Really need some advice

Zenith808-1346869 · Jul 9, 2013

Budget: 1500 MAX!
Purpose: Game 1080p on Ultra to High settings for next 2-4 years & Streaming
Specs: I would like to stick with Intel and nvidia
OS: An OS must be included in the budget
Current Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1eLxB

The problem that I am having is that I have a HD tv with a 5ms response time. I am not sure if I should use some of that 1500 to get a monitor. If I decide to do that then I would drop the 780 and get the 770. I have also been told the 780 has a bad price performance.
What would you guys do with this budget?

jinayhvora · Jul 9, 2013

good build, well balanced, get a Z87 board since u've chosen an overclockable CPU, also i would recommend 770 over a 780, better price/performance, and u can add another in SLI in the future, ur PSU will be up to it

Zenith808-1346869 · Jul 9, 2013

jinayhvora :

I was thinking the same about sli 760 but someone told me not to because sli runs into a lot of problems. He gave me this list.

1) microstutter is very real. look it up on youtube, and check it out to see if you can live with that in every title you play
2) some games are not compatible with SLi
3) most Dx9 titles simply don't work (or work poorly) with SLi
4) Temp, Noise, & Power Consumption are all high in this type of setup.
5) SLi doesn't share Vram. If your card has 2gb, and the other has 2gb, your combined available gpu ram is NOT 4gb, but 2GB. In short all the stuff loaded into vram on one card is perfectly mirrored onto the other. The result is your card will certainly be more Ram limited then a high end gpu
with more actual ram on it's board.

Is this all true? If so I am not sure if I would want to sli.

jinayhvora · Jul 9, 2013

that's why i suggested 1 770 for now, hopefully when u feel the need to upgrade most problems will be resolved, also you can disable SLI for using less intensive/DX9 games

Zenith808-1346869 · Jul 9, 2013

jinayhvora :

Will the 770 last me 2 years at least? At settings 1080p Ultra-High?

renz496 · Jul 9, 2013

1) nvidia have been working on problem with micro stuttering for quite sometime. the results is the frame metering technology that came with kepler based cards (600/700 series)

2) the tech is quite mature right now. most triple A title that coming out will have sli support. for titles under nvidia TWIMTBP banner there is a chance the support will come out ahead of game launch. for example mass effect 3 have SLI support almost 3 months ahead before officially launch.

3) for older games that might be the case but for much newer games it will be supported properly. also some dx9 games are not that demanding needing the raw power provided by SLI. so it is not rare not to see such games not supported by SLI. as usual triple A will get the priority. (for example mass effect 2 and 3 is very light on gpu but still got SLI support properly)

4) for power and temps that to be expected. but noise it depends on the gpu cooler. my 660 sli still quiet even fully loaded with fan speed around 60-70%. (running furmark). if you want quiet cooler then you might want to avoid blower type cooler

5) whilst that is true the same still goes for people SLIing /CFing high end cards. that is the limitation to the tech but i dont see that as a con to SLI or Cross Fire.

Zenith808-1346869 · Jul 9, 2013

renz496 :

1) nvidia have been working on problem with micro stuttering for quite sometime. the results is the frame metering technology that came with kepler based cards (600/700 series)

2) the tech is quite mature right now. most triple A title that coming out will have sli support. for titles under nvidia TWIMTBP banner there is a chance the support will come out ahead of game launch. for example mass effect 3 have SLI support almost 3 months ahead before officially launch.

3) for older games that might be the case but for much newer games it will be supported properly. also some dx9 games are not that demanding needing the raw power provided by SLI. so it is not rare not to see such games not supported by SLI. as usual triple A will get the priority. (for example mass effect 2 and 3 is very light on gpu but still got SLI support properly)

4) for power and temps that to be expected. but noise it depends on the gpu cooler. my 660 sli still quiet even fully loaded with fan speed around 60-70%. (running furmark). if you want quiet cooler then you might want to avoid blower type cooler

5) whilst that is true the same still goes for people SLIing /CFing high end cards. that is the limitation to the tech but i dont see that as a con to SLI or Cross Fire.

Ok thanks for the input. I greatly appreciate it!

Zenith808-1346869 · Jul 9, 2013

renz496 :

1) nvidia have been working on problem with micro stuttering for quite sometime. the results is the frame metering technology that came with kepler based cards (600/700 series)

2) the tech is quite mature right now. most triple A title that coming out will have sli support. for titles under nvidia TWIMTBP banner there is a chance the support will come out ahead of game launch. for example mass effect 3 have SLI support almost 3 months ahead before officially launch.

3) for older games that might be the case but for much newer games it will be supported properly. also some dx9 games are not that demanding needing the raw power provided by SLI. so it is not rare not to see such games not supported by SLI. as usual triple A will get the priority. (for example mass effect 2 and 3 is very light on gpu but still got SLI support properly)

4) for power and temps that to be expected. but noise it depends on the gpu cooler. my 660 sli still quiet even fully loaded with fan speed around 60-70%. (running furmark). if you want quiet cooler then you might want to avoid blower type cooler

5) whilst that is true the same still goes for people SLIing /CFing high end cards. that is the limitation to the tech but i dont see that as a con to SLI or Cross Fire.

How "future proof" do you think the 770 is? Will it last me at least 2 years? At 1080p on Ultra to High settings?

renz496 · Jul 9, 2013

it depends on how you like to play your game. there is no doubt there will be a few very demanding title in the future making even the highest performing gpu kneel on its feet. if you like your game on max setting maybe 2years. if you dont mind to turn down the setting just so you can play your games then 3-4 years.

jinayhvora · Jul 9, 2013

renz496 :

+1

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