expanding my wifi range

Rafram Chaddad

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hi,
i live in a remote house in the summer, on an island. there's nothing to buy there. and i am going there soon. i managed to get internet in one of the rooms. the wifi range is covering the room itself and some of the kitchen that is close.
this is a big house, arabic style, and i'll be grateful to any simple solution i can get before going there.
do you know this kind of thing?
http://dx.com/p/300mbps-wireless-networking-signal-amplifier-wi-fi-repeater-w-wps-function-white-eu-plug-223224

how it's working?
i do not need to be covering the other side, only inside the house.
i am looking for cheap solution. but also one that will work :)

thanx!
 
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Okay first you have to know the distance, second putting your eyeball where the Internet Access Point is (from your service provider) and look directly at the direction you want to have the signal go to. This second point take a pen and paper, now write down how many walls, doors whatever exists between the Internet Access Point and the maximum range you want the signal to reach.

These two are the most important factors in determining how to make this succeed. If you have (for example ) two brick walls to go through, getting a single simple repeater won't cut it. The more and thicker the number of materials and the distance between areas determines how best to 'plan' out the extenstion. Here is a chart both...

fyrye

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http://www.newegg.com/Wireless-Range-Extender-Media-Bridge/SubCategory/ID-2948?Order=PRICE

Look for a repeater/extender. Which means take existing wifi and extend it to wifi.
Read the reviews and make an informed decision on the specifications and reviews of each product.

Bridge means to take existing WiFi network and make it wired.
Access point means to take existing wired network and make it wireless.

Some offer all 3 operations in one device.
 
Okay first you have to know the distance, second putting your eyeball where the Internet Access Point is (from your service provider) and look directly at the direction you want to have the signal go to. This second point take a pen and paper, now write down how many walls, doors whatever exists between the Internet Access Point and the maximum range you want the signal to reach.

These two are the most important factors in determining how to make this succeed. If you have (for example ) two brick walls to go through, getting a single simple repeater won't cut it. The more and thicker the number of materials and the distance between areas determines how best to 'plan' out the extenstion. Here is a chart both (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11) in Feet and Meters to give you the distance the signal can reach in the BEST scenario possible. You should deduct 5-10 Feet (sorry I don't know Meters to well) for each Wall / Door / etc. a signal goes through.

I would professionally hand sketch a layout of the Internet Access Point, number of wall/etc. the point most I want the signal, then draw to scale the ranges and layout a circle for where your current Wifi reaches and the size circle around the maximum wireless point. That will tell you if you need say just one repeater, maybe five? Maybe with the number of walls it be better to run a cable between points and you would drop from one hub, then reattach on the new wireless point when your in that room. There are many variations.

The newest signal is call 802.11ac, which will sit right next to the now to 'expire' 802.11n standard (g/b aren't used except by legacy devices and should be replaced as soon as possible). ac give longer range, more devices to be on at the same time, and faster signal (won't change how 'slow' the Internet is) between devices in your house. I would suggest, as your taking this point forward to have your network, to invest in 802.11ac devices (adapters, routers, range extenders, etc.) but it all depends on the distances, layout and mnumber of 'things' the signal has to penetrate.

You might want to think of it as shortwave radio, the closer to the signal with the less things in the way the better it sounds, same for Wifi.
 
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Rafram Chaddad

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thankyou fyrye and Tom for your detailed answer

i think that the easiest thing for me will be to take a cable, from the router is (in the corner of the house, almost outside), through the window, into the big court in the middle of the house, and from there to "project" the internet.

so i'll just need some device that will take the signal by cable, and then spread it, no?


 

fyrye

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Yes that is one solution depending on the range you need. This will give you something around ~200 ft or so @ 2.4 ghz depending on obstructions.
You would be looking specifically for an Access Point to connect to the current WiFi router and extending it via ethernet cable.
 

Rafram Chaddad

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ah, ok. so before i go there i'll need to get a lan cable and access point. i know i'm sound stupid, but there is something about the letters or the protocols.
can i get something just like that?
http://dx.com/p/300mbps-wireless-networking-signal-amplifier-wi-fi-repeater-w-wps-function-white-eu-plug-223224

i don't want to dig into protocols. and i have no clue what router i have on the island. it's probably old and slow..




 

fyrye

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http://dx.com/p/portable-2-4ghz-802-11b-g-n-300mbps-wireless-wifi-repeater-ac-100-240v-107457
Will work for your existing WiFi signal and extend it to other areas in your house. (repeater mode) So no need for wires. You can optionally use a wire (AP/Access point mode) instead if your existing wireless router doesn't support forwarding. This will also mean that the speed will not be reduced by half due to repeater mode limitations.
Keep in mind though, that repeater has EU specification plugs.

You will need a Cat 6 ethernet patch cable to use it in Access Point Mode:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10232

The Access point mode will be connected like so.
Internet Modem -> ethernet cable -> Existing Wireless Router (WAN Port) -> Port 1 of Existing wireless router -> ethernet cable -> Repeater/Access point -> wireless signal -> PCs

The repeater mode will work like so:
Internet Modem -> ethernet cable -> Existing Wireless Router (WAN Port) -> Wireless Signal -> Repeater/Access point -> wireless signal -> PCs

The linked repeater supports: IEEE 802.11. b/g/n (which is the current standard protocols and they are backward compatible)
The next generation is currently 802.11ac which was just recently released. So you more than likely do not have it, again backward compatible if you did.
 

Rafram Chaddad

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ok, let's simplify it...

i will connect my working modem with lan cable to this white thing
http://dx.com/p/portable-2-4ghz-802-11b-g-n-300mbps-wireless-wifi-repeater-ac-100-240v-107457

and then, my internet signal will be bigger around this one?
there is a need to configure something?
i just guess it will be impossible to find the modem password and so on. it's old french thing. or something




 
Well we have a problem here, see if we 'repeat' the wireless signal then you would have to know how far your current signal extends. So it would be something like (guessing since we have no measurements!!):

WiFi/MODEM IN ROOM NOTE THE OVERLAPS below
((( X 70M circle )))
__________((( Repeater plugged into))) Outside the room
__________((( Outlet 70M circle )))
http://dx.com/p/portable-2-4ghz-802-11b-g-n-300mbps-wireless-wifi-repeater-ac-100-240v-107457
___________________________((( Repeater plugged into))) Middle of courtyard
___________________________((( Outlet 70M circle )))
http://dx.com/p/portable-2-4ghz-802-11b-g-n-300mbps-wireless-wifi-repeater-ac-100-240v-107457
___________________________________________((( Repeater plugged into))) By room we want
___________________________________________((( Outlet 70M circle ))) Wifi in.
http://dx.com/p/portable-2-4ghz-802-11b-g-n-300mbps-wireless-wifi-repeater-ac-100-240v-107457


The other option would be
WiFi/MODEM IN ROOM --- Connect Ethernet Cable 6e
((( X 70M circle ))) ________________ |out through window towards courtyard
_______________________________|
_______________________________| No More then 100Meters
_______________________________| across courtyard
_______________________________|
_______________________________|
_____________________________{{Y}}Electrical outlet protected from water
_____________________________(((( X 70M circle)))))
_____________________________Plug in NEW Wifi Router Different 'network' name
like this: http://dx.com/p/wl-wn523n2-portable-wall-plug-wireless-n-router-w-wi-fi-repeater-black-white-eu-plug-196817


The first solution the network name when searching for Wifi will be the same name repeated so no matter where your walking between the Router/Modem and the target point, you don't lose signal (like a cell phone).

The second solution you connect in either the Wifi/Modem (Say Room1) then drop signal till you walk in range of the new router (Say Room2) and would need to reconnect to that one. Vice versa when you walk back to Room1.
 

fyrye

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Also keep in mind for some wireless routers and roaming between hotspots, the base station will need to support roaming.
Otherwise it will function more like an access point dropping your connection as you roam from hotspot to hotspot requiring you to connect to the repeater's SSID instead of the Gateway's SSID.

Like so: Base station Settings for connecting to a repeater to support roaming.
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