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July 9, 2013 4:42:02 AM

Hey TomsHardware and its users ive known about this website for some time(long time Lurker) but i always never think about posting but since ive got the time and money to build my own pc(have built PCs before not for personal use) so i have come to the best place to ask my build questions and advice so here it goes

(if this is in the wrong section Sorry)
Approximate Purchase Date: Some time in the next month or 2

Parts that i think should be within the build-PCPartPicker

Main Components that i think would suit what i want it to do

Budget Range: up to $2000, but keep it reasonable im willing to go over budget if I have too


System Usage from Most to Least Important:Gaming,Video Editing, Photoshop :D  and the usual surfing the web and watching videos


Parts Not Required: OS


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Australia Retailers which are cheap and delivery/pickup isnt way overpriced or if you can find the same parts in the USA with decent shipping costs im all open ears


Country: Australia

Parts Preferences:

    Modular PSU

Intel CPU


Overclocking:Yes


SLI or Crossfire: In the Future


Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080-2ms response time


Additional Comments:
This is mainly for a gaming rig which has some awesome cool aesthetic looks and feels
Anything can be Mixed and modified
Dual Monitors one will be plugged into the GPU as to be the gaming one and the other into the Onboard graphics in the Mobo as to do internet browsing,Read Reddit while i wait for games to load and start Playing
I want a Stable Computer nothing that would fall to pieces 6 months from now


Games Wanting to Play:Skyrim, Call of Duty, Crysis, BF3, BF4 when it comes out soon :D , Anything on high or Ultra Settings

Questions:

    Since i live in Australia , do the American PSU work on Australian connections and Volts? are they universal?
    Is there a company which i could send all the items I want to buy from America and they send it to Australia for a Decent Price?
    Do I need to add Anything or take anything away from the current Rig?

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July 9, 2013 4:55:48 AM

We'd be happy to offer suggestions, but given that most of our suggested builds include combos and sales which may not be running next week, much less five months from now, we can't offer you much. A lot of price shifts are going to occur, new parts will be released, and the general face of the market will change. You'd be best off coming back closer to purchase date (ideally within two weeks or so) and asking for advice then.
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July 9, 2013 5:15:54 AM

I just want a broad spectrum of what i could get/build for less than $2000 and its whether or not i can get the parts in Australia for Cheap thats why im asking now since i could be making it next month for all i know its just whether i can set a complete build in rock hard stone as not to have to buy new stuff that was not counted at the start of the build
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July 9, 2013 5:21:41 AM

corruptevil9 said:
I just want a broad spectrum of what i could get/build for less than $2000 and its whether or not i can get the parts in Australia for Cheap thats why im asking now since i could be making it next month for all i know its just whether i can set a complete build in rock hard stone as not to have to buy new stuff that was not counted at the start of the build


In my experience, "Australia" and "cheap" don't tend to go in the same sentence. I've yet to see prices so high that trans-Pacific shipping was cheaper, however.
I can put together a few suggestions based on current prices. There will be a fairly significant delay, however, as I am on the west coast of the USA, it is 5AM, and thus I will need to sleep imminently. If you could give me some price targets, I'll put some suggestions together in the next 12-16 hours.
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July 9, 2013 5:55:04 AM

Australia isnt cheap, but it isnt too expensive.
I'm Australian, I have looked into what it costs to ship parts from the US. Its not worth it, you would probably end up paying half the builds cost in shipping.

Went a bit over budget, but was kind of hard not too considering what you wanted of the build.
PC Part Picker is a bit screwy in Australia, so I ahd to add a lot of custom parts but everything is available through PC Case Gear. Which is the store I recommend you buy through, they generally have the best prices and are the only retailer I haven't had issues with returning faulty components.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($385.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($199.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($175.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($75.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($429.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Plus 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($145.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($105.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Other: Samsung 840 120GB ($110.00)
Other: NZXT Switch 810 ($200.00)
Other: XSPC Raystorm D5 EX360 water-cooling kit ($270.00)
Total: $2093.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-09 22:53 EST+1000)
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July 9, 2013 5:58:41 AM

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In my experience, "Australia" and "cheap" don't tend to go in the same sentence. I've yet to see prices so high that trans-Pacific shipping was cheaper, however.
I can put together a few suggestions based on current prices. There will be a fairly significant delay, however, as I am on the west coast of the USA, it is 5AM, and thus I will need to sleep imminently. If you could give me some price targets, I'll put some suggestions together in the next 12-16 hours.

Yeah Australia and cheap do not go together ive been browsing through a few Australian retailers

    Australian Price(Cheapest so far)
    CPU-($379)
    GPU-($450)
    PC Case-($118)
    SDD-($265)
    HDD-($145)
    MOBO-($145)
    Total-($1502)
    Shipping= $70

    American Price
    CPU-($319)
    GPU-($339)
    PC Case-($98)
    SDD-($220)
    HDD-($140)
    MOBO-($117)
    Total-($1233)
    Shipping= no Idea

Im trying to keep the full system under $2500 the Rig as close to $2000 as the rest will be used on the PSU and Externals e.g Mouse and Keyboard

I Thank you for helping me its just im trying to get what ill be expecting for my price budget and the quality of it
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July 9, 2013 6:21:57 AM

Thanks ManofChalk
But you could save money by not buying the NTXZ 810 for $200 and buying its younger brother the Phantom 410 for $110 and no need for the operating System as i already have one so take away $195 to spend on something else like the SDD or GPU?
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July 9, 2013 6:26:03 AM

What do intend you to put in the custom loop? Because if your wanting to put in a GPU (or two), you will need a large case like the Switch 810 to accommodate the radiator space you will need.

SSD is already in there, and the 7970 is about the best your going to be able to afford. You could get a 780, but in general Nvidia are very over-priced in Australia, a 780 goes for $800 while its $650 in the US.
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July 9, 2013 6:30:23 AM

I could Externally Mount the Radiator to the back of the Case?
But what about the older GTX 670 or 680 and OC it?
Im just flashing around ideas to get the general idea of what can be accomplished within the budget
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July 9, 2013 8:10:30 AM

corruptevil9 said:
I could Externally Mount the Radiator to the back of the Case?
But what about the older GTX 670 or 680 and OC it?
Im just flashing around ideas to get the general idea of what can be accomplished within the budget


You could, but given that the Switch 810 was NZXT's purpose-built liquid cooling case, not using it for a high-budget liquid-cooled build seems ill-advised.

If you're looking to overclock the way that a custom water loop indicates, a 7970 is probably your best bet. The 770 would normally be quite competitive, but between the high markup for nVidia products in Australia and the overclocking potential of the 7970 make it pretty ideal. I suppose that, alternatively, you might wait for the Volcanic Islands (which may be the 8xxx, 9xxx, or some entirely different number series, according to the most recent information I have) to drop, to see how that effects your options.

Edit: Also, as I am unexpectedly still present (insomnia is a lovely thing), I can offer you some alternative options at difference prices, should you wish me to. I'm unlikely to find anything that manofchalk hasn't at $2,000, however, as he is both extremely experienced and an Australian.
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July 9, 2013 5:10:29 PM

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Edit: Also, as I am unexpectedly still present (insomnia is a lovely thing), I can offer you some alternative options at difference prices, should you wish me to. I'm unlikely to find anything that manofchalk hasn't at $2,000, however, as he is both extremely experienced and an Australian.


Tough break with the Insomnia never had it before, thank god i havent.
Well just work off the US Prices and then ill find them in Australia so far its about a $500 gap between USA prices and Australian builds
Just give us any options really im open ears to anything
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July 10, 2013 5:49:31 AM

corruptevil9 said:
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Edit: Also, as I am unexpectedly still present (insomnia is a lovely thing), I can offer you some alternative options at difference prices, should you wish me to. I'm unlikely to find anything that manofchalk hasn't at $2,000, however, as he is both extremely experienced and an Australian.


Tough break with the Insomnia never had it before, thank god i havent.
Well just work off the US Prices and then ill find them in Australia so far its about a $500 gap between USA prices and Australian builds
Just give us any options really im open ears to anything


Insomnia is... I wouldn't call it "not bad", but it's probably the least negative affliction I've experienced. So long as you don't have any scheduled commitments on the following day, it's not a terribly big problem.

I can find my way around Aussie stores, but I'm not sure what price range you'd like me to look in. Honestly, manofchalk seems to have offered an excellent build. I was only offering to find alternatives at different price brackets.
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