Will these rigs work fine ?

Nicolas145

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Hello I am upgrading my current rig and building a new one for my brother at the same time I'd like to know if everything will work properly and fit on these rigs and if it'll be the performance me and my brother want.

Rig 1 (Mine):

I'm pretty much looking for something that will run games on medium~high (Such as Metro Last Light, Battlefield 3), at a good fps, i'll run it on a 32" TV so the resolution will be 1920x1080p so i came up with this:

Motherboard Asus M5A78L-M LX/BR, AM3+, Chipset 760G

CPU AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2Ghz Turbo) 8MB

Memory Kingston HyperX BLU 8GB (2x4GB), DDR3 1333Mhz

Video card Geforce GTX 760 w/ ACW cooler 2gb 256 bits (If i need later i might buy a new mobo and a second 760 for SLI)

Power supply Corsair GS800 800w

HD Western Digital 1TB Caviar Blue, Sata III 64Mb, 7200RPM

Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO (I was gonna get a Hyper 212 EVO but they're all sold out, Will TX3 be that much of a difference ?, i'm just looking for a fan that will keep my pc quiet and cool, i don't plan on overclocking it)

Case Thermaltake V5

Rig 2 (My brother's):

My brother doesn't care about graphics, so as long as his rig can run games at low~high on good fps it's fine for him, He'll use a monitor with the resolution of 1680x1050 so i mixed some of the parts of my old rig i'm upgrading with some new ones and got this:

Motherboard ASRock Deluxe5

CPU AMD Phenom II x6 3.2GHZ

Memory Corsair 1333Mhz DDR3 2GBx4 = 8GB

AMD Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256 Bits X2 (Crossfire)

Power Supply GS700 700w

Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO

HD Western Digital 1TB Caviar Blue, Sata III 64Mb, 7200RPM

Case Thermaltake V3 AMD Edition.

If i missed any part please tell and i'll answer, Any help is welcome, Thank you.
 
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The Corsair GS800 has 4 PCIe power connectors, the GS700 only has 2. So that's not enough for a pair of 6870s or 760s. You can use adapters to convert some of the PSUs other connectors to PCIe, but that's not really a good solution.

The Hyper TX3 is going to run a few degrees hotter, but more importantly it will make significantly more noise. The TX3 fan runs at up to 2200 or 2800 RPM (depending on version), the Hyper 212 Evo fan maxes out at 1600 or 2000 RPM. The Hyper 212 Evo still gets more air flow, because it has a larger fan. But fan noise is mainly dependent on RPM, so the TX3 cools a little less but makes quite a bit more noise.

As for that error, that's a good question. Could be the motherboard.
The first build has a crappy motherboard, the RAM could be faster (1600 really is bog standard today), and the PSU is overkill. The Hyper TX3 is noticeably worse than the Hyper 212 Evo. If you can't find a Hyper 212 Evo, try similar-ish or slightly better coolers, like the Enermax ETS-T40.

The second build doesn't have the motherboard and CPU specced out. Anyhow, a Phenom II x6 is a waste of money no matter which one it is. Get an x4 965 or an FX-6300. Faster memory if you get the FX, with a Phenom II the 1333 is fine. Again the PSU is kinda overkill. The 6870 is okay, but not worth it today, particularly not in Crossfire (which in itself performs poorly, and is known to perform even worse on the 6870). Let him run with a single 6870 if you have that already, then upgrade to a newer single graphics card as and when it becomes necessary. A single 6870 should still be fine at 1680x1050 for the time being.
 

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You see, i'm not buying eveyrthing, I already have the Deluxe5, Phenom II and the 6870's, They were my old rig, The GS800 I already have too, since you say the GS700 i'm buying is overkill which one do you recommend getting, I might SLI in the future as i said, And i couldn't find the Enemax ETS 40 And the 1333 RAM i can switch for Another exactly the same Kingston Hyper X memory but with 1600Mhz, Crossfire is poor i know but i heard AMD is working on a "fix", don't really believe 'em so i guess i just might end up using only one 6870. Can't do much about the mobo through, it's the cheapest one i found, these rigs and upgrades are coming down very hard on me, it's about 2000$ i'm wasting.
 
Fair enough, the recycled parts are fine then. They just wouldn't be worth buying new today. :)

The GS700 kinda falls between two stools, it's overkill for single-GPU builds but most serious dual-GPU builds will require more connectors than it offers. For a single-GPU build a GS600 would be more than plenty, or eg. an XFX Core Edition 550W. For dual-GPU, 750W is usually plenty.

If you sell the second 6870 it might free up a bit of cash for a better motherboard. You could combine that with picking an 8320 instead of the 8350, and just overclocking to get back the lost performance and then some.
 

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Well if i get a GS700 and use my 800, Say I can use one for Crossfire 6870s and SLI 760s, Wouldn't they handle both rigs with the dual GPUs just fine ? It's kinda hard for me to sell the other 6870.

The CPUs I can get here ranges from the FX 8120 to the FX 8350.

And so i wanted to know will the TX3 EVO be fine ? I always hated the stock cooler of my Phenom II because it made too much noise, spinning at 7000RPM and my CPU would still get high tempetatures.
 

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My GS 800 came with some of those, So i'm sure the GS 700 will to, I was playing on keeping the GS800 on my rig for a future SLI with 760's and use the 700 on my brother's PC with the adaptors, the GS 800 won't need adaptors for the SLI right ?

You say the TX3 won't work as good as the Hyper 212, By how much you mean ? Will there be a notable difference in noise or temperature if i was to get a 212 in the place of the TX3 ? i'm just getting the TX3 because the 212 is sold out on all the websites i looked for it, If the TX3 isn't very noisy and keeps the Phenom and FX cool ( If i get the 8350 i might do that turbo to 4.2Ghz it says it has) Then it's ok for me.

Sorry if i'm asking too much questions, It's just that this will take alot of money off me and i need to be sure it'll work as i have planned to.

My old rig was working, but then i had some problems where it wouldn't boot up if i didn't leave it with one single stick of RAM first and then insert the other 3 and it would restart all of sudden when i was using it and i had to wait some days and insert a single stick of RAM first then all of them so it would go back to work, then it stopped completly, and nowadays if try to turn it on it'll boot but won't load windows, just shows a black screen, Would that be because any of the parts is damaged, If yes which one ?
 
The Corsair GS800 has 4 PCIe power connectors, the GS700 only has 2. So that's not enough for a pair of 6870s or 760s. You can use adapters to convert some of the PSUs other connectors to PCIe, but that's not really a good solution.

The Hyper TX3 is going to run a few degrees hotter, but more importantly it will make significantly more noise. The TX3 fan runs at up to 2200 or 2800 RPM (depending on version), the Hyper 212 Evo fan maxes out at 1600 or 2000 RPM. The Hyper 212 Evo still gets more air flow, because it has a larger fan. But fan noise is mainly dependent on RPM, so the TX3 cools a little less but makes quite a bit more noise.

As for that error, that's a good question. Could be the motherboard.
 
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Well BIOS seem to be working fine.