(help) I want to build a top end gaming computer

Poseidon357

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Hey!

I was wanting a high end gaming computer, though I have no clue what exactly to look for. This will be my first time building one, and while I am aiming for high end I'd like to remain as cost efficient as possible. Assume I'm inept with computers- because after looking into this I realize I have no clue what I'm looking at. Thanks for the help!
 
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Josdekleijn

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cpu i54670k
mobo asus z87 deluxe
cpu cooler water corsair h100i air coolermaser hyper 212 evo
memory corsair vengeance
gpu gigabyte gtx 770 or gigabyte 680
case choose a nice one
storage samsung 840 pro choose your capacity western digital black 2 tb
 

GMPoisoN

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A budget ranged would help greatly. Also, do you have large storage needs (lot's of videos/games/music)? Do you do any video editing? Lastly, will you be playing on just one monitor? Answer these questions and I can help greatly!
 

Poseidon357

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for the budget range lets just go anywhere between 1000-2000 maybe more, i plan to buy the parts piece by piece and put it together over time. I don't play many games, but that may change once i get a non dino tech computer. So lets just assume i'm playing a few mmo's and some very graphically intensive games. I should be playing on just one monitor as i currently hook up to my flat screen, but the option of two monitors down the road wouldn't be bad, though again not really necessary.
 

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Buying over time is very tricky - technology moves fast and when you buy things one at a time, you have to be very careful to not end up paying for a part that spends part of its life sitting around doing nothing. There are some things you can buy early (case, PSU, optical drive, RAM), but the biggest ticket parts, you pretty much want to buy fairly close together and use as soon as you can to get the most out of them.
 

DSzymborski

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Ah, then it's not a big deal. I have actually run into people that intended to build a PC over 1-2 years. Including one who thought that getting the CPU and GPU first to get them "out of the way" was a good idea.
 
This is currently the best gaming PC you can build. Nothing beats this as for now. Nothing..

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($85.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.73 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1779.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-12 12:41 EDT-0400)

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Poseidon357

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Oh my, that would be a little ridiculous. I can't even really imagine the pay off in building a pc over that long amount of a time.
 

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CPU: 4670k ($199.99 - Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: H100i ($103.99 - Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB ($84.99 - Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ($189.99 - Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250 GB ($179.99 - Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Black 1 TB ($89.99 - Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 x2 ($800 for both cards - Newegg)
Case: Many options, but the Corsair Obsidian Series 800D ($254.99 - Newegg). Up to you, just make sure it's either a "Mid Tower" or "Full Tower", and you're pretty much good to go.
PSU: Corsair HX 1060W ($199.99 - Newegg)
Optical Drive: SUS 24X DVD Burner ($19.99 - Newegg)
OS: Windows 7 ($99.99 - Newegg)
Total:$2293.89

With this build, you will be able to run any game, max settings, 0 lag. Best of the best in this build. If you want to cut the price a bit, go for a cheaper case, such as the Corsair Carbide Series 400R for example, for only $69.99. Less flashy, but gets the job done. You can also cut the price down by about $500 if you remove one of the 770's and grab a smaller PSU, such as the Corsair HX 750W. If you want any reasoning behind the parts I picked, please let me know!
 

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I agree - processors, motherboards, SSDs and video card prices change dramatically over a 6 month stretch and it's likely that a newer series will release during that time frame. I am a fan of spending the money once to be happy with what you have and not feel like you have to constantly be upgrade. If I were buying today, here is what I would build:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1fUzQ

It will be able to play even the most demanding games on the market for around $1500 and you will be able to enjoy gaming without any performance issues for the next 5-7 years. This build does include an operating system, but not a keyboard/mouse or monitor because I am assuming you have them. I might recommend a nice 1080p flat panel.
 


Oh My God!! I cannot believe that people really do this stuff. Oh God WHY??

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First of all, no gaming computer is "future proof" for 5-7 years, you will not be able to play the most demanding games for the next 7 years on that pc. Second of all, you didn't include a CPU cooler. Third of all, the case you provided to him doesn't even include front panel USB 3.0 ports. You also forgot to mention that 16 GB is ridiculous for a gaming pc. Also, only buy the HX line from Corsair, it's the best line up they have.
 

Poseidon357

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I'd actually love a reasoning on all the parts, or any you feel is actually worth mentioning if its not too much trouble, thanks!
 

GMPoisoN

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No trouble at all.

4670k - Reasoning behind this, over the 3570k, is that it's only $10 more, and it's the newer socket, which means more support, and just a better choice over all.

H100i - The reason I went with this is because another step down would be air, and on a $2000 rig, it doesn't make much sense to me to go air. If you wanted to go custom (which requires some knowledge of the subject, and a bit of time to set up) you're looking at another $100-$400, for a very small performance gain from the H100i. People mainly go crazy with custom water cooling for their hobby, or because it can look very, very nice in a system.

Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB - Reasoning behind getting Vengeance Pro over Vengeance, is it's only a few bucks more, and faster speeds!

MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming - Great motherboard, specific for gaming, very nice audio so you don't need to buy a sound card, and not too expensive!

Samsung 840 Series 250 GB - Samsung 840 Series, best SSDs on the market to date. Reasoning behind 250G is so you can put your Operating System on it, a few apps, and maybe a game or two that has a lot of load screens (which is the only benefit from running a game off an SSD, is load times), like Skyrim or WoW maybe. The reasoning behind not getting the "Pro" version of the drive is that the performance gains are small, and the price increase is huge.

Western Digital Black 1 TB - Western Digital makes great quality drives, and 1 TB will be perfect for all of your needs, unless you have a crazy amount of videos or pictures you need to store.

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 - One of the best graphics cards out there that doesn't cost $1000. Reason behind not getting the 780 is because it cost around $300 more, for a very small performance gain. Reason behind two of them is you will see a huge performance increase. In BF3 for example, you can find multiple benchmarks where you gain +30-+40 fps with two 770's. Also, if you can't afford both now, still buy the large 1050W PSU, and buy the second card later!

Corsair Obsidian 800D - Nice case, very large, tons of cooling for your graphic card(s) and other components. Very flashy, if it's going to be sitting on your desk, or on display what so ever, it's a nice choice. You can always add an LED light strip or two for a few bucks to make it look very sharp if that's your style, if not, you can easily opt for a small "mid tower" case, and be just fine.

Corsair HX 1050W - Large PSU, Corsair is a trusted company, and the HX series is their best line up!

A slightly more budget version would be a smaller case (-$100), a smaller PSU (-$100), and only one graphics card (-$400). Essentially, the build could cost around $1700, you would just not be able to max out ever single game out there, and run it with smooth fps 100% of the time, but you would by no means see bad performance what so ever. Another 770 is just going that extra mile for the very best.

Let me know if you have any more questions, love to help!
 
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One of the best graphics cards out there that doesn't cost $1000. Reason behind not getting the 780 is because it cost around $300 more, for a very small performance gain. Reason behind two of them is you will see a huge performance increase. In BF3 for example, you can find multiple benchmarks where you gain +30-+40 fps with two 770's. Also, if you can't afford both now, still buy the large 1050W PSU, and buy the second card later!

Agree with everything other than the **very small performance gain** line because the 780 is comparable to the Titan which is much more powerful than the 770 or 680.

Other than that your build is better than the one i suggested in most things other than the graphics. But i am not sure that being a new guy to gaming, would he actually need this much. I think the build i suggested is better considering that he is a newbie and does not need that much Enthusiast level parts. And also my build has the 780 which is better than the 770.

I am not fighting over the parts, all i am trying to make sure that he would not need that much. I think that the build i suggested should be more than enough for his needs and should serve him for about the next 5 years easily considering that it has the 780 and in future another 780 could be added for more performance increase if he wants to. Also my build with a 780 costs around 500 dollars lesser than your build. I think it should be in any way more than enough for any gamer. There is no point in throwing money away uselessly.

Let him have the build i suggested, i am sure it would do good. Below are the parts i selected if you again want to have a look at them :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($164.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($85.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.73 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1779.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-12 12:41 EDT-0400)

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