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July 11, 2013 12:28:16 AM

Heyas, currently I am planning to build a new computer that is capable of running Anime of High 10 Profile(Hi10P) and 1080p 60FPS video quality through MPC-HC/SMPlayer flawlessly(No distortion, video lag, blemishes) on a 1920x1080 resolution.

Although money is not an issue, I would like to know what are the minimum requirements of a computer system is required to achieve the above.

The future of this system will have 3 screens(1920x1080), and although I don't play games, I would like to have that option available, so to set a bar: World of Warcraft 25m Raiding (min. 30 or 60fps during combat on lowest settings) is all I will ever need. On some occasions I do watch 3 Hi10P Anime concurrently, so that's another requirement.

I live in Australia so my stores are Msy, Centre Com, ScorpTec and PcCaseGear. As a result, I may not have access to all brands.

The idea is to build a computer capable of the above without going overboard.

Yet to Acquire, updated with advice given
CPU: Intel i5 4670K ($269.00 Msy/Amazon Unshippable)
CPU Aftermarket Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 ($84.00 Centre Com/Amazon $5+)
MB: Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H ($229.00 Msy)
RAM: Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz LP Vengeance ($89.00 ScorpTec/$80.65 Amazon)
GPU: Asus nVidia GeForce GTX 760 DirectCU II OC 2GB ($319 Centre Com/Amazon Unshippable)
PSU: Silverstone Strider Plus 750W ($145.00 Centre Com/Amazon $1+)
NIC: ASUS PCE-AC66 Dual-Band Wireless-AC1750 Adapter ($108.50 Amazon/$111.00 Msy)

Amazon Exchange Rate US to AUD: $1.13
Shipping & Handing: $50.16

Already have
Case: Corsair 400R
SSD: Intel + Corsair SSDs
Windows 7 Professional + Windows 8 USB Installation

The idea is to build a computer that achieves the requirements without going overboard(e.g. having 16GB of ram when you only need 8GB). So just build what is required, in a way its like building a budget system, but more with requirements in mind than money. I am flexible with the build, so it doesn't matter whether AMD/Intel CPU or ATI/AMD/Nvidia GPU. So if its better value to use an AMD CPU than the Intel CPU then do mention it =)

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Anyone recommend other 750W power supplies, Silverstone Strider Plus 750W has many reviews about fan issues, should I reconsider? Corsair TX-750 750W V2?

Thanks for your advice!

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July 11, 2013 12:52:03 AM

Get a 750w PSU over the CX600m. Also, get a 660 over the 7850. (760 if you can push) Finally, get 1600MHz RAM. If you absolutely NEED to get a Corsair, get the LP version, otherwise the heatspreaders on the RAM will block the CPU cooler.


NOTE: X-Fire is pretty bad right now. SLI is pretty good in comparison.
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July 11, 2013 12:59:09 AM

Thanatos Telos said:
Get a 750w PSU over the CX600m. Also, get a 660 over the 7850. (760 if you can push) Finally, get 1600MHz RAM. If you absolutely NEED to get a Corsair, get the LP version, otherwise the heatspreaders on the RAM will block the CPU cooler.


NOTE: X-Fire is pretty bad right now. SLI is pretty good in comparison.


Thanks for the input, I'll make those changes, I went with the 2133MHz because of the dollar drop in AUD 1600MHz is the same price as 2133MHz. I'll change the RAM to 1600MHz Low Profiles as advised.
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a b 4 Gaming
July 11, 2013 1:07:05 AM

the 750W PSU isn't required unless u wanna SLI, which i take it you don't, so 600 is good enough
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July 11, 2013 1:12:55 AM

jinayhvora said:
the 750W PSU isn't required unless u wanna SLI, which i take it you don't, so 600 is good enough


He does, read the post.

I'd recommend getting cheaper RAM from Crucial or Patriot. That's some REALLY expensive and overpriced RAM.
Also, for 230$, you might as well spend an extra 20$ and get the 760, which is MUCH stronger.
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July 11, 2013 1:20:31 AM

Thanatos Telos said:

I'd recommend getting cheaper RAM from Crucial or Patriot. That's some REALLY expensive and overpriced RAM.
Also, for 230$, you might as well spend an extra 20$ and get the 760, which is MUCH stronger.


Since I live in Australia the price of components cost more along with the dollar drop here, RAM itself went up $20.00 =S. I've added the price of some of the components in the post to give an idea. I'll check out those two RAM brands.

Update:
Patriot RAM:
Patriot Signature 8GB Kit (4Gx2) DDR3-1600 ($76.00)

There's no Crucial RAM from the stores around me.

The brands available: Corsair, G.Skill, Kingston, Patriot, Geil, Strontium and Team Elite.
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July 11, 2013 5:57:04 AM

I think everything fine so far, how's the Motherboard(Asus Z87-C Intel Z87)? From many motherboard posts, it appears ASUS aren't doing too well except for their Z87-PRO for this area. Appears most are leaning towards Gigabyte this time. Should I change this motherboard?

It is a future plan to SLI two GTX 760 and of course overclock the i5 4670K.
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July 11, 2013 7:15:33 AM

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I think everything fine so far, how's the Motherboard(Asus Z87-C Intel Z87)? From many motherboard posts, it appears ASUS aren't doing too well except for their Z87-PRO for this area. Appears most are leaning towards Gigabyte this time. Should I change this motherboard?

It is a future plan to SLI two GTX 760 and of course overclock the i5 4670K.


Get the Gigabyte Sniper 5M motherboard.

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=...

true it is matx , but it is full featured and you just loose 2 slots.

and it supports SLI and has very good onboard sound and LAN.
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July 11, 2013 7:59:13 AM

sna said:

Get the Gigabyte Sniper 5M motherboard.

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=...

true it is matx , but it is full featured and you just loose 2 slots.

and it supports SLI and has very good onboard sound and LAN.


I'll have a look at it :) 

Currently I can obtain it for ($289.00), I have no issues with this and I like what I see on the specs, however, if I buy this, is it considered 'going-overboard' or is it 'perfect for the system'?
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July 11, 2013 8:14:28 AM

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sna said:

Get the Gigabyte Sniper 5M motherboard.

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=...

true it is matx , but it is full featured and you just loose 2 slots.

and it supports SLI and has very good onboard sound and LAN.


I'll have a look at it :) 

Currently I can obtain it for ($289.00), I have no issues with this and I like what I see on the specs, however, if I buy this, is it considered 'going-overboard' or is it 'perfect for the system'?


It is around $200 be careful not to pay more for expensive dealers

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and as you see it has very good onboard sound ... perfect for your Anime machine I guess , unless you are planning on adding a sound card.

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July 11, 2013 8:39:36 AM

sna said:

I around $200 be careful not to pay more for expensive dealers


Yeah, sadly I live in Australia so everything's going be much more pricey. Most things are $20 - $150 above US(Newegg) prices.

From a bit of searching I think its onboard sound is equivalent to 'Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D PCIE Sound Card, Sound Core3D quad-core audio processor, THX, TruStudio Pro, CrystalVoice ($109 AUD Local Shop/$79 AUD Amazon)'

I haven't used Amazon for Computer parts before but it appears I could get the motherboard for ($226.00 AUD).

Might grab a Motherboard Bundle, anyone able to vouch for buying parts off Amazon?
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July 11, 2013 8:54:03 AM

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sna said:

I around $200 be careful not to pay more for expensive dealers


Yeah, sadly I live in Australia so everything's going be much more pricey. Most things are $20 - $150 above US(Newegg) prices.

From a bit of searching I think its onboard sound is equivalent to 'Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D PCIE Sound Card, Sound Core3D quad-core audio processor, THX, TruStudio Pro, CrystalVoice ($109 AUD Local Shop/$79 AUD Amazon)'

I haven't used Amazon for Computer parts before but it appears I could get the motherboard for ($226.00 AUD).

Might grab a Motherboard Bundle, anyone able to vouch for buying parts off Amazon?


There are several Creative cards with Sound Core3D processor.

the Gigabyte adds also a 600ohm headphone amplifier. you will need to look for Creative card with the same Amplifier as well. and to be shielded as well.

and don't forget to look at the ASUS PCE-AC66, 1300Mbps wifi card.

don't get old 300M wifi , all new hardware will support ac wifi .
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July 11, 2013 8:55:26 AM

ASUS PCE-AC66 802.11ac Dual-band Wireless-AC1750 PCI-E Adapter ($125.00 Local/$108.53 Amazon).

I'll add that to the build.
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July 11, 2013 1:22:56 PM

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ASUS PCE-AC66 802.11ac Dual-band Wireless-AC1750 PCI-E Adapter ($125.00 Local/$108.53 Amazon).

I'll add that to the build.


lol , are you sure Amazon is including the Taxes? it seems your Local prices are with Taxes included.

and I forgot to tell you , If you go for MATX motherboard and add cards like the wifi one , you wont be able to add a second VGA Card later in SLI mode.

so you have 3 options here ,

1- GET a GTX 780 from now and don't bother about SLI at all.
2- GET a FULL ATX motherboard with good sound or with a sound card.
3- GET an External 1300M wifi instead of internal one.
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July 11, 2013 4:53:16 PM

sna said:

lol , are you sure Amazon is including the Taxes? it seems your Local prices are with Taxes included.

and I forgot to tell you , If you go for MATX motherboard and add cards like the wifi one , you wont be able to add a second VGA Card later in SLI mode.

so you have 3 options here ,

1- GET a GTX 780 from now and don't bother about SLI at all.
2- GET a FULL ATX motherboard with good sound or with a sound card.
3- GET an External 1300M wifi instead of internal one.


The prices I gave for amazon are pretty much amazon(.com) price * amazon exchange rate = AUD price.

The savings don't outweigh the cost of shipping fees to get them to Australia, and CPU, MB and GPU can't be shipped so I can't get a good deal to outweigh the cost, and due to the exchange rates, some cost $1 - $5 dollars more than what I'd pay from a local shop.

Because I plan to eventually add an additional 3 more screens, totaling 6, I'll need a second graphics card to support that. I think the GTX780 can only handle 4 monitors(same as GTX760) alone, the cheapest GTX780 I can get locally costs ($798.00) whereas a GTX760 costs ($329.00), and 2 costs ($329.00) * 2 = ($658.00). Though I can't tell what the performance would be like with 6 screens with the latter, I'd probably only play games with one monitor or 3 at most. I'm not sure but according to this: Crunching The Numbers: Can Dual $269 Nvidia GTX 760s Outperform A $999 Titan?, the GTX760 SLI seems to outperform the single high end cards, and should allow me to have up to 8 screens, correct me if I'm wrong :) .

So I think I should look for a motherboard that can support 2 GTX760, 1 Sound Card(PCI-E) and 1 WiFi Network Adapter. Due to what I do I'd probably have the network adapter running 24/7 with internet traffic, so I'm not sure to go USB or WiFi. As for the Soundcard, I think I'll just buy PCI-E one, I'll do some research on that next.
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September 11, 2014 4:32:09 AM

I know I'm late, but others may find this thread anyway.

There is no GPU in the world (AFAIK, the only exception seems to be the Tegra 4) that can decode Hi10p Videos, so what is needed is a fast CPU and onboard graphics. The GPU is of no importance at all (and I guess for WoW it doesn't need to be that fast either). I'd skip graphics cards until they support Hi10p... which they should, as higher end cameras now record 10 bit video.

750W power supplies are rather idiotic too, my i5, overclocked to 4.5 GHz, with 5 hard drives and only a 80 plus PSU (not even Bronze) does around 150W. You aren't trying to tell me a GPU consumes 600W alone, right? Not even 2. Ideally you're using a PSU that has about as much power as your Computer draws, i.e. 400W supply in a 300W computer, that improves efficiency.
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