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July 12, 2013 10:10:27 AM

should I go with the gtx 770 radeon 7970 two gtx 760's or a gtx 780 I want to avoid the 780 but if it is necessary than i will.
here is my entire build
Intel i5 3570k
asrock z77 extreme 4
corsair vengeance 8gb 2x4gb
samsung 840 128gb
wd blue 1tb
fractal design define r4
zalman cnps 9900max cpu cooler
seasonic x650 gold psu
I do plan on overclocking to 4.5 mhz

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July 12, 2013 10:13:52 AM

it depends, what do you want to do with the graphics card? what games do you want to play? and what is your monitior setup? just 1,2,3,4 etc?
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July 12, 2013 10:16:39 AM

What resolution do you play at?

For 1080p or less, I'd very much recommend a gtx 770 out of those options. Plenty of horsepower today while leaving the door open for SLI tomorrow. 2 gtx 760's would be fine too- though the extra performance is overkill for today's games. I'd avoid the 780 purely on price efficiency issues- and while the 7970 (Ghz Only) offers similar performance as a gtx 770, the 770 does it on less power heat and noise generally. I lean nvidia a little bit, and have no problem saying 7970 Ghz is a good card, but the 770 is a better one.
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July 12, 2013 10:22:26 AM

katiklysm said:
What resolution do you play at?

For 1080p or less, I'd very much recommend a gtx 770 out of those options. Plenty of horsepower today while leaving the door open for SLI tomorrow. 2 gtx 760's would be fine too- though the extra performance is overkill for today's games. I'd avoid the 780 purely on price efficiency issues- and while the 7970 (Ghz Only) offers similar performance as a gtx 770, the 770 does it on less power heat and noise generally. I lean nvidia a little bit, and have no problem saying 7970 Ghz is a good card, but the 770 is a better one.


is it worth getting a 1440p monitor over a 1080p? it will add about 300 to my build if i do it. I'm going to be playing games like crysis and far cry and bioshock
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July 12, 2013 10:23:43 AM

mrdmatt123 said:
katiklysm said:
What resolution do you play at?

For 1080p or less, I'd very much recommend a gtx 770 out of those options. Plenty of horsepower today while leaving the door open for SLI tomorrow. 2 gtx 760's would be fine too- though the extra performance is overkill for today's games. I'd avoid the 780 purely on price efficiency issues- and while the 7970 (Ghz Only) offers similar performance as a gtx 770, the 770 does it on less power heat and noise generally. I lean nvidia a little bit, and have no problem saying 7970 Ghz is a good card, but the 770 is a better one.


well worth it, i have a 1440p monitor and its the best thing ever, never been happier with it.

is it worth getting a 1440p monitor over a 1080p? it will add about 300 to my build if i do it


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July 12, 2013 10:32:08 AM

hbazzi98 said:
mrdmatt123 said:
katiklysm said:
What resolution do you play at?

For 1080p or less, I'd very much recommend a gtx 770 out of those options. Plenty of horsepower today while leaving the door open for SLI tomorrow. 2 gtx 760's would be fine too- though the extra performance is overkill for today's games. I'd avoid the 780 purely on price efficiency issues- and while the 7970 (Ghz Only) offers similar performance as a gtx 770, the 770 does it on less power heat and noise generally. I lean nvidia a little bit, and have no problem saying 7970 Ghz is a good card, but the 770 is a better one.


well worth it, i have a 1440p monitor and its the best thing ever, never been happier with it.

is it worth getting a 1440p monitor over a 1080p? it will add about 300 to my build if i do it




so back to the original question what gpu for that build?
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July 12, 2013 10:43:02 AM

mrdmatt123 said:
hbazzi98 said:
mrdmatt123 said:
katiklysm said:
What resolution do you play at?

For 1080p or less, I'd very much recommend a gtx 770 out of those options. Plenty of horsepower today while leaving the door open for SLI tomorrow. 2 gtx 760's would be fine too- though the extra performance is overkill for today's games. I'd avoid the 780 purely on price efficiency issues- and while the 7970 (Ghz Only) offers similar performance as a gtx 770, the 770 does it on less power heat and noise generally. I lean nvidia a little bit, and have no problem saying 7970 Ghz is a good card, but the 770 is a better one.


well worth it, i have a 1440p monitor and its the best thing ever, never been happier with it.

is it worth getting a 1440p monitor over a 1080p? it will add about 300 to my build if i do it




so back to the original question what gpu for that build?


I'm still going to recommend the GTX 770 regardless if you plan to buy a 1080 or 1440 resolution monitor. Fact is, it's a great power card- and you're obviously looking at a power build (you're not exactly working on a minimum budget- a good thing).

So here:

If you opt for 1440 Resolution:
- Get the GTX 770, but highly consider opting for the 4GB version. It has about a $40 premium over the standard 2GB version- but it will give you more headroom in the future for gDDR hungry games in the future. For example- if a game like Fallout 4 came out next year (it wont- just an example)- and you wanted to play it with any mods at all on 1440p, you'd need the 4GB RAM card. It won't make an immediate impact on a game like Crysis- but more RAM is generally recommended for high res or multi-monitor gaming.

If you opt for 1080 Resolution:
- Still the GTX 770, but go 2GB- the extra RAM will not be needed at this resolution.

FYI RAM amount adds little/no value in terms of performance- it just helps with # of objects cached for screen display (larger screen = more, finer detail objects).

This too- 1440 resolution will eat your performance up. a GTX 770 will perform well today, but plan on going with an SLI GTX 770 (or sell and upgrade) in the next year or two for sure if you want to continue to play games on High/Max settings. So in addition to what you pay for a 1440 monitor- you'll pay more in graphics performance to keep it happy along the way :) 
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July 12, 2013 10:46:34 AM

im going with the gtx 770. the games you want to play kill any other graphics card but the 780 but i know you want to avoid it, if you could go to a 2 gtx 770 it will kill any graphics card out there guaranteed. anandtech results for a bench on the cards compared to a 7970

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/829?vs=768
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July 12, 2013 10:49:42 AM

I would go with the GTX 770 and add a second in SLI if needed. Really even my GTX 670 is enough at 1080p for any game I have played. When I play games that work at 5670x1080 Surround is when the SLI comes into play. If I was not using 3x Asus 27" monitors I do not think even with my aging GTX 670's I would need SLI.

As far as going with a 1440p monitor that is up to you no one can answer that except for you. Personally for me I am still happy with my 1080p monitors but then again to replace all 9 of my 27" monitors would cost more money than I want to spend, 3 monitors x3 rigs.
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July 12, 2013 11:02:56 AM

katiklysm said:
mrdmatt123 said:
hbazzi98 said:
mrdmatt123 said:
katiklysm said:
What resolution do you play at?

For 1080p or less, I'd very much recommend a gtx 770 out of those options. Plenty of horsepower today while leaving the door open for SLI tomorrow. 2 gtx 760's would be fine too- though the extra performance is overkill for today's games. I'd avoid the 780 purely on price efficiency issues- and while the 7970 (Ghz Only) offers similar performance as a gtx 770, the 770 does it on less power heat and noise generally. I lean nvidia a little bit, and have no problem saying 7970 Ghz is a good card, but the 770 is a better one.


well worth it, i have a 1440p monitor and its the best thing ever, never been happier with it.

is it worth getting a 1440p monitor over a 1080p? it will add about 300 to my build if i do it




so back to the original question what gpu for that build?


I'm still going to recommend the GTX 770 regardless if you plan to buy a 1080 or 1440 resolution monitor. Fact is, it's a great power card- and you're obviously looking at a power build (you're not exactly working on a minimum budget- a good thing).

So here:

If you opt for 1440 Resolution:
- Get the GTX 770, but highly consider opting for the 4GB version. It has about a $40 premium over the standard 2GB version- but it will give you more headroom in the future for gDDR hungry games in the future. For example- if a game like Fallout 4 came out next year (it wont- just an example)- and you wanted to play it with any mods at all on 1440p, you'd need the 4GB RAM card. It won't make an immediate impact on a game like Crysis- but more RAM is generally recommended for high res or multi-monitor gaming.

If you opt for 1080 Resolution:
- Still the GTX 770, but go 2GB- the extra RAM will not be needed at this resolution.

FYI RAM amount adds little/no value in terms of performance- it just helps with # of objects cached for screen display (larger screen = more, finer detail objects).

This too- 1440 resolution will eat your performance up. a GTX 770 will perform well today, but plan on going with an SLI GTX 770 (or sell and upgrade) in the next year or two for sure if you want to continue to play games on High/Max settings. So in addition to what you pay for a 1440 monitor- you'll pay more in graphics performance to keep it happy along the way :) 


hbazzi98 said:
im going with the gtx 770. the games you want to play kill any other graphics card but the 780 but i know you want to avoid it, if you could go to a 2 gtx 770 it will kill any graphics card out there guaranteed. anandtech results for a bench on the cards compared to a 7970

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/829?vs=768


bryonhowley said:
I would go with the GTX 770 and add a second in SLI if needed. Really even my GTX 670 is enough at 1080p for any game I have played. When I play games that work at 5670x1080 Surround is when the SLI comes into play. If I was not using 3x Asus 27" monitors I do not think even with my aging GTX 670's I would need SLI.

As far as going with a 1440p monitor that is up to you no one can answer that except for you. Personally for me I am still happy with my 1080p monitors but then again to replace all 9 of my 27" monitors would cost more money than I want to spend, 3 monitors x3 rigs.


if i go for two gtx 770's in 1440p can i just get the 2gb then?
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July 12, 2013 11:10:00 AM

mrdmatt123 said:
katiklysm said:
mrdmatt123 said:
hbazzi98 said:
mrdmatt123 said:
katiklysm said:
What resolution do you play at?

For 1080p or less, I'd very much recommend a gtx 770 out of those options. Plenty of horsepower today while leaving the door open for SLI tomorrow. 2 gtx 760's would be fine too- though the extra performance is overkill for today's games. I'd avoid the 780 purely on price efficiency issues- and while the 7970 (Ghz Only) offers similar performance as a gtx 770, the 770 does it on less power heat and noise generally. I lean nvidia a little bit, and have no problem saying 7970 Ghz is a good card, but the 770 is a better one.


well worth it, i have a 1440p monitor and its the best thing ever, never been happier with it.

is it worth getting a 1440p monitor over a 1080p? it will add about 300 to my build if i do it




so back to the original question what gpu for that build?


I'm still going to recommend the GTX 770 regardless if you plan to buy a 1080 or 1440 resolution monitor. Fact is, it's a great power card- and you're obviously looking at a power build (you're not exactly working on a minimum budget- a good thing).

So here:

If you opt for 1440 Resolution:
- Get the GTX 770, but highly consider opting for the 4GB version. It has about a $40 premium over the standard 2GB version- but it will give you more headroom in the future for gDDR hungry games in the future. For example- if a game like Fallout 4 came out next year (it wont- just an example)- and you wanted to play it with any mods at all on 1440p, you'd need the 4GB RAM card. It won't make an immediate impact on a game like Crysis- but more RAM is generally recommended for high res or multi-monitor gaming.

If you opt for 1080 Resolution:
- Still the GTX 770, but go 2GB- the extra RAM will not be needed at this resolution.

FYI RAM amount adds little/no value in terms of performance- it just helps with # of objects cached for screen display (larger screen = more, finer detail objects).

This too- 1440 resolution will eat your performance up. a GTX 770 will perform well today, but plan on going with an SLI GTX 770 (or sell and upgrade) in the next year or two for sure if you want to continue to play games on High/Max settings. So in addition to what you pay for a 1440 monitor- you'll pay more in graphics performance to keep it happy along the way :) 


hbazzi98 said:
im going with the gtx 770. the games you want to play kill any other graphics card but the 780 but i know you want to avoid it, if you could go to a 2 gtx 770 it will kill any graphics card out there guaranteed. anandtech results for a bench on the cards compared to a 7970

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/829?vs=768


bryonhowley said:
I would go with the GTX 770 and add a second in SLI if needed. Really even my GTX 670 is enough at 1080p for any game I have played. When I play games that work at 5670x1080 Surround is when the SLI comes into play. If I was not using 3x Asus 27" monitors I do not think even with my aging GTX 670's I would need SLI.

As far as going with a 1440p monitor that is up to you no one can answer that except for you. Personally for me I am still happy with my 1080p monitors but then again to replace all 9 of my 27" monitors would cost more money than I want to spend, 3 monitors x3 rigs.


if i go for two gtx 770's in 1440p can i just get the 2gb then?


Well, you would have plenty of performance/power to run games- but you still may run into slowdown from RAM overdraw on a few select games- again, I'm using Fallout4/ElderScrolls6 type moddable games as the example- because frankly, 2GB is plenty for all games today- unless they're modded with better textures and more objects.

But no, 2x 2GB cards in SLI = 2GB total. By running SLI you do not double the ram. so 2 4GB cards = 4GB total, 2 2GB cards = 2GB total. If you went SLI on 2GB cards- you would be set for years on 95-96% of all games.
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July 12, 2013 11:16:19 AM

katiklysm said:
mrdmatt123 said:
katiklysm said:
mrdmatt123 said:
hbazzi98 said:
mrdmatt123 said:
katiklysm said:
What resolution do you play at?

For 1080p or less, I'd very much recommend a gtx 770 out of those options. Plenty of horsepower today while leaving the door open for SLI tomorrow. 2 gtx 760's would be fine too- though the extra performance is overkill for today's games. I'd avoid the 780 purely on price efficiency issues- and while the 7970 (Ghz Only) offers similar performance as a gtx 770, the 770 does it on less power heat and noise generally. I lean nvidia a little bit, and have no problem saying 7970 Ghz is a good card, but the 770 is a better one.


well worth it, i have a 1440p monitor and its the best thing ever, never been happier with it.

is it worth getting a 1440p monitor over a 1080p? it will add about 300 to my build if i do it




so back to the original question what gpu for that build?


I'm still going to recommend the GTX 770 regardless if you plan to buy a 1080 or 1440 resolution monitor. Fact is, it's a great power card- and you're obviously looking at a power build (you're not exactly working on a minimum budget- a good thing).

So here:

If you opt for 1440 Resolution:
- Get the GTX 770, but highly consider opting for the 4GB version. It has about a $40 premium over the standard 2GB version- but it will give you more headroom in the future for gDDR hungry games in the future. For example- if a game like Fallout 4 came out next year (it wont- just an example)- and you wanted to play it with any mods at all on 1440p, you'd need the 4GB RAM card. It won't make an immediate impact on a game like Crysis- but more RAM is generally recommended for high res or multi-monitor gaming.

If you opt for 1080 Resolution:
- Still the GTX 770, but go 2GB- the extra RAM will not be needed at this resolution.

FYI RAM amount adds little/no value in terms of performance- it just helps with # of objects cached for screen display (larger screen = more, finer detail objects).

This too- 1440 resolution will eat your performance up. a GTX 770 will perform well today, but plan on going with an SLI GTX 770 (or sell and upgrade) in the next year or two for sure if you want to continue to play games on High/Max settings. So in addition to what you pay for a 1440 monitor- you'll pay more in graphics performance to keep it happy along the way :) 


hbazzi98 said:
im going with the gtx 770. the games you want to play kill any other graphics card but the 780 but i know you want to avoid it, if you could go to a 2 gtx 770 it will kill any graphics card out there guaranteed. anandtech results for a bench on the cards compared to a 7970

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/829?vs=768


bryonhowley said:
I would go with the GTX 770 and add a second in SLI if needed. Really even my GTX 670 is enough at 1080p for any game I have played. When I play games that work at 5670x1080 Surround is when the SLI comes into play. If I was not using 3x Asus 27" monitors I do not think even with my aging GTX 670's I would need SLI.

As far as going with a 1440p monitor that is up to you no one can answer that except for you. Personally for me I am still happy with my 1080p monitors but then again to replace all 9 of my 27" monitors would cost more money than I want to spend, 3 monitors x3 rigs.


if i go for two gtx 770's in 1440p can i just get the 2gb then?


Well, you would have plenty of performance/power to run games- but you still may run into slowdown from RAM overdraw on a few select games- again, I'm using Fallout4/ElderScrolls6 type moddable games as the example- because frankly, 2GB is plenty for all games today- unless they're modded with better textures and more objects.

But no, 2x 2GB cards in SLI = 2GB total. By running SLI you do not double the ram. so 2 4GB cards = 4GB total, 2 2GB cards = 2GB total. If you went SLI on 2GB cards- you would be set for years on 95-96% of all games.


ok last question, can my seasonic x650 gold psu handle two 770's?
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July 12, 2013 11:18:29 AM

katiklysm said:
mrdmatt123 said:
katiklysm said:
mrdmatt123 said:
hbazzi98 said:
mrdmatt123 said:
katiklysm said:
What resolution do you play at?

For 1080p or less, I'd very much recommend a gtx 770 out of those options. Plenty of horsepower today while leaving the door open for SLI tomorrow. 2 gtx 760's would be fine too- though the extra performance is overkill for today's games. I'd avoid the 780 purely on price efficiency issues- and while the 7970 (Ghz Only) offers similar performance as a gtx 770, the 770 does it on less power heat and noise generally. I lean nvidia a little bit, and have no problem saying 7970 Ghz is a good card, but the 770 is a better one.


well worth it, i have a 1440p monitor and its the best thing ever, never been happier with it.

is it worth getting a 1440p monitor over a 1080p? it will add about 300 to my build if i do it




so back to the original question what gpu for that build?


I'm still going to recommend the GTX 770 regardless if you plan to buy a 1080 or 1440 resolution monitor. Fact is, it's a great power card- and you're obviously looking at a power build (you're not exactly working on a minimum budget- a good thing).

So here:

If you opt for 1440 Resolution:
- Get the GTX 770, but highly consider opting for the 4GB version. It has about a $40 premium over the standard 2GB version- but it will give you more headroom in the future for gDDR hungry games in the future. For example- if a game like Fallout 4 came out next year (it wont- just an example)- and you wanted to play it with any mods at all on 1440p, you'd need the 4GB RAM card. It won't make an immediate impact on a game like Crysis- but more RAM is generally recommended for high res or multi-monitor gaming.

If you opt for 1080 Resolution:
- Still the GTX 770, but go 2GB- the extra RAM will not be needed at this resolution.

FYI RAM amount adds little/no value in terms of performance- it just helps with # of objects cached for screen display (larger screen = more, finer detail objects).

This too- 1440 resolution will eat your performance up. a GTX 770 will perform well today, but plan on going with an SLI GTX 770 (or sell and upgrade) in the next year or two for sure if you want to continue to play games on High/Max settings. So in addition to what you pay for a 1440 monitor- you'll pay more in graphics performance to keep it happy along the way :) 


hbazzi98 said:
im going with the gtx 770. the games you want to play kill any other graphics card but the 780 but i know you want to avoid it, if you could go to a 2 gtx 770 it will kill any graphics card out there guaranteed. anandtech results for a bench on the cards compared to a 7970

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/829?vs=768


bryonhowley said:
I would go with the GTX 770 and add a second in SLI if needed. Really even my GTX 670 is enough at 1080p for any game I have played. When I play games that work at 5670x1080 Surround is when the SLI comes into play. If I was not using 3x Asus 27" monitors I do not think even with my aging GTX 670's I would need SLI.

As far as going with a 1440p monitor that is up to you no one can answer that except for you. Personally for me I am still happy with my 1080p monitors but then again to replace all 9 of my 27" monitors would cost more money than I want to spend, 3 monitors x3 rigs.


if i go for two gtx 770's in 1440p can i just get the 2gb then?


Well, you would have plenty of performance/power to run games- but you still may run into slowdown from RAM overdraw on a few select games- again, I'm using Fallout4/ElderScrolls6 type moddable games as the example- because frankly, 2GB is plenty for all games today- unless they're modded with better textures and more objects.

But no, 2x 2GB cards in SLI = 2GB total. By running SLI you do not double the ram. so 2 4GB cards = 4GB total, 2 2GB cards = 2GB total. If you went SLI on 2GB cards- you would be set for years on 95-96% of all games.


for 1440p i recommend at least 3gb, 4GB is outstanding but if you intended on 2GB you wont change 2x2GB=4GB it will be 2x2GB=2GB so 4GB is more than enough for a 1440p
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July 12, 2013 11:23:30 AM

mrdmatt123 said:
katiklysm said:
mrdmatt123 said:
katiklysm said:
mrdmatt123 said:
hbazzi98 said:
mrdmatt123 said:
katiklysm said:
What resolution do you play at?

For 1080p or less, I'd very much recommend a gtx 770 out of those options. Plenty of horsepower today while leaving the door open for SLI tomorrow. 2 gtx 760's would be fine too- though the extra performance is overkill for today's games. I'd avoid the 780 purely on price efficiency issues- and while the 7970 (Ghz Only) offers similar performance as a gtx 770, the 770 does it on less power heat and noise generally. I lean nvidia a little bit, and have no problem saying 7970 Ghz is a good card, but the 770 is a better one.


well worth it, i have a 1440p monitor and its the best thing ever, never been happier with it.

is it worth getting a 1440p monitor over a 1080p? it will add about 300 to my build if i do it




so back to the original question what gpu for that build?


I'm still going to recommend the GTX 770 regardless if you plan to buy a 1080 or 1440 resolution monitor. Fact is, it's a great power card- and you're obviously looking at a power build (you're not exactly working on a minimum budget- a good thing).

So here:

If you opt for 1440 Resolution:
- Get the GTX 770, but highly consider opting for the 4GB version. It has about a $40 premium over the standard 2GB version- but it will give you more headroom in the future for gDDR hungry games in the future. For example- if a game like Fallout 4 came out next year (it wont- just an example)- and you wanted to play it with any mods at all on 1440p, you'd need the 4GB RAM card. It won't make an immediate impact on a game like Crysis- but more RAM is generally recommended for high res or multi-monitor gaming.

If you opt for 1080 Resolution:
- Still the GTX 770, but go 2GB- the extra RAM will not be needed at this resolution.

FYI RAM amount adds little/no value in terms of performance- it just helps with # of objects cached for screen display (larger screen = more, finer detail objects).

This too- 1440 resolution will eat your performance up. a GTX 770 will perform well today, but plan on going with an SLI GTX 770 (or sell and upgrade) in the next year or two for sure if you want to continue to play games on High/Max settings. So in addition to what you pay for a 1440 monitor- you'll pay more in graphics performance to keep it happy along the way :) 


hbazzi98 said:
im going with the gtx 770. the games you want to play kill any other graphics card but the 780 but i know you want to avoid it, if you could go to a 2 gtx 770 it will kill any graphics card out there guaranteed. anandtech results for a bench on the cards compared to a 7970

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/829?vs=768


bryonhowley said:
I would go with the GTX 770 and add a second in SLI if needed. Really even my GTX 670 is enough at 1080p for any game I have played. When I play games that work at 5670x1080 Surround is when the SLI comes into play. If I was not using 3x Asus 27" monitors I do not think even with my aging GTX 670's I would need SLI.

As far as going with a 1440p monitor that is up to you no one can answer that except for you. Personally for me I am still happy with my 1080p monitors but then again to replace all 9 of my 27" monitors would cost more money than I want to spend, 3 monitors x3 rigs.


if i go for two gtx 770's in 1440p can i just get the 2gb then?


Well, you would have plenty of performance/power to run games- but you still may run into slowdown from RAM overdraw on a few select games- again, I'm using Fallout4/ElderScrolls6 type moddable games as the example- because frankly, 2GB is plenty for all games today- unless they're modded with better textures and more objects.

But no, 2x 2GB cards in SLI = 2GB total. By running SLI you do not double the ram. so 2 4GB cards = 4GB total, 2 2GB cards = 2GB total. If you went SLI on 2GB cards- you would be set for years on 95-96% of all games.


ok last question, can my seasonic x650 gold psu handle two 770's?


depends on if you overclock or not- if it were a trash 650w definitely no, but Seasonic is a good one. I'd recommend 750W though.
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July 12, 2013 11:44:14 AM

since I already got the psu i will keep it. I have decided to go with the 770 now on 1440p. I will most likely go with the 4gb as I want this system to last and I will buy another 770 later on. I will probably add some monitors as well. thanks for everything. btw before i posted this answer my case and hard drive came in :) 
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