own APU in Dec. or early next year so I can do my own tests at my leisure. ( one of the new ones- FM2+ )..............

started buying components last month. Have an operating system....LOL.

If people would take these APU's and see them for what they are and use them as they are supposed to be used, I see no problems with them. But when I see stuff I need to have proof. that would be in my hands or from somebody I knew.


I fully agree... Create a thread and let me know once you do this please?
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July 8, 2013 8:35:03 PM

I'm old and my brain is failing. hope I remember.
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July 8, 2013 8:45:09 PM

swifty_morgan said:
I'm old and my brain is failing. hope I remember.


Hahahaha sure you will see me around when you get to it, I have an FM1 system at home, but not really willing to get FM2 and to do it myself...
I can't justify spending money just for that.
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July 8, 2013 9:04:47 PM

it is stupid. I'm a hardware junkie. been cutting back but just can't help it.
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July 8, 2013 9:14:06 PM

Yeah, some things are worth it, but having 4 unused (modern) systems laying around does get ridiculous.
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July 8, 2013 9:24:57 PM

I know somebody that has a room full.
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July 8, 2013 9:35:40 PM

swifty_morgan said:
I know somebody that has a room full.


Hahaha I pity him or his wallet...
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July 8, 2013 11:07:33 PM

if his girlfriend knew the money he spent on that stuff she would kill him.
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July 8, 2013 11:09:33 PM

Tut tut tut, best part is woman tend to spend a lot more on clothing and accessories.
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July 10, 2013 2:45:12 PM

Novuake said:
ElMoIsEviL said:
This looks pretty legit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyGDvnSXqfU


Just wasted 2 mins of my life... How does that "look legit"???
No proof that the HD7750 is even running in Xfire mode?
No benches with the HD7750 running alone or in Xfire?

AND most importantly, YOUTUBE? You gotta be kidding me...


Not sure why you find it so hard to accept YouTube videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKO0njZN10g

As for your attitude... you might want to keep in in check when you're addressing fellow forum members who haven't insulted you.
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July 11, 2013 5:38:37 AM

ElMoIsEviL said:

Not sure why you find it so hard to accept YouTube videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKO0njZN10g

As for your attitude... you might want to keep in in check when you're addressing fellow forum members who haven't insulted you.


Look its not like I do not WANT it to work, hell it would be great, but until there is CLEAR proof from reliable sources, suggesting it is folly.
Videos are too easy to edit, once again that video has no comparison. Just a CCC and GPU-Z showing DUal graphics with no credebility.
I was not being rude to him, I just don't like the spread of misinformation.
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