is this an acceptable build 750-850 loose budget

Dcm21 · Jul 13, 2013

Approximate Purchase Date:this week but could wait longer

Budget Range:750-850

System Usage: mainly school work and gaming but i was wondering if you guys thought i could get away with this build for now maybe play civ 5 on the integrated graphics till i can get a graphics card later. or if thats completly stupid maybe suggest some cards should i just pony up for a cheap graphics cards or keep waiting on it because gaming can wait but a nice work computer is a lil bit of a higher priority can expand in to a gaming comp later maybe.

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com, but doesn't absolutely have to be

Location: CA/ San Diego, USA
available

Parts Preferences: i would like to go with intel but its probably a unjust prejudice i have for them so im open to ideas

Overclocking: Maybe? theres a good deal on the memory and motherboard at newegg 100 bucks off and i wanted to get parts that were good going forward but im pretty noob at this so im gonna see how successful i am with the build before i can say for sure on the OCing but with that being said should i go for a non k cpu and a more modest motherboard? or do you think its worth the difference to retain the options of unlocking its full potential and i do want to throw in a better graphics card at some point to play Total war rome 2

SLI or Crossfire: maybe

Additional Comments:

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: my comp is 7 years old and been treated poorly so not very salvageable parts left

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1ghVG
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1ghVG/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1ghVG/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($198.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Scout 2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $775.43
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-13 16:24 EDT-0400) so any comments are suggestions on this builds parts, that im paying too much for, or just picked bad options please let me know. or if im hopelessly lost on my build please show me what you think would be best. sorry for the long rambling post probably comes off pretty stupid looking compared to the very computer knowledgeable members of this board.

Novuake · Jul 13, 2013

OK right, sooooo you would need a GPU for 1080p gaming. If you ahve a 12xx*768 display then you can game on the integrated GPUP.
You can save a lot on the mobo, that one is pointlessly expensive.
You can save some on the RAM too. 8GB of 1866MHz RAM is more than enough for pretty much any normal use.
You can drop the SSD too IF you want. Otherwise there are cheaper and better option, either the 840 Pro for a proper SSD or like a Crucial M4, which is much cheaper.
Overkill PSU unless you seriously plan on SLI, and that specific unit is not good. You pay for what you get. Get a TX650 v2 for around 89$ or 69$ after mail in rebate.

You can also save a little if you go for Ivy, which is like 7% slower in synthetics but overclocks better, for gaming and general use there will be no difference but it will save you 30$ on the CPU alone, not to mention the mobo will be cheaper.

What resolution is the monitor you have?

Dcm21 · Jul 13, 2013

its 1024 x 768 at the moment.

Novuake · Jul 13, 2013

Dcm21 :

Wow, well then you could theoretically play SOME games on the integrated. LOL...

Gimme a few minutes and I will see what I can put together on partspicker.

jinayhvora · Jul 13, 2013

i would say keep ur CPU and reduce the motherboard to a Z87X-D3H, get 8GB (2x4) 1600MHz RAM, change the PSU to something from Antec, Corsair, Seasonic or XFX

Dcm21 · Jul 13, 2013

ha yea thanks for knocking some sense into me it was a kooky build. i was just looking for deals but not really knowing if the price visavi performance scale was really good on these components. its probably gonna be smarter to use someone elses blueprint

Novuake · Jul 13, 2013

Much better, now there is some headroom for a graphics card. Maybe a GTX650ti BOOST 2GB.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1gks9
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1gks9/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1gks9/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($137.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.29 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Scout 2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $678.23
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-13 18:10 EDT-0400)

Although I would still spends a little more on the PSU. This one : http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cmpsu650txv2

Dcm21 · Jul 13, 2013

ah thanks man it will be a lot easier working off this list to bad i cant get to a micro center they have a good price on the processor. ill get the better power unit because the cyberpower people in my last comp gave me bad psu that fryed it a year later although the one you found does have a nice combo discount with the cpu hhmm. I guess i might as well get a graphics card now too if you think the gtx650ti boost is worth it. thanks alot for your help i'm someone who is paralyzed by analysis so this input really helps in moving forward with a project i'm a bit anxious about. The thought of buying all this stuff and messing up is a bit nerve racking.

Novuake · Jul 13, 2013

Hahaha that is why we are here. Just make sure to get the BOOST 2GB. Not the normal or 1GB version. It goes for around 160$. So even with the better PSU and the graphics card you still come in under your budget. You can even go a little better on the SSD to a Samsung 840 Pro and STILL be within budget...

And remember the SSD will not improve gaming. So its worth dropping it if you will be gaming more than working. For general use an SSD is really great though.

JPNpower · Jul 13, 2013

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Novuake · Jul 13, 2013

JPNpower :

Huh???? Relevancy maybe?

JPNpower · Jul 13, 2013

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Novuake · Jul 13, 2013

JPNpower :

hahaha just kinda out of place... But ok...

Dcm21 · Jul 13, 2013

ok in an effort to fit the graphics card into the budget i've tinkered with it and moved back to the 1155 socket i figure by the time they change from 1150 ill be ready to upgrade but doubt it will happen any sooner.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1gmo9
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1gmo9/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1gmo9/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($104.29 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card ($159.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Scout 2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $776.21
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-13 20:10 EDT-0400)
i couldn't upgrade to the better power supply you suggested due to needing some budget relief and theres a combo with the processor and this motherboard comes with 8gbs of free ram which really allows me to keep ssd and graphics card. so in less i'm making some blunder i think i'm gonna go forward with this but would love to hear anyones thoughts on the matter.

Novuake · Jul 13, 2013

Seems good, just get another one of those ballistic Crucial, you need to be running in dual channel.
Normally I would not get those but they are free and extreme low voltage, you could probably get to 1866/2133MHz on 1.5v with a slight OC.

The better PSU is worth it by the way. Also consider a Coolermaster HYper 212 EVO CPU cooler for around 30$ so you can OC some.

Dcm21 · Jul 13, 2013

thanks for the heads up on that ram didn't catch that caveat. hhmm if i change the psu to the higher with no combo and get another 8gb stick it kills the value of going back in sockets, although with double the ram, so now i'm back to contemplating the haswell build lol i'll wait on the oc sleeve i'll see if i can even build it first. in less its something i have to do when it first goes in.

Novuake · Jul 13, 2013

Dcm21 :

Hahaha sorry, it's one of those things... Decisions decisions.

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