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So i am completely remaking my setup, and i have everything sorted but the mouse and monitor.


Monitor:
Read posts below as my requirements have changed based on other peoples opinions
Mouse:
I have small-ish hands (haha) so i would prefer it to be a smaller size (like the steelseries sensei)
Things i have looked at are the sensei and the cm storm inferno but i would like to hear your opinions on different mice that i probably haven't heard of

Thanks
 
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by chance were you reading the monitor guide by manofchalk and i? that is stickied at the top of perepherals. it is chock full of good information but really does not go into pricing since values do change over time.

you asked about what the bad points are with tn.. here is a short photo lesson.

typically bad viewing angle
IPScomparison.jpg


6bit panel uses dithering to reproduce colors instead of natively supporting them like 8 or 10 bit ips
pic024.jpg


the good points of tn are the response time, refresh rate and price. response time is the time it takes for the monitor to display an image on the screen after it...
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Ok maybe i didnt read the guide properly, i would prefer 144hz so maybe not IPS (although i would like the good colour quality)
 
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Its probably 75-80% gaming so i guess i should go with a 144hz monitor, any suggestions?
 
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75% gaming? yup! 144Hz suits you better.
Now let see...how do you like this one?
ASUS VG248QE with 144Hz, nVidia 3D compatibility, 1ms reaction time and the colour reproduction is quite good for a TN panel monitor.

It was among the monitors, which I was considering to get 4 months ago, before I decided to go with Dell U2412m (IPS, 60Hz, 5ms).

 
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Thats probably overkill, i dont care about 3d because i wont use it at all and it bumps up the price. I would rather under $200 (if possible). I dont need the 1ms response either, anywhere under 5ms is good for me.
The main things are just 1080-1440p and 144hz
 
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$200?

for that budget you can forget ips. you are likely to only find tn, va or maybe e-ips if you are lucky. ips panels tend to be expensive.

you keep mentioning 144hz... what country are you in where that is the standard? in the usa i know we use the 60/120 standard. it may be hard to find even a tn with that refresh rate for that budget.

you need to realize that ips panels are not available in 120h/144hz

personally i think image quality is paramount so i always go ips. 60hz works just fine for me. what monitor is ideal for you depends on your budget (give us actual numbers not "cheap as possible"), what you expect from the monitor (ie either "color accuracy" OR "120/144hz")
 
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Sorry i know nearly nothing about monitors, i just read that thread that sticky thread and picked what suites me but people have been telling me that these options aren't really compatible with each other. I guess just any suggestions of things that are good value under $200.

I would just go a cheap-ish 60hz ips or a tn (i would like to be 144hz but if they are out of my price range then 60hz is fine)

All i want is suggestions of good monitors, as i know nearly nothing about them
 
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lol, kinda ironic i got the ASUS VG248QE a few days ago and gaming on it is like a dream. dont let anyone tell you that there is no difference between 60 and 120/144hz because there definitely is. colors out of the box arent great but with some tinkering they are perfectly adequate. for sub-200 you wont find many 120hz monitors and if you do they will definitely be tn and have tn problems( viewing angles, color reproduction, backlight bleed, etc.) but tn is where you can get those types of refresh rates.

as for the mouse, i currently use the sensei and it certainly isnt small. its very basic with an ambidextrous design. the sensor is nice and gets up to 16400dcpi(wtf???) most likely you will be forced to use fingertip or palm, imo it doesnt feel right as fingertip. i almost always try to steer people away from steelseries because of my experiences with their support and quality control (took me almost a month to rma my siberias the first time, even longer the second), but some people really like theirs so if you feel lucky go ahead.

long post.... like my 20 cents
 
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I dont get what who are saying about TN being bad, as on the asus website it says the VG248QE is TN panel. With the mouse i usually use palm grip so the sensei might be an option, but it wouldn't be my first choice.
Thanks for your "20 cents" haha.
 
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wahahahahaha...aiming for goods IPS and 144Hz TN panel only with 200 bucks as budget...you really have to wake up ^o^


ASUS VS248H is good looking at the price..and there are also other monitors which I like in the price range
HP 23xi, Dell U2312HM, ASUS VS248H and LG IPS234v...yes most of them are IPS ^o^
 
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by chance were you reading the monitor guide by manofchalk and i? that is stickied at the top of perepherals. it is chock full of good information but really does not go into pricing since values do change over time.

you asked about what the bad points are with tn.. here is a short photo lesson.

typically bad viewing angle
IPScomparison.jpg


6bit panel uses dithering to reproduce colors instead of natively supporting them like 8 or 10 bit ips
pic024.jpg


the good points of tn are the response time, refresh rate and price. response time is the time it takes for the monitor to display an image on the screen after it receives a signal. currently tn is the only monitor capable of 120/144 refresh rates.

a higher refresh rate means a smoother video flow however realize that this takes alot more processing. some new high end games can barely run at 60fps on a single card. to get higher fps you would have to drop settings down lower which is why some people use sli or crossfire at more expense. realize also that to keep using high settings and keep high fps you will need to update your gpu more regularly or drop settings as time progresses. granted you dont have to run at high fps on a 120/144hz monitor but why would you buy one if you dont plan on it?

this is why i said what monitor you pick is according to your wants/needs.

tn @ 50/60hz = no high refresh rate, poor viewing angles, poor color accuracy, no high refresh rate but okay if your hardware cant support, very good response times. cheap.
tn @100/120/144hz = same as above but supports high refresh rate. you need good hardware to support this. mid range price.
e-ips @ 50/60hz = no high refresh rate, very good viewing angle, average color accuracy, average response time. mid range prices.
va @ 50/60hz = similar to e-ips.
s/h or p-ips @ 50/60hz = no high refresh rate, very good viewing angle, best color accuracy you can get, slightly high response times, high price. these are the best "image quality" screens you can buy but they are very expensive.
pls @ 50/60hz = similar to above except cheaper prices due to a cheaper manufacturing process over how they make ips panels.

keep in mind that picking a 1200p, 1440p or 1600p over a 1080p panel will also drive prices up.
 
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So really the only things in my price range (according to PC Case Gear) would be a cheap IPS or a 60hz TN so i think the obvious option would be the cheap IPS like this: Acer H236HLBMID
 
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