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July 8, 2013 8:17:52 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: NOW!!!!!! OK, very soon anyways, sorry for yelling.....

Budget Range: I'd like to keep it <$2,500, but can spend a little more if necessary.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, web surfing

Are you buying a monitor: Yes, approximately 27"

Parts to Upgrade: Need it all

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: No real preferences, newegg, tiger, amazon likely ok.

Location: City, State/Region, Country - CT, USA

Parts Preferences: probably prefer Intel, though I don't really know why

Overclocking: Maybe, I've never done it

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe, in the future

Your Monitor Resolution: the better the better

Additional Comments: Need high frames for GTA4 and hopefully GTA5

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: current system is old and wasn't built for gaming

Include a list of any parts you have already selected with descriptively labeled links for parts. Pretty much need everything

Although this is my first ever build, I have changed or added drives, RAM, peripheral cards, etc., in the past.

My research to date with all of the many different threads I've read has been a little overwhelming to keep it all straight. I'd like it to suit me me for at least 3 years or so.

Thanks in advance for any help you may afford me.
July 8, 2013 8:34:18 AM

MalenskiiPC said:
This would be an AMAZING system for <$2,500 :D 
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1esSN


That looks pretty cool, thanks.

What would be the advantage of that system over the one I was looking to have built for me:

(Meant to add this in original post)

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/cart/showcart.aspx?ref=upd

Configuration

*BASE_PRICE: [+1220]
CAS: * Azza Genesis 9000 Full Tower Gaming Case w/ 2 x 230mm fans, 4x Easy Swap HDD, Dual Power Supply Support, & front USB 3.0 Port (Black Color)
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
COOLANT: Standard Coolant
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3930K Six-Core 3.20 GHz 12MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011 (All Venom OC Certified) [+336]
CS_FAN: Default case fans
ENGRAVING: None
FA_HDD: Vigor iSURF II Hard Disk Drive Cooling System [+21] (1 x System)
FAN: Cooler Master Seidon 120M Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
HDD: 2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD1: AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard [+5]
MEMORY: 16GB (4GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Quad Channel Memory (Patriot Viper III [+29])
MONITOR: * 27" Widescreen 1920x1080 ASUS VE278Q Black 2ms Backlight LCD Display w/ Built-in Speaker, DVI, & HDMI-Input [+329]
MOTHERBOARD: (SLI/CrossFireX Support) MSI X79A-GD45 Plus Intel X79 Chipset Quad Channel DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ Winki 3, OC Genie II, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 3 Gen3 PCIe X16 & 4 PCIe X1
MOUSE1: AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge [+4]
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
OS: Microsoft® Windows 8 Pro (64-bit Edition) [+31]
OVERCLOCK: Pro OC (Performance Overclock 10% or more) [+19]
POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Certified Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready
RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
TUNING: Intel® Core™ i7-3930K Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel [+39]
VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+262] (Major Brand Powered by AMD)
_PRICE: (+2295)
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July 8, 2013 8:36:47 AM

heres how i would do it
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1et3a

i personally chose not to use a 1440p panel in the build but then if you want one, the pb278q or any panel on ebay will suit you fine

if you need a keyboard, i can suggest a set for you
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July 8, 2013 8:39:19 AM

shockhazard said:
Approximate Purchase Date: NOW!!!!!! OK, very soon anyways, sorry for yelling.....

Budget Range: I'd like to keep it <$2,500, but can spend a little more if necessary.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, web surfing

Are you buying a monitor: Yes, approximately 27"

Parts to Upgrade: Need it all

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: No real preferences, newegg, tiger, amazon likely ok.

Location: City, State/Region, Country - CT, USA

Parts Preferences: probably prefer Intel, though I don't really know why

Overclocking: Maybe, I've never done it

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe, in the future

Your Monitor Resolution: the better the better

Additional Comments: Need high frames for GTA4 and hopefully GTA5

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: current system is old and wasn't built for gaming

Include a list of any parts you have already selected with descriptively labeled links for parts. Pretty much need everything

Although this is my first ever build, I have changed or added drives, RAM, peripheral cards, etc., in the past.

My research to date with all of the many different threads I've read has been a little overwhelming to keep it all straight. I'd like it to suit me me for at least 3 years or so.

Thanks in advance for any help you may afford me.


What about this build....Since you had the budget I included high end parts like a large ssd, high resolution monitor, large PSU incase you SLI in future, a full tour case for good air flow and its still within your budget...
I have also included an i7 because future games will use upto 8 threads (since consoles are now eight threaded) so the i7 will come in handy at that time.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1et9S
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July 8, 2013 9:32:12 AM

shockhazard said:
MalenskiiPC said:
This would be an AMAZING system for <$2,500 :D 
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1esSN


That looks pretty cool, thanks.

What would be the advantage of that system over the one I was looking to have built for me:

(Meant to add this in original post)

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/cart/showcart.aspx?ref=upd

Configuration

*BASE_PRICE: [+1220]
CAS: * Azza Genesis 9000 Full Tower Gaming Case w/ 2 x 230mm fans, 4x Easy Swap HDD, Dual Power Supply Support, & front USB 3.0 Port (Black Color)
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
COOLANT: Standard Coolant
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3930K Six-Core 3.20 GHz 12MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011 (All Venom OC Certified) [+336]
CS_FAN: Default case fans
ENGRAVING: None
FA_HDD: Vigor iSURF II Hard Disk Drive Cooling System [+21] (1 x System)
FAN: Cooler Master Seidon 120M Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
HDD: 2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD1: AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard [+5]
MEMORY: 16GB (4GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Quad Channel Memory (Patriot Viper III [+29])
MONITOR: * 27" Widescreen 1920x1080 ASUS VE278Q Black 2ms Backlight LCD Display w/ Built-in Speaker, DVI, & HDMI-Input [+329]
MOTHERBOARD: (SLI/CrossFireX Support) MSI X79A-GD45 Plus Intel X79 Chipset Quad Channel DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ Winki 3, OC Genie II, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 3 Gen3 PCIe X16 & 4 PCIe X1
MOUSE1: AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge [+4]
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
OS: Microsoft® Windows 8 Pro (64-bit Edition) [+31]
OVERCLOCK: Pro OC (Performance Overclock 10% or more) [+19]
POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Certified Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready
RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
TUNING: Intel® Core™ i7-3930K Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel [+39]
VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+262] (Major Brand Powered by AMD)
_PRICE: (+2295)
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Not as good GPU, No SSD, 500r is a better case, Better cooler, Windows 7 is better for desktop, Better motheboard. That is basically a good CPU and GPU and everything else is average. Build your own, it's more fun. :D 
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July 8, 2013 2:04:04 PM

Ok, appreciate the recommendations!

May tweek this a bit still, but this likely what I'll go with:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1eyHE

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($559.99 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme6 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($228.49 @ Newegg)

Memory: Patriot Viper 3 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($124.59 @ Amazon)

Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($124.99 @ NCIX US)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($648.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.99 @ Newegg)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)

Monitor: Asus VE278Q 27.0" Monitor ($247.58 @ Newegg)

Total: $2419.55
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-08 17:00 EDT-0400)

If you think I'm making a mistake anywhere just say so.
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a b 4 Gaming
July 8, 2013 3:05:34 PM

-i7s are not for gaming and especially x79. it would be stupid to get x79 for gaming and it would result in lower performance
-its not a editing machine. you will never need 16gb of ram
-spend 50 dollars more and you get double the capacity. there is no reason to pick up a barely faster drive that has half the capacity over a drive with double the capacity
-the fractal arc mdi r2 is a much better case. its built better, cabling space is about double of that of the corsair, and the psu grommet is much easier to work with
-you will first of all want 850w to do SLI and as for the psu selection, the xfx 850w is a better option. it has all black cables and a full modular design
-DO NOT get a blu-ray drive if you are not to watch blu-rays
-that monitor has a very low resolution in porportion to the screen size. if you must go with a 27 inch panel, get a pb278q or get a 1440p panel from ebay. both are great. just that the ebay options have bad stands and you may want to consider a aftermarket stand. they use VESA mounts
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a b 4 Gaming
July 8, 2013 3:05:54 PM

if you are going to stick to 1080p, forget about any monitor above 23 inches
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a b 4 Gaming
July 8, 2013 4:41:37 PM

See my build, I've included an i7 (4770k), 250 gb ssd, 1440p panel, 850W PSU (Seasonic!!!), a 780 and a full ATX tower...
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a b 4 Gaming
July 8, 2013 4:45:05 PM

an i7 wont do you any good in gaming nor will a full tower provide much more to a mid-tower that has the same cabling room and features
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a b 4 Gaming
July 8, 2013 5:25:21 PM

TheBigTroll said:
an i7 wont do you any good in gaming nor will a full tower provide much more to a mid-tower that has the same cabling room and features


The upcoming consoles will be eight threaded so expect the console ported games to be heavily threaded as well just like crysis 3. So then the i7s and the fx 8350s will have a huge advantage over the i5s and the 6300s.
I've included a full tower since he had the budget plus it provides good airflow....
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a b 4 Gaming
July 8, 2013 6:20:05 PM

Hey check this build my friend
its around $2400.

http://pcpartpicker.com/b/DyQ
CPU

Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core
$279.99 Microcenter (Override)
CPU Cooler

Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid
$109.99 Newegg
Motherboard

Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150
$149.99 Newegg
Memory

Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600
$72.39 Amazon
Storage

Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" SSD
$219.99 NCIX US

Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM
$155.99 Amazon
Video Card

MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB
$454.98 SuperBiiz
Case

Cooler Master Storm Stryker (White) ATX Full Tower
$149.99 Microcenter
Power Supply

SeaSonic 850W ATX12V / EPS12V
$136.50 Newegg
Optical Drive

Asus DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS DVD/CD Writer
$27.98 Outlet PC
Operating System

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)
$89.98 Outlet PC
Monitor

Asus PB278Q 27.0"
$554.10 Amazon
Keyboard

Logitech MX 5500 Revolution w/Laser Mouse
Total: $2401.87

I don't think gtx 780 is a smart choice. It is too costly for its performance. Go with gtx 770 and it is much cheper than gtx 780 and its sli performance is better than gtx titan bit price will be less than one titan card.
Onething more you can go with cpu from any other website if there is no microcentre then it will under ur budget.
I hope it helps.
Thank you.
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July 8, 2013 7:23:41 PM

Aarrrgh, I shoulda known this wouldn't be easy!:D 

Looks like I have much more research to do.

I guess I figured with the i7 I'd be futureproofing a little bit more.

I wondered if the 1920x1080 resolution was a bit low for that size screen, but figured it was alright as that seems to be the res. for just about all sizes of large full HD tv's. So much to learn!

It just gets confusing sometimes with the conflicting opinions, but I truly appreciate people taking the time to give me theirs!.

Thanks.
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July 9, 2013 4:11:41 AM

ayushde said:
TheBigTroll said:
an i7 wont do you any good in gaming nor will a full tower provide much more to a mid-tower that has the same cabling room and features


The upcoming consoles will be eight threaded so expect the console ported games to be heavily threaded as well just like crysis 3. So then the i7s and the fx 8350s will have a huge advantage over the i5s and the 6300s.
I've included a full tower since he had the budget plus it provides good airflow....


yes, but the difference you are looking at is still less than 5 fps. by the time it makes a huge difference, you have already upgraded to somethiing that is more modern

a mid-tower provides just as good airflow
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a b 4 Gaming
July 9, 2013 4:14:01 AM

shockhazard said:
Aarrrgh, I shoulda known this wouldn't be easy!:D 

Looks like I have much more research to do.

I guess I figured with the i7 I'd be futureproofing a little bit more.

I wondered if the 1920x1080 resolution was a bit low for that size screen, but figured it was alright as that seems to be the res. for just about all sizes of large full HD tv's. So much to learn!

It just gets confusing sometimes with the conflicting opinions, but I truly appreciate people taking the time to give me theirs!.

Thanks.


there is no way to futureproof. its impossible and its a total waste of time. buy what you need now, not what you think you need

if you are getting 1080p, get a panel that is under 23 inches. anything above that is a waste of time. TVs and monitors arent alike in the sense you are way closer to the monitor than you are to a TV, therefore pixel density must be higher so that you dont see them
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July 9, 2013 7:18:14 AM

TheBigTroll,

Thank you for not only what to get, but your explanations as to why!

Maybe I'm a little too worried as to what GTA 5 will require.
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