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July 7, 2013 7:27:22 PM

I currently have a little over $600 to invest into a new PC. I want to make the switch from Mac, and build a PC that can handle games well. I will be playing games such as Battlefield 3, Arma 2, Minecraft, etc. Nothing TOO intensive, like Crysis 3 lol. I just want to be able to play the games I listed on Highest-High settings without breaking my bank account.

I have a few builds I like, but I'm sure you guys could do better as I have never built my own PC. But, I want to get the most bang for my buck!

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ryanfree/saved/1UML - $650
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ryanfree/saved/1UMO - $685
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ryanfree/saved/1UMQ - $570

I may hold off on some non-essential parts for a week or so, until I get paid this Thursday. Like an SSD.

Any suggestions? :) 

Approximate Purchase Date: This week-Next Week

Budget Range: $500-$650

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Movies, Surfing

Are you buying a monitor: No



Parts to Upgrade: CPU, RAM, Graphics card, Power Supply, motherboard, all parts essentially

Do you need to buy OS: No.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg/microcenter

Location: Atlanta, GA

Parts Preferences: Not too picky. Just whatever is best for the lowest price.

Overclocking: Maybe? Im not sure if ill need it?

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe. I can add a new GFX card later?

Your Monitor Resolution: (e.g.: 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1440x900, 1600x1200, 1680x1050, 1920x1080, 1920x1200 or if you're upgrading please state what you'd want to get)

Additional Comments: Not too picky on noise. or looks. Just performance

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: My macbook broke, so I want a new gaming rig.
a b 4 Gaming
July 7, 2013 7:45:18 PM

Over shoots your budget by just a tad, but it has several advantages.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston T1 Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($59.09 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $668.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-07 22:39 EDT-0400)

The Cpu is enough to get you rolling. I upgraded recently from the Phenom II 940 to an Intel 3570k, and I don't notice any difference. After Amd releases their new processor lineup later this year, you'll still be able to throw in the latest and greatest Amd Cpu in that motherboard because they are sticking with socket AM3+.

You have the best budget video card out right now in the 760. This one has one of the higher stock clock rates as well.

The Ram is less expensive than many others, and it still has Cas latency 9 with 1866mhz.

The Case is super cheap for a decent quality one. Nzxt makees solid enclosures.

Xfx Psu. 'Nuff said.

Down the road you'll want to buy a Cpu cooler. You can overclock that Cpu fairly well, and when you buy another processor, you'll use the same cooler. Look at the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo, which runs between 28 and 35 dollars. You've already said that you'll eventually want to buy an SSD as well. That's a great part to wait on. This build will get you up and running for not a lot of cash. Has options to upgrade down the road as well.
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July 7, 2013 7:49:08 PM

Swordkd said:
Over shoots your budget by just a tad, but it has several advantages.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston T1 Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($59.09 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $668.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-07 22:39 EDT-0400)

The Cpu is enough to get you rolling. I upgraded recently from the Phenom II 940 to an Intel 3570k, and I don't notice any difference. After Amd releases their new processor lineup later this year, you'll still be able to throw in the latest and greatest Amd Cpu in that motherboard because they are sticking with socket AM3+.

You have the best budget video card out right now in the 760. This one has one of the higher stock clock rates as well.

The Ram is less expensive than many others, and it still has Cas latency 9 with 1866mhz.

The Case is super cheap for a decent quality one. Nzxt makees solid enclosures.

Xfx Psu. 'Nuff said.

Down the road you'll want to buy a Cpu cooler. You can overclock that Cpu fairly well, and when you buy another processor, you'll use the same cooler. Look at the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo, which runs between 28 and 35 dollars. You've already said that you'll eventually want to buy an SSD as well. That's a great part to wait on. This build will get you up and running for not a lot of cash. Has options to upgrade down the road as well.


Awesome! I can probably save myself $70 for now. I have a 500GB 3.5" Seagate HDD I will be using until I get the SDD and 1TB HDD. Is there anyway to go with a cheaper graphics card without sacrificing too much performance?

That build should be able to play the games ive listed pretty well?
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July 7, 2013 8:20:12 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($56.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $611.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-07 23:20 EDT-0400)
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July 7, 2013 8:27:28 PM

mastrom101 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($56.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $611.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-07 23:20 EDT-0400)


Can you list some pros of your choices? Will they run the games I've listed on high to ultra settings?
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July 7, 2013 8:29:46 PM

FX CPU can be overclocked with EVO for tons of CPU firepower. Good motherboard, 8 GB of Corsair RAM. 660Ti is a great performer at it's price. Corsair PSU.
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July 7, 2013 8:49:10 PM

Right now there is a 7870Ghz edition card on Newegg for 200 dollars. It isn't as good as the 760, but it costs 60 dollars less. Don't bother with the 6300fx. The 965 actually performs within 1% of it in games, and in some actually surpasses it. This is stock vs. stock comparison. Take a look at the comparisons here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-fr... The 965 would best be compared with the 980, just realize it isn't quite as fast. However, there isn't any reason to spend the extra money on the 6300 for the little performance difference.

Here is a comparison of the 760 I listed against a stock 7870. http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/57453-evga-gefor... Just keep in mind the Ghz editions are a little faster than stock 7870's. The 660ti isn't bad though, but I'd rather spend the extra 40 bucks for the 760.
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July 8, 2013 6:00:30 AM

Swordkd said:
Right now there is a 7870Ghz edition card on Newegg for 200 dollars. It isn't as good as the 760, but it costs 60 dollars less. Don't bother with the 6300fx. The 965 actually performs within 1% of it in games, and in some actually surpasses it. This is stock vs. stock comparison. Take a look at the comparisons here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-fr... The 965 would best be compared with the 980, just realize it isn't quite as fast. However, there isn't any reason to spend the extra money on the 6300 for the little performance difference.

Here is a comparison of the 760 I listed against a stock 7870. http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/57453-evga-gefor... Just keep in mind the Ghz editions are a little faster than stock 7870's. The 660ti isn't bad though, but I'd rather spend the extra 40 bucks for the 760.


I believe I will be going with the 760 you suggested as well as the processor you suggested, unless the 980 is better than the 965 enough to make a difference?

Also, is the general consensus that the motherboard you picked out it a good one for the job? Good for gaming?
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July 8, 2013 6:45:51 AM

AsRock makes good motherboards, so I wouldn't worry about that.

The 980 is better than the 965, but, the problem is finding one to buy. You can still get the 965 online, new, though. Also, the 980 would be more expensive and not worth the price premium. Get the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo and overclock the 965 when you can. You'll be able to hit at least 3.8ghz if not 3.9ghz easily and running stable. It's super simple for that mild of an overclock too.
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July 8, 2013 7:03:47 AM

It's over budget but if you could push to it this would be a great build.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($265.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $657.60
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-08 10:08 EDT-0400)
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July 8, 2013 7:26:41 AM

SamGriffiths said:
It's over budget but if you could push to it this would be a great build.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($265.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $657.60
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-08 10:08 EDT-0400)


Can anyone offer and pros/cons to these parts as opposed to the ones suggested in the first answer? I noticed the gfx card is the same essentially. What about the mobo and CPU? And great differences?
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July 8, 2013 7:47:07 AM

bammeh said:
SamGriffiths said:
It's over budget but if you could push to it this would be a great build.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($265.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $657.60
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-08 10:08 EDT-0400)


Can anyone offer and pros/cons to these parts as opposed to the ones suggested in the first answer? I noticed the gfx card is the same essentially. What about the mobo and CPU? And great differences?


Well it depends what you put it against.
Pros:
-Faster GPU (Benchmarks http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_760...)
-Higher quality PSU
-Better RAM
-Slightly better CPU
-Slightly better Case
Cons:
-Worse Mobo
-No after market CPU cooler
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July 8, 2013 7:48:47 AM

SamGriffiths said:
bammeh said:
SamGriffiths said:
It's over budget but if you could push to it this would be a great build.

Spoiler
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($265.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $657.60
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-08 10:08 EDT-0400)


Can anyone offer and pros/cons to these parts as opposed to the ones suggested in the first answer? I noticed the gfx card is the same essentially. What about the mobo and CPU? And great differences?


Well it depends what you put it against.
Pros:
-Faster GPU
-Higher quality PSU
-Better RAM
-Slightly better CPU
-Slightly better Case
Cons:
-Worse Mobo
-No after market CPU cooler


Well, pitting what you suggest against what swordkd suggested.
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July 8, 2013 7:55:53 AM

Okay,
-Better CPU
-Slightly Better case
-Slightly better GPU and a lot quiter

-Equal RAM
-Equal PSU
-Equal HDD

-Worse motherboard
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July 8, 2013 9:03:24 AM

SamGriffiths said:
Okay,
-Better CPU
-Slightly Better case
-Slightly better GPU and a lot quiter

-Equal RAM
-Equal PSU
-Equal HDD

-Worse motherboard


Hmm, I might stick with his mobo and look into your CPU and GPU
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July 8, 2013 9:10:26 AM

bammeh said:
SamGriffiths said:
Okay,
-Better CPU
-Slightly Better case
-Slightly better GPU and a lot quiter

-Equal RAM
-Equal PSU
-Equal HDD

-Worse motherboard


Hmm, I might stick with his mobo and look into your CPU and GPU


Best of both worlds =P
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July 8, 2013 9:11:55 AM

SamGriffiths said:
bammeh said:
SamGriffiths said:
Okay,
-Better CPU
-Slightly Better case
-Slightly better GPU and a lot quiter

-Equal RAM
-Equal PSU
-Equal HDD

-Worse motherboard


Hmm, I might stick with his mobo and look into your CPU and GPU


Best of both worlds =P


So really the only pro to the gpu is the sound?

Do you happen to have benchmarks of your CPU?
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July 8, 2013 9:18:08 AM

bammeh said:
SamGriffiths said:
bammeh said:
SamGriffiths said:
Okay,
-Better CPU
-Slightly Better case
-Slightly better GPU and a lot quiter

-Equal RAM
-Equal PSU
-Equal HDD

-Worse motherboard


Hmm, I might stick with his mobo and look into your CPU and GPU


Best of both worlds =P


So really the only pro to the gpu is the sound?

Do you happen to have benchmarks of your CPU?


http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=102
It's not much faster but it slightly faster. The GPU it's cooler and quieter which means you can overclock it higher.
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July 8, 2013 10:17:10 AM

SamGriffiths said:
bammeh said:
SamGriffiths said:
bammeh said:
SamGriffiths said:
Okay,
-Better CPU
-Slightly Better case
-Slightly better GPU and a lot quiter

-Equal RAM
-Equal PSU
-Equal HDD

-Worse motherboard


Hmm, I might stick with his mobo and look into your CPU and GPU


Best of both worlds =P


So really the only pro to the gpu is the sound?

Do you happen to have benchmarks of your CPU?


http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=102
It's not much faster but it slightly faster. The GPU it's cooler and quieter which means you can overclock it higher.


I might be able to swing that since I won't be getting the 1 TB HDD yet.
What about the GPU. Any vast differences in comparisons?
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July 8, 2013 10:21:37 AM

Depending on where you look it's about 5-10dbA quieter and about 20% cooler than the reference cooled card.
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July 8, 2013 11:02:36 AM

According to the following article, the FX-6300 performs significantly better than the 965 and consumes less energy, while having more cores, as well as more cache.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-Phenom-II-X4-965-vs-AMD-FX-...

Do you honestly think the extra $30 is going to be $30 well spent? Will it be worth it and make a difference with its 6 cores, as opposed to 4, larger cache, less power consumption, and better benchmark scores?
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July 8, 2013 11:40:23 AM

Look at gaming benchmarks. If your main use of the pc is going to be games, there isn't much difference in FPS between the two. Other tasks the 6300 performs better, but not much of a difference in games.

That eVGA card isn't a reference cooled design either. It's the ACX version. Well, it was supposed to be. I clickied the wrong version.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($90.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston T1 Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $617.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-08 14:37 EDT-0400)


Updated to the ACX version of the GPU for the same price.
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July 8, 2013 11:52:14 AM

Swordkd said:
Look at gaming benchmarks. If your main use of the pc is going to be games, there isn't much difference in FPS between the two. Other tasks the 6300 performs better, but not much of a difference in games.

That eVGA card isn't a reference cooled design either. It's the ACX version. Well, it was supposed to be. I clickied the wrong version.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($90.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston T1 Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $617.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-08 14:37 EDT-0400)


Updated to the ACX version of the GPU for the same price.


My local MicroCenter has the CPU for $79.99. Im just not sure if the lack of 2 cores will prohibit me down the line if I ever do want to do more than gaming. Nothing too intensive like video editing or anything.

So, you're saying that for gaming, it wont make a huge difference if I get the 6300?
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July 8, 2013 12:05:03 PM

I linked a Toms article earlier. Look at the comparison between the 6300fx and the 980. Most games there isn't much of a difference. Remember that the 980 is a bit faster than the 965. There are some games that are a bigger difference. WoW is one such game. However running a 760 video card, you would be hard pressed to notice a difference in FPS between the two CPU's.
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July 8, 2013 12:34:04 PM

If I can get a GeForce GTX 660 Ti for $219 as opposed to the 760, which would you go for?
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July 8, 2013 1:37:54 PM

bammeh said:
If I can get a GeForce GTX 660 Ti for $219 as opposed to the 760, which would you go for?


760 is about 9% faster at 1080p, I assume you're running at 1080p right?

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July 8, 2013 2:12:59 PM

SamGriffiths said:
bammeh said:
If I can get a GeForce GTX 660 Ti for $219 as opposed to the 760, which would you go for?


760 is about 9% faster at 1080p, I assume you're running at 1080p right?



I mean the GTX 760 and the GTX 660 Ti
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July 8, 2013 2:40:03 PM

The 660 TI is on that list =P.
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July 8, 2013 2:48:05 PM

SamGriffiths said:
The 660 TI is on that list =P.


Haha sorry I saw it after.

So, in your opinion:
660 ti for $219 refurbished or gtx 760 for $269 new?
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July 8, 2013 3:53:08 PM

bammeh said:
SamGriffiths said:
The 660 TI is on that list =P.


Haha sorry I saw it after.

So, in your opinion:
660 ti for $219 refurbished or gtx 760 for $269 new?


I wouldn't get a refurbished card, but that's just me.
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July 8, 2013 5:02:16 PM

I decided to just go with the GTX 760 with over clock :) 
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July 8, 2013 6:08:01 PM

Okay, so. I bought this Motherboard:

http://microcenter.com/product/382952/970_Extreme4_Sock...

Can you tell me if this will be sufficient?

I was thinking about going up to a AsRock 990FX Extreme 4 for $139. Would there be any benefits to it over the AsRock 970 Extreme 4 I already purchased for $99?
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Here are the parts I have left to buy:

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ryanfree/saved/1Vbs

You still suggest that processor right? I'm about to purchase this Graphics card:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's the one you suggested, I believe. With the ACX Cooler and Overclocking.

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Also, the case is only $40 at my local microcenter, although the only one in stock is damaged, so I am waiting on another shipment.
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Can you please check the parts on that list and make sure they're going to be the best and compatible with the mobo while giving me great performance?
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Also, I can;t find that AMD Phenom II x4 965 CPU for less than $100 (amazon says $84, but it's showing as $98 or $85-$90 for a USED one. Which I want to avoid.). Would it be to my benefit to go ahead and just get the 6300 for $119 from microcenter that way I dont have to wait for it to ship? If you say yes, care to tell me exactly why? If you say yes, would you suggest I toss in the extra $10 and get the FX6350 for $129? I've read it's not good for OC though. The 6300 is better for OC. The FX6350 specs are here:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd6350frhkbox
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Also, on the Power supply, I'd be waiting a week for it to get here. Is there any ones that will equal it for the same price I could probably pick up at MicroCenter?
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Thank you for all your help, by the way Swordkd and other contributors.
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July 8, 2013 7:50:12 PM

I wouldn't buy the 965 if the price ends up being higher than 95 for that Cpu. At that point, just get the 6300fx for 120 when you walk into the Microcenter. The 970 chipset isn't a bad one, it's just not quite as robust as the 990fx. Overclocking options, general quality of components used on the board, etc. It's a great way to save money though. What Ram did you buy or decide on? Definitely get the PSU before that sale ends, because I think we've all agreed that it's the best option. I'm not seeing anything at Microcenter to rival that PSU unless you want to spend 90 dollars with a 20 dollar MiR for this: http://www.microcenter.com/product/380192/Silencer_Mk_I...
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July 8, 2013 7:55:42 PM

Swordkd said:
I wouldn't buy the 965 if the price ends up being higher than 95 for that Cpu. At that point, just get the 6300fx for 120 when you walk into the Microcenter. The 970 chipset isn't a bad one, it's just not quite as robust as the 990fx. Overclocking options, general quality of components used on the board, etc. It's a great way to save money though. What Ram did you buy or decide on? Definitely get the PSU before that sale ends, because I think we've all agreed that it's the best option.


alright, I'll order the Graphics card from newegg right now, and get the CPU tomorrow at Microcenter. I'm trying to find some cheaper RAM. But, I may end up going with the 8GB you suggested.

So, If I have the money, should I spring for the 990fx as opposed to the 970?

I'll just order te $45 one :p 
Edit: Decided to get it from Newegg for $69.99 before the MiR, with free 2 day shipping. NCIX wants $10 for shipping, lol. I'll get it faster, only sacrificing about $5.
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July 8, 2013 8:16:43 PM

I'd just get this from Microcenter now: http://www.microcenter.com/product/382101/Ballistix_Spo...(PC3-12800)_CL9_Dual_Channel_Desktop_Memory_Kit_(Two_4GB_Memory_Modules) There aren't any great deals atm. That's what happens though, we'll see a great deal and for a couple of days it'll get recommended in nearly every build. And no, the 970 will do just fine. No need to spend the extra money.
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July 8, 2013 8:25:50 PM

Swordkd said:
I'd just get this from Microcenter now: http://www.microcenter.com/product/382101/Ballistix_Spo...(PC3-12800)_CL9_Dual_Channel_Desktop_Memory_Kit_(Two_4GB_Memory_Modules) There aren't any great deals atm. That's what happens though, we'll see a great deal and for a couple of days it'll get recommended in nearly every build. And no, the 970 will do just fine. No need to spend the extra money.


Awesome. So far, I've spent $105 on the Mobo, and $329 on the GPU and PSU together.
I have $241 left. I just need a case ($40), CPU($119) and RAM. I have the GPU, PSU, and Mobo. I'm not sure I'll be able to swing that RAM until later this week when I get paid :(  That's okay, though because I wont get the GPU or PSU for 2-3 days.
Is this RAM sufficient for $60?: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-khx1333c9d...
Or Throw in $18, and get 12GB for $78?:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-kvr1333d3n...

This is the case I was going to get:

http://www.microcenter.com/product/415178/Shinobi_ATX_M...

Is it okay?
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July 8, 2013 8:39:26 PM

It'll work. Good price though. How do you feel about: http://www.microcenter.com/product/408591/GX-700_Rugged... Same price, but has better cable management. You can also read reviews on it now because it just came out.

Meh, just saw the color, but it has really good cooling options and isn't a badly designed case. Just the colors are pretty meh.
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July 8, 2013 8:42:10 PM

Swordkd said:
It'll work. Good price though. How do you feel about: http://www.microcenter.com/product/408591/GX-700_Rugged... Same price, but has better cable management. You can also read reviews on it now because it just came out.

Meh, just saw the color, but it has really good cooling options and isn't a badly designed case. Just the colors are pretty meh.


Eh, it's REALLY bad designed haha. Pretty ugly colors. If you had to choose, would you choose mine or yours? I'm just afraid the one I chose won't keep it cool enough :( 

Also, can you read what I wrote in my last post about the RAM? 12GB for $78 or 8GB for $60?

Here are some other options:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/396099/MSI_IN-623_Ra...

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July 8, 2013 8:59:30 PM

You want to get at least 1600mhz ram. http://www.microcenter.com/product/382101/Ballistix_Spo...(PC3-12800)_CL9_Dual_Channel_Desktop_Memory_Kit_(Two_4GB_Memory_Modules) I saw that the case you linked only has the one exhaust fan. The one review I've found that isn't for the windowed version states that it has the worst thermal result for a gpu that they've found. How about going up to 50 dollars and getting this: http://www.microcenter.com/product/343331/HAF912_Mid_To...
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July 8, 2013 9:03:06 PM

Swordkd said:
Just get the 8gb's of Ram. I saw that the case you linked only has the one exhaust fan. The one review I've found that isn't for the windowed version states that it has the worst thermal result for a gpu that they've found. How about going up to 50 dollars and getting this: http://www.microcenter.com/product/343331/HAF912_Mid_To...


I just wanted to get one with a USB 3.0 port on the front...although I'm not REALLY sure if I'll need USB 3.0? Like, is it worth it?

I like the case I've chosen because it isn't sophisticated looking. It's simple. But, if it has bad ventilation...is there anyway I can fix that? Add some fans and a CPU cooler? It has about 6 slots for fans. 'I've pretty much fallen in love with the case I've chosen :(  lol
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July 8, 2013 9:14:22 PM

Nevermind. Yes, buy some extra case fans and you'll be ok. You can have one more front intake 120mm, and 2 top 120/140mm fans added as well. that will help out immensely. For now I'd just buy one 140mm fan for the top. This is for the BitFenix Shinobi.
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July 8, 2013 9:20:13 PM

Awesome. I'll go ahead and get the case. Should it pose any problems, there is a 30 day return policy.

So, all I need is the RAM. And you suggested the $67 RAM, correct?
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July 8, 2013 9:24:06 PM

Yes. I'm actually using a 1.35v version of that same ram. It is nice because it's super low profile means that any cpu cooler you want to use is compatible with it. Granted, the Hyper 212 Evo doesn't have the problem with tall ram heatsinks that say the Noctua NH-U14 does, it's still nice to know you have the option of any cooler.
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July 8, 2013 9:27:57 PM

So remember, whenever you can, buy a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo cooler and overclock that Cpu. If temps are a problem, buy another 140mm Case fan. And enjoy your build. Watch some videos on putting a PC together to understand what they mean by "cable management" and you'll end up with a nice, clean looking system. Even if you can't see it, if there aren't any cables cluttering up the inside you'll get better airflow and lower temps.
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July 9, 2013 5:53:18 AM

@Swordkd It's nice to help someone out and not have to argue with other people over every little thing, someone who knows what they're talking about and will look at benchmarks. The techpowerup benchmarks, to me it looks like the EVGA is just overclocked higher and the coolers preform the same, because there's only 5dbA and 3% performance at 1080p between them.

@bammeh Have fun building it, Sword is right, get a 212 Evo as soon as you can. Out of interest what 760 did you get?
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July 9, 2013 6:16:53 AM

Thanks so much for both of your help. I wish I could choose two best answers :/ 
But, as soon as I get home I will pick the best answer and continue to update this with my build progress :) 

I got th EVGA over clocked 760 :) 
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July 9, 2013 6:23:32 AM

bammeh said:
Thanks so much for both of your help. I wish I could choose two best answers :/ 
But, as soon as I get home I will pick the best answer and continue to update this with my build progress :) 

I got th EVGA over clocked 760 :) 


Pick him as best answer, he's put more time into this thread. I don't know if it's a done thing on this forum but if you want to make a thread and upload some pictures that would be cool.

Also if you do have to send that card back for what ever reason, I've been looking at all the other coolers available on the 760 and the MSI Gaming TwinFrozr OC has tempritures within 3C of the other two but it's 6dbA quieter.
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July 9, 2013 12:54:17 PM

SamGriffiths said:
bammeh said:
Thanks so much for both of your help. I wish I could choose two best answers :/ 
But, as soon as I get home I will pick the best answer and continue to update this with my build progress :) 

I got th EVGA over clocked 760 :) 


Pick him as best answer, he's put more time into this thread. I don't know if it's a done thing on this forum but if you want to make a thread and upload some pictures that would be cool.

Also if you do have to send that card back for what ever reason, I've been looking at all the other coolers available on the 760 and the MSI Gaming TwinFrozr OC has tempritures within 3C of the other two but it's 6dbA quieter.


Hopefully I won't have to send it back and I can be happy with it :)  noise isn't too much of a problem really. But thank you! And thank you for selecting swordkd as best answer for me!
Hopefully my parts arrive in 2 days, I can go get the case and CPU and get this started
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