Haswell with dual GTX 780 watercooled build - advice?

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Im about to totally revamp my system, it's an old custom built with an i-3 and a geforce 8800gt. anyway i think ive figured out what im going to get, the budget is just under 3000$.


Processor: i7 - 4770k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901
Motherboard: MSI G45 gaming Z87
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130693
GPU: 2 x Zotac GTX 780
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500300
Memory: 4 x 4GB G.Skill Sniper Series DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231670
PSU: Rosewill Bronze Series RBR1000-M
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182188
Case: NZXT Switch 810 White
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146088

I already have my storage devices and my optical drives, i dont think im missing anything else.

Watercooling setup:
So this is my first time water cooling and im a little nervous about ordering the wrong things or messing someone up so this is really why im posting, i want to make sure im doing this right and i know how to put it all together.

Pump: Swiftech MCP35X
http://www.xoxide.com/swiftech-mcp35x-pump.html
Radiators:
1 x Black Ice GTS Stealth 360mm
http://www.xoxide.com/blackice-gtsstealth360-radiator.html
1 x Black Ice GTS Stealth 240mm
http://www.xoxide.com/blackice-gtsstealth240xf-radiator.html
Reservoir: XSPC Dual DDC 5.25" bay reservoir
http://www.xoxide.com/dual-ddc-dual-br.html
Water blocks:
1 x XSPC RayStorm CPU Water Block(I really really wanted the Swiftech Appogee White Water Block but i couldn't find anywhere that had it in stock. If someone knows where i could get one i would be forever grateful)
http://www.xoxide.com/xspc-raystormcpu-waterblock-intel.html
2 x Swiftech Komodo GTX Titan Water Block(it's a titan water block but as i understand it all titan water blocks should be compatible with the 780)
http://www.xoxide.com/swiftech-komodo-nv-gtx-titan-full-cover-vga-waterblock-w-backplate.html
Tubing and routing:
This is the layout i have in mind right now, distilled water starts at the reservoir, goes into the pump, then to the 240mm radiator, then to the cpu, then to the 360mm radiator, then i'll split the tube with a t-fitting, each gpu will get it's own tube, then they will come back together with another t-fitting, then it will return to the reservoir. Im planning on using 1/2 in fittings(i think i need 20 of them) and 7/16 tubing. I dont know if i should get red/transparent, black/transparent, white/transparent, plain transparent or some combination of those as far as tubing goes. Im going for the red/black/white color scheme so if you have and experience with what looks the best let me know.

Im mostly just looking for general advice on the build, double checking to make sure everything's compatible, and thoughts on the water cooling rig/someone to talk me through how it all comes together.

Thanks in advance guys.
 
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First off the reservoir is completely wrong. You probably only need one pump and the one you chose is fantastic for the job. You also have to know that the water would be moving pretty fast. Fast enough for the water to be the same temperature everywhere. There is no need to have a radiator placed before each block or funky T joints because that won't increase performance. A good thing this is, because it saves you a lot of work.

The diameter of fittings should match the internal diameter of the hoses. 1/2" barbs go with 1/2" ID tubing. You need 2 fittings for each component. Compression fittings are more secure but most people avoid them because they are a ridiculous $7+ each. In that case I recommend clamps. The Koolance clamps are...
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Like i said, first time water cooling, if you dont mind explaining compression fittings that would be great. im also going to go look them up but i'd like to hear what makes you say they're dope because i like things that are dope. And yeah the power supply can be changed out, ill go look into that.

 
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Ok compression fittings have two parts. a barb and an actual fitting that goes over the tube and holds the tube into place and creates a seal so that you dont have to use a clamp on your barbs. Check out NCIXtechtips,linustechtips or timetolivecustoms on youtube for their water cooling guide. Its alot easier to watch and see whats going on than me trying to explain the whole process. But compression fittings look really clean and neat and sexy
 
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I like the sound of the compression fittings some im going to use those instead. And how's this Seasonic 1050W X-Series for a PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151110
 
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First off the reservoir is completely wrong. You probably only need one pump and the one you chose is fantastic for the job. You also have to know that the water would be moving pretty fast. Fast enough for the water to be the same temperature everywhere. There is no need to have a radiator placed before each block or funky T joints because that won't increase performance. A good thing this is, because it saves you a lot of work.

The diameter of fittings should match the internal diameter of the hoses. 1/2" barbs go with 1/2" ID tubing. You need 2 fittings for each component. Compression fittings are more secure but most people avoid them because they are a ridiculous $7+ each. In that case I recommend clamps. The Koolance clamps are very nice and cheap and offer just as much security.

Also there are radiators with different thickness. I recommend something thicker if space isn't an issue. There are 30mm, 60mm, and 80mm radiators. A thicker one improves performance quite a bit

I don't really like the Swiftech Apogee waterblocks after owning one. They are very restrictive and slows your flow more than any block I have even used. I am using the EK Supremacy right now and its alright. There is a Transparent EK block if that is cool with you.

You need to buy fans. Don't cheap out with fans. Some of the best fans out there right now for radiators is the Scythe Gentle Typhoon or the Corsair AF series.

There are UV reactive tubing if you want the UV look.

And Yes! the PSU is soooooo bad compared to the rest of the system. If you wouldn't mind getting a Seasonic PSU, they make the best stuff. Corsair sells a lot of re-branded Seasonic PSUs so they are cool too. For that system, 850W should suffice if you want something cheaper. The entire system would draw around 400W from what I can tell and PSUs run most efficiently at 50% so 850W - 1000W is a good target.
 
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Alright, thanks for the advice, i really appreciate it. Considering what you just said im thinking about the EK Supremacy Full Copper Water Block
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20226/ex-blc-1462/EK_Supremacy_Universal_CPU_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Clean_Full_Copper_EK-Supremacy_Clean_CSQ_-_Full_Copper.html?tl=c603s1912b133
and the Alphacool Repack Dual 5.25" Reservoir
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/15656/ex-res-355/Alphacool_Repack_Dual_525_Acrylic_Reservoir_-_Clear_-_Dual_D5_MCP655_15167.html?tl=g30c97s168
it says the dimensions are 172 x 148 x 84mm (L x W x H), is that what you were referring too? Also im only going to use the 360mm radiator i mentioned above, will that be enough to keep both gpu's and my cpu cool? The loop would be configured so that it started at the reservoir, went to the pump, then radiator, then cpu, then gpu1, then gpu2, then back to the reservoir. All the fittings would be 1/2" ID Compression Fittings and the tubing would be a mix of red, black, and white 1/2" ID tubing. And ive decided to go with the aforementioned Seasonic 1050W power supply.
 
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