1440p or 1080p 120hz monitor? For gaming

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Hello, I'am gonna build a gaming computer. I'am gonna buy gtx 780 and play on a single monitor. I want to get the best K/D as possible and the best graphic. I'am not sure if I should get 1440p 60hz monitor or 120hz 1080p monitor. What will be best for a gtx 780 and for me.
 
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The 144Hz Asus looks great. Watch the VIDEO at 1080p fullscreen. Link again:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313

*In the video you can see he could choose 60Hz, 85Hz, 100Hz, 120Hz or 144Hz for 1920x1080.

The 27" version above costs $100 more, however I'm not sure if you'd want a 27" screen with "only" 1920x1080 as you tend to be able to see the individual pixels. I haven't seen that model up close. I suppose you could just MOVE IT further away if that bugs you (which would then be the same as the 24" closer).

**Can input HDMI and output audio to desktop speakers for movies/games etc. I tested this with my GTX680 on my U2711 and it works great. I haven't compared audio quality versus onboard or sound card...

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FYI a 120hz 1080p monitor will display 60 FPS at best anyway. IMO 1440 looks better than 1080, although a lot depends on the quality of the display and what size you're looking at. A GTX 780 will easily power both (assuming the rest of your system is up to snuff).
 

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idk where you read a 120hz monitor will only do 60fps at best but im running 2 120hz monitors and a 60hz monitor and you can clearly tell the difference, you will notice less eye strain, fluid movements and a higher frame rate. I also hope a 1440p is better than 1080p but for gaming 1440p is going to bog down his fps due to a better picture.
 

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Well, my rest of the system will be:
Corsair TX 850W PSU
Intel Core i5-4670K
MSI Z87-G45 Gaming, Socket-1150
Cooler Master Seidon 120M
Crucial DDR3 BallistiX Sport 16GB KIT
Gainward GeForce GTX 780 3GB PhysX CUDA
SSD: Kingston SSDNow V300 120GB
HDD: WD desktop blue 1TB

Anything I should change?
 
It's personal preference, but I'll give you some points:

1) I prefer my LARGE 27" screen, even though I game at 1920x1080 most of the time because most games at 2560x1440 look almost exactly THE SAME. Main exceptions are Torchlight, Diablo 3, Starcraft 2 etc (games with small text/HUDs). Even at 1920x1080, it still looks better than a 27" with a NATIVE resolution of 1920x1080.

2) I prefer 2560x1440 for desktop applications (must setup right: DPI scaling of 25% or so, and CTRL-Mouse Scroll to change size in browsers).

3) Some 120Hz monitors have a 60Hz HDMI input (DVI is 120Hz PC format; HDMI is HDTV format).

4) 3D support?

5) Even a GTX780 will struggle to maintain 120FPS in many games, though you still have the option of Adaptive HALF VSYNC for 60FPS VSYNC on 120Hz monitors.

6) *MOST 27", 2560x1440 monitors have issues such as bleeding etc. Be very careful when buying one. The one with the least issues may be the Dell U2711 but it's also $1000. Other than slightly sparkly anti-glare (doesn't affect gameplay) mine's been perfect for three years except when it failed but the new monitor arrived next day with a pre-paid waybill so I paid nothing.

SUMMARY:
If you can find a 27", 2560x1440 screen with no issues, it really is awesome to game that large. The large screen makes you feel more immersed and it's great for top-down games like Starcraft 2 with the extra real estate.

Be prepared to do a lot of research and spend some money though.
 

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I know. a 1440p costs more money. Picture is important but my K/D is more important. What do you think. :s
 

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Thanks. But money is the problem! I'am gonna use 2000 dollars on the pc and only 300 dollars on the screen :s. Is it worth to save money a month or so to get that beast screen?
 
120Hz displaying only 60FPS:
I think he's mixing the monitor with HDTV's that use motion smoothing. 120Hz MONITORS can display 120FPS, that's the entire point to get 3D at 60FPS effective (each eye).

HDTV's work differently. The input is still 60Hz but several frames are sampled and the HDTV creates ARTIFICIAL frames. For 120Hz Motionflow it's one fake per one real, and for 240Hz Motionflow it's 3 fake for one real.
 

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just get the 1080p trust me, most pro players who play fps usually wont run ultra everything either bc they want the fastest fps then can so usually ultra/high on settings with over 120hz monitor
 

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I got a 55" TV on my room that I bought last year that costed 2500 dollars. Will it be better to play on that? I don't even know which resolution it got.
 


I can't answer the question of whether it's worth it to you as I said it's $1000 and I love mine, but if your budget is $300 roughly for a screen you shouldn't even be thinking about a 2560x1440 monitor. I recommend you get the BEST QUALITY you can for that budget which would likely be a 60Hz 23" or 24" monitor.

I'll Google and see what's available for $300 to $400.
 

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Thanks for using your time to search that for me. But is it any cheap sites I can buy my monitor on that can send it to Norway? I've really seen many nice people on toms hardware and you're one of them.
 

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i would not recommend it, because those large tvs have a higher refresh rate which will cause mouse lag. even if the tv has game mode and able to drop the hertz it still wont be as good as a monitor with a 1ms response time compared to like 40ms on those big Tvs
 

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Okay, I was thinking that was way to big to xD. Which sites can send monitors to Norway? o.o.
 

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im 90% sure there is shipping to norway from amzon
 

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Check the specs. This is one of those wonderful lies that display manufacturers are happy to let the public perpetuate. The image will be refreshed 120 times per second (or whatever) however these images are duplicated. This is done to get a fast response time. In most cases a 120 Hz display will do a 2:1 pulldown and display a frame twice. This may look better to some people depending on the setup (I prefer 60Hz to 120Hz because I see jarring motion on this type of display, even newer ones). 3D displays in particular (like the Asus above) will take a single frame for each eye and display them for very short periods of time one right after the other (I'm guessing 5:12 pulldown without looking at specs) to smooth out the motion hence the 144Hz. Software (in particular FRAPS) will tell you that you're displaying more FPS than the monitor is capable of displaying, the extra frames just get dropped. And we're not even into input lag yet. True 120Hz displays exist however they tend to be really expensive.

Again all of this is moot since a lot depends on the person actually looking at the display. What looks best is very subjective. Best thing to do is to go out and look at displays and see what works best for you. Personally I prefer to game on my 42" 1080p TV versus my 21" 1440p monitor simply because of the size of the display even-though the monitor looks better.
 
Here's a LIST of monitors. How to compare:

**Make a LIST of MUST-HAVE features, then "wanted" features.
- price
- resolution (1920x1080 and 1920x1200)
- inputs (HDMI HDCP is nice for BluRay/game console)
- speaker PASSTHROUGH (i.e. HDMI HDCP input to stereo output for desktop speakers)
- IPS/TFT (panel type)
- refresh rate
- PRO and Customer reviews

I don't have time to compare, I just went to NEWEGG and looked for ones in your price range with good reviews. You can obviously do the same. Not all monitors are ideal for gaming and some may have refresh/ghosting issues so be careful.

LIST:
Dell UltraSharp U2412M Black IPS Panel 24" 8ms
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260047

Dell UltraSharp U2312HM IPS-Panel Black 23" 8ms
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260055

BenQ XL2420T Black-Red 24" 5ms (2ms GTG) HDMI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014270

ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms (GTG) HDMI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313

ASUS MX239H Silver / Black 23" 5ms (GTG) HDMI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236310

ASUS VS24AH-P Black 24" 5ms (GTG) HDMI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236331

LG 23EA53V-P Black 23" 5ms (GTG) HDMI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005409

HP Pavilion 23xi Black / Silver 23" 7ms HDMI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824176424
 
The 144Hz Asus looks great. Watch the VIDEO at 1080p fullscreen. Link again:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313

*In the video you can see he could choose 60Hz, 85Hz, 100Hz, 120Hz or 144Hz for 1920x1080.

The 27" version above costs $100 more, however I'm not sure if you'd want a 27" screen with "only" 1920x1080 as you tend to be able to see the individual pixels. I haven't seen that model up close. I suppose you could just MOVE IT further away if that bugs you (which would then be the same as the 24" closer).

**Can input HDMI and output audio to desktop speakers for movies/games etc. I tested this with my GTX680 on my U2711 and it works great. I haven't compared audio quality versus onboard or sound card but it sounded great to me and I'm picky (assume it's decoded on the graphics card but not certain).
 
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Thanks. I found some very interesting screens. I've been thinking on these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260047

http://www.amazon.com/VG278HE-27-Inch-Screen-LED-lit-Monitor/dp/B00906HM6K/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1373909808&sr=1-1&keywords=asus+144hz

or maybe the 24 inch screen of that model.

What will be best for a gtx 780?


 

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the 27" is the only one off amazon that can ship internationally, i just tend to buy from amazon.
 

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http://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraSharp-U2412M-LED-Monitor/dp/B005JN9310 ...
 
Axzevos,
More than once you have asked:
"What is best for a GTX780?"

There's no single right answer.

We've discussed your BUDGET, and listed various monitors. I'm not quite sure what you're asking with this question.

Do you want greater than 60Hz?
Do you want 3D capability for movies and games?
Do you want HDMI HDCP input for consoles, and passthrough audio to desktop speakers?

Anyway, I already gave my recommendation which was that Asus 24" 144Hz monitor if you can get it. If NOT, then give me some choices of what's available to you.

**In the LINK ABOVE, you linked a 60Hz 1920x1200 monitor from Dell. Your title of this post is 2560x1440 vs 120Hz. Are you interested in 120Hz or not?