Did i damage this?

Steve Corns

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So i have an i5-3350p that i just got and installed in a MSI H61M-P31/W8 This isnt the first computer ive built, BUT it is the first i5 series. Reading the directions that came with cpu installed the cpu in the correct socket motherboard. The computer ran for about 4 days then suddenly shut off and wouldnt come back up for like x100 times of clicking the on switch then it would. Though it would only stay on for a couple of seconds, I have extra ddr3 ram so i swapped that into the machine, tried an additional power supply i had, I swapped out my EVGA 670 back to my 640 and it did the same thing. So i down to two things did i damage the CPU or could it just be the motherboard. I sent in a rma for the motherboard with new egg but here is a picture of the cpu did i do something wrong?

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Those aren't anything to worry about. The integrated heat spreader (the metal cap on the CPU) is made of aluminum, which is malleable. If you put the CPU into the socket and use the latch, you'll notice there are 2 pressure points that makes contact along those outside areas of the heat spreader. They'll sometimes make a small dent, but it shouldn't worsen, and it isn't important. Every time you re-install that CPU, the notches will line up again with the socket's pressure plate, so it is just wear and tear, if you want to think of it that way. Nothing to worry about.

Given your symptom though, I'd look into the PSU as the culprit first.
If your PC was running for 4 days and didn't suffer any mechanical damage in the mean time then I highly doubt that the CPU itself was the source of the failure. A PSU failure can damage components though, and installing a new PSU afterward may not bring them back to life.
 

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Those aren't anything to worry about. The integrated heat spreader (the metal cap on the CPU) is made of aluminum, which is malleable. If you put the CPU into the socket and use the latch, you'll notice there are 2 pressure points that makes contact along those outside areas of the heat spreader. They'll sometimes make a small dent, but it shouldn't worsen, and it isn't important. Every time you re-install that CPU, the notches will line up again with the socket's pressure plate, so it is just wear and tear, if you want to think of it that way. Nothing to worry about.

Given your symptom though, I'd look into the PSU as the culprit first.
 
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That paper clip test only tells you that it is working while it is not loaded. When it is loaded, the paper clip test can't tell you anything.

That aside, wait until you got your mobo back, that might have been it.
 

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Okay so i got a new mother board, i ended up doing a refund and getting a ASRock H77 the computer ran solid for 4 days again then i started having issues. This time windows started shutting it self down... then i started having power issues for a good hour i couldnt get anything of PSU i would click the power button then nothing... i waiting till this morning and its been on all day and i played battlefield on ultra (my video card is a EVGA 670) no issue... Still think its a fault PSU?
 

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You might have an issue with your PSU then. It could be mis-behaving intermittently. Do you have another PSU on hand to diagnose ?
 

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Okay so i ordered another PSU and it got here today. After playing battlefield 3 for 30 mins windows shut down on me again. Now my computer isnt starting again... just the fans power on and then off. Ive replaced the motherboard/videocard/powersupply/ram. so im down to what? Bad ground and or bad cpu? =(
 


What PSU did you order?
 


Neither Thermaltake nor Rosewill are top of the line, but they're generally far from the worst. I'm not sure what else it could be
 
It's your motherboard. I have very little doubt about that. The first time I built a computer something similar happened and it was the motherboard. I RMA'd the motherboard and the seller swore that the motherboard was working when he tested it. Probably so he could get the restock fee. This was on ebay BTW. And then when I got the new motherboard it worked like magic. Imagine that. Well, anyway... I'm 99.999999999999% sure that it's your motherboard.
 

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Can you post temperatures while the computer is working ? Try using HWMonitor or similar. Can you make sure the CPU's cooler is attached sturdily ? Sometimes with the Intel push-pin coolers, they can come off or be attached loosely, especially if you rotated the leg pins.
 

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30-36c the cooler is on tight, and i think i might have solved my issue, it turns out that the power button on the case might be shorting out. I unplug it from the motherboard and jump it with a paperclip so far my computer has been running since 10pm last night
 

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Wow! That's good to hear. This is only the 2nd time I have come across a power button issue, but it DOES happen!
 

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So my computer has been running since my last post with no issues, the final issues WAS the power button on the case. Hope this helps someone in the future


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