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July 11, 2013 2:46:14 AM

is this a good under £900 build?

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/jordonhc/saved/1W8X

would you recommend different parts? and also does anyone know anywhere i can buy the parts cheaper or in a deal (i've seen some parts bundled with games etc)

Approximate Purchase Date: within the next 2 months

Budget Range: £900 max

System Usage: 60% surfing and doing uni work but i also want it to be able to play the latest games at a good frame rate

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website for Parts: amazon.co.uk mainly because of free delivery but if anywhere is cheaper with delivery i would be willing to use them instead

Location: milton keynes uk

Parts Preferences:no preference just the best parts for my budget

Overclocking: Maybe this is my first build

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: mainly looking for advice on the best parts in my budget

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: because im going to uni soon and want to be able to play pc games

More about : good build

July 11, 2013 2:54:26 AM

sorry broken link
July 11, 2013 2:57:58 AM

jinayhvora said:
sorry broken link


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July 11, 2013 3:00:34 AM
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I am very sorry but your link is not working.

Here is your correct link -

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/jordonhc/saved/1W8X

Check this build out instead, I changed Motherboard to a better one and Case / PSU to a much better one. Also added an HDD -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£184.98 @ Ebuyer)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.62 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£118.13 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£51.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£105.74 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£45.59 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£206.15 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£76.78 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£49.86 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£13.15 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £875.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-11 10:59 BST+0100)

This build would give you 60 FPS on almost all games on Ultra and is very solid for almost everything.

If you want to enhance graphics further you can cut out SSD and get GTX 770 instead. But I would recommend a GTX 760 with a good SSD.
July 11, 2013 3:07:42 AM

luckiest charm said:
I am very sorry but your link is not working.

Here is your correct link -

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/jordonhc/saved/1W8X

Check this build out instead, I changed Motherboard to a better one and Case / PSU to a much better one. Also added an HDD -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£184.98 @ Ebuyer)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.62 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£118.13 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£51.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£105.74 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£45.59 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£206.15 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£76.78 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£49.86 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£13.15 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £875.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-11 10:59 BST+0100)

This build would give you 60 FPS on almost all games on Ultra and is very solid for almost everything.

If you want to enhance graphics further you can cut out SSD and get GTX 770 instead. But I would recommend a GTX 760 with a good SSD.


sorry about the broken link its fixed now, btw you rally freaked me out by knowing the right link :/  thanks for the changes, so you think the rest of the parts are the best i could get in my price range? thanks
July 11, 2013 3:10:06 AM

Haha that is alright, I just had a look at broken link and figured out how to retrieve the information off it. ;) 

And yes, the parts I suggested give you the best value for money possible. Fractal Design R4 has the best airflow and cable management properties out there. XFX PSUs are manufactured by Seasonic which is again not to be questioned.

Motherboard is one of the most renowned motherboards from ASRock and you need at least 1 TB of Hard Disk to store everything.
July 11, 2013 3:20:25 AM

luckiest charm said:
I am very sorry but your link is not working.

Here is your correct link -

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/jordonhc/saved/1W8X

Check this build out instead, I changed Motherboard to a better one and Case / PSU to a much better one. Also added an HDD -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£184.98 @ Ebuyer)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.62 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£118.13 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£51.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£105.74 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£45.59 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£206.15 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£76.78 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£49.86 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£13.15 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £875.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-11 10:59 BST+0100)

This build would give you 60 FPS on almost all games on Ultra and is very solid for almost everything.

If you want to enhance graphics further you can cut out SSD and get GTX 770 instead. But I would recommend a GTX 760 with a good SSD.


+1
Nice build.
But go with better cpu cooler like corsair h60or etc water cooling solution. Haswell runs hotterthan ivy bridge.
I also recomend a ssd.
But if you plan to sli in future then you will need 650w psu with gtx 760. If u chose gtx 770 after cutting ssd then you will need 750w psu for sli. Yups xfx is nice brand. You can also check corsair or sesonic too.
I hope it helps.
Thank you.
July 11, 2013 3:24:14 AM

I put in the SSD so no problem with that. As far as SLI matters, yeah you are right about that.

And for cooler, EVO is enough for him since he would be doing mild overclocking thus buying a more expensive cooler is not needed in my opinion. Its the best budget air cooler out there. Even stock Haswell cooler can handle the heat if you do not overclock the CPU. EVO should run even better than that and with EVO he should very easily hit 4.4 GHz.

H60 is liquid cooling and is for extreme overclockers. Too expensive here. :p 

Also, Seasonic manufactures PSUs for XFX. It just gets rebranded.

For GTX 760 SLI -

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650s...

For GTX 770 SLI -

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1750s...

None of them are modular, but I guess he might not need it as well. Budget is tight.
July 11, 2013 3:39:59 AM

can anyone give me clarification as to what SLI actually i? is it just two graphics cards running together? thanks for all the help
July 11, 2013 3:41:55 AM

Yups
you can oc haswell with hyper 212 evo but at 4.0ghz . If we oc it for 4.4 ghz it starts hurts ur cpu. Evo is enough for ivy bridge but not for haswell bridge.
H60 is more expensive but if he wants oc then he will need that for safety of his cpu. Otherwose evo is good.
Both psus are good.
I hope it helps.
Thank you.
July 11, 2013 3:43:53 AM

SLI = Running two or more GPUs simultaneously for near to double performance. This is for Nvidia cards.

ATI has similar thing for their cards known as Crossfire.

@Prince - Probably you are right. I would swap the cooler with H60.
July 11, 2013 3:53:15 AM

luckiest charm said:
SLI = Running two or more GPUs simultaneously for near to double performance. This is for Nvidia cards.

ATI has similar thing for their cards known as Crossfire.

@Price - Probably you are right. I would swap the cooler with H60.


Hey
My name is PRINCE JEET my friend.
July 11, 2013 3:55:45 AM

My apologies. I was writing Prince but since I am used to typing 'Price' that got wrote by mistake.
July 11, 2013 4:02:56 AM

luckiest charm said:
My apologies. I was writing Prince but since I am used to typing 'Price' that got wrote by mistake.


No problem my friend.
I never mind.
Thank you.
July 11, 2013 6:19:54 AM

so the consensus is change the cpu cooler too a corsair h60
change the psu to xfx 550w (buy a bigger one if i ever use SLI)
change the motherboard to asrock z87 extreme 3
case to fractal design r4, small question which do you guys prefer the black pearl or the titanium?
and i dont need the optical drive or the hard drive in the build so ill put that money into getting a gtx 770
how does this revised build look to you? http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/jordonhc/saved/1W8X

also do i need to do anything special for the cpu cooler since its liquid? and is the ram good quality or are there any better ones for the same price? thanks again
July 11, 2013 6:24:15 AM

This build is literally awesome.

I like black cases more but this one is also looking good.

And no you don't need anything special for Liquid Cooler.
This build would run any game out there at its very max without any troubles.

Do not forget the overclock the CPU to 4.4 GHz to improve performance and take advantage of liquid cooling!

And yes, if your question is solved you should pick a solution. It would help others too this way.
July 11, 2013 6:53:54 AM

luckiest charm said:
This build is literally awesome.

I like black cases more but this one is also looking good.

And no you don't need anything special for Liquid Cooler.
This build would run any game out there at its very max without any troubles.

Do not forget the overclock the CPU to 4.4 GHz to improve performance and take advantage of liquid cooling!

And yes, if your question is solved you should pick a solution. It would help others too this way.


woohoo :)  glad its good, ill probably watch some videos and pick the one i think looks best, so you dont need any liquid going in or anything is it all just self contained? how do you overclock? thanks for all your help :) 
July 11, 2013 7:03:40 AM

It is all self contained and pre-sealed liquid with a very high boiling point.

You just need to mount the radiator and pump at their appropriate places (Or where you see fit in the case of Pump) and there you go. It is much like using air cooler and you don't need to worry about liquid spilling, etc.

To overclock, Go to bios --> Try to find MIT or Advanced CPU Settings --> Locate the multiplier --> Raise it to 42x or 44x to raise clock speeds to 4.2 GHz or 4.4 GHz respectively --> Save and exit.

Basically you can set the multiplier to whatever you want but remember, if you go too high your system won't start or would encounter stability problems which we don't want. We advise you not to exceed 4.4 GHz with this CPU since it is not well known for overclocking. To compensate for that, it is already fast enough so you won't need to overclock it to its very extreme level.
July 11, 2013 7:48:48 AM

luckiest charm said:
It is all self contained and pre-sealed liquid with a very high boiling point.

You just need to mount the radiator and pump at their appropriate places (Or where you see fit in the case of Pump) and there you go. It is much like using air cooler and you don't need to worry about liquid spilling, etc.

To overclock, Go to bios --> Try to find MIT or Advanced CPU Settings --> Locate the multiplier --> Raise it to 42x or 44x to raise clock speeds to 4.2 GHz or 4.4 GHz respectively --> Save and exit.

Basically you can set the multiplier to whatever you want but remember, if you go too high your system won't start or would encounter stability problems which we don't want. We advise you not to exceed 4.4 GHz with this CPU since it is not well known for overclocking. To compensate for that, it is already fast enough so you won't need to overclock it to its very extreme level.


thanks for all the help, you make it all sound so simple :)  ill try and remember your name so i can ask if any more questions pop up, thanks again
July 11, 2013 8:19:46 AM

JordonHC said:
luckiest charm said:
It is all self contained and pre-sealed liquid with a very high boiling point.

You just need to mount the radiator and pump at their appropriate places (Or where you see fit in the case of Pump) and there you go. It is much like using air cooler and you don't need to worry about liquid spilling, etc.

To overclock, Go to bios --> Try to find MIT or Advanced CPU Settings --> Locate the multiplier --> Raise it to 42x or 44x to raise clock speeds to 4.2 GHz or 4.4 GHz respectively --> Save and exit.

Basically you can set the multiplier to whatever you want but remember, if you go too high your system won't start or would encounter stability problems which we don't want. We advise you not to exceed 4.4 GHz with this CPU since it is not well known for overclocking. To compensate for that, it is already fast enough so you won't need to overclock it to its very extreme level.


thanks for all the help, you make it all sound so simple :)  ill try and remember your name so i can ask if any more questions pop up, thanks again


I am very glad I could help you out. :) 

If some questions arise you can make a thread and send me a PM about it. Alternatively you can also ask me any question in PM directly. I try to answer as soon as possible.
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