Gaming Rig - SLI 770, i5 4670 just a couple of things to sort out

Everest123

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Hi all,
this system is going to be mainly planned to be used for upcoming games on higher end settings (BF4 and Rome 2 Total War at 60+fps). Currently I have 2 1080p monitors but planning to upgrade to 1440s within a year or so. I just have concerns about a couple things:

1. Single 780 vs SLI 770s. I'm really only going to game on one monitor, I believe that the dual 770s offer a better price/performance and I can plan to use them to keep up for at least a couple of years. The only thing is that what kind of issues could I anticipate and whether I should just get a single 780 to bypass the trouble (keep in mind I'm not very technical and would rather keep things simple)

2. Case. I'm looking for a easy to manage case (preferably nice looking). I have read good things about the Define R4 and it looks to meet all my needs; I'm just looking to see if there are other options out there.

All comments are appreciated, Thanks in advance!



Approximate Purchase Date: Within the month

Budget Range: $2500~ After Shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming/VM testing/general media

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: Brand new everything, have 2 Asus VS248 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236153

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg, amazon, ncix

Location: Onatrio, Canada

Parts Preferences: Intel and nVidia

Overclocking: Yes / Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Yes

Your Monitor Resolution:1920x1080

Parts List

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ NCIX)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_RD 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($72.23 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($182.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.79 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($184.75 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($129.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($417.73 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($417.73 @ Newegg Canada)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($150.61 @ DirectCanada)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($19.00 @ Vuugo)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $2129.29
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-10 15:40 EDT-0400)
 
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Yeah sounds to be good enough since you won't be using a lot of hard drives. Two front for intake, one at back and one at top for exhaust.
Sounds to be pretty good enough.

And yes, get Noctua NH-D14 here for the sake of satisfaction. If you are buying such a good system, don't leave that out as it can help you keep things much cooler.

One more thing, Buying an i7 for a 'Gaming' Rig is utter nonsense. The extra L3 cache, HT, etc is not going to come into use. HT utilizing games are not going to increase in numbers since games tend to demand actual cores than virtual ones. For a PC used solely for gaming, get the best i5 you can and use the rest of the extra money for a bigger SSD, better cooling, or heck, even a sound card for crisper...
1) GTX 770 SLI gives you 50% higher frame rates than GTX 780.

GTX 780 has very poor price performance ratio. Two GTX 770s can wipe floor with it.

2) Fractal Design R4 is the best Mid Tower Case you can get. It has the best airflow and cable management possible. Definitely the way to go.

3) Change the cooler to Noctua NH-D14 Cooler. It is the best air cooler out there and supports extreme overclocking. Also its price is similar to the one you selected.

4) Change SSD to Samsung 840 Pro Series 128 / 256 GB due to higher random read / write speeds and higher sequential write speeds. You can use it for caching then too and overall difference would be noticeable.

5) See if you can change motherboard to ASRock Z87 Extreme4 or Extreme6 for better overclocking.
Everything else is awesome and you should be able to max out Battlefield 4 with no problem at all. The system would be extreme.
 

RaisingTheBarHD

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.98 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($103.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($174.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($129.29 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($219.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($649.99 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair C70 Arctic White (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($171.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.73 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $2031.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-10 16:05 EDT-0400)

under your listed budget, personally if you arent doing a dual monitor then you dont need a sli config. so a 780 will easily max out every game max detail and max fps. i would go with a pro ssd since it will be much faster compared to the normal 840. the c70 case looks great, very portable, and the cable management is amazing. Sli does have problems when games usually come out since they are usually optimized for a single gpu so i would take a 780. Also the reason i chose the 3570k is because the newer chip sets dont do much for Pcs and are mainly for laptops/touch screen notebooks. plus you will know that you wont have to worry about any problems with drivers since they are all ready optimized for the 3570k.
 

Everest123

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Thanks for the reply! I will look into those parts you mentioned. Regarding the airflow design, I believe the R4 comes with a front and back fan. I was thinking of adding another front intake (maybe move the hdd slot bays that i won't use for better flow) and installing a top fan for exhaust; so i end up with 2 in and 2 out. Would you say that's a good design or is there a better one?
 
Yeah sounds to be good enough since you won't be using a lot of hard drives. Two front for intake, one at back and one at top for exhaust.
Sounds to be pretty good enough.

And yes, get Noctua NH-D14 here for the sake of satisfaction. If you are buying such a good system, don't leave that out as it can help you keep things much cooler.

One more thing, Buying an i7 for a 'Gaming' Rig is utter nonsense. The extra L3 cache, HT, etc is not going to come into use. HT utilizing games are not going to increase in numbers since games tend to demand actual cores than virtual ones. For a PC used solely for gaming, get the best i5 you can and use the rest of the extra money for a bigger SSD, better cooling, or heck, even a sound card for crisper audio and more FPS in gaming (Since system resources would not be utilized with a Sound Card).
 
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