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My PC has a very bad and lagging performance , I want to know what next upgrade that I need

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July 15, 2013 8:22:11 PM

Let's start , my specs are as follows :
Processor : AMD Phenom II 550 x2 3.1Ghz 6mb cache
Motherboard : Gigabyte GA 880 ud2h - Vga on-board ati 4250
Vga : SAPPHIRE HD 7770 GHz OC Edition 1GB GDDR5
Ram : 4gb Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz
Dvd R+W LG
Case ThermalTake V3 black ( Power Supply included 450 W ThermalTake )
OS : Windows 7 32 bit

So my pc though it maybe considered a medium to low-end pc , yet its performance is awful in games . For example Battlefield 3 on low settings runs almost between 20~27 FPS at max , with annoying lagging and stuttering that make games unplayable. Yet when I search Utube I see people with Athlon II x2 & 7770 & MB 990 playing battlefield 3 on ultra with stable 30 FPS (considering fraps).

So my questions to the experts :
1- What should I do first , add another 4gb Ram + changing the mobo ?? (and what mobo will you advice me with)
or should I add another 4gb Ram and changing the processor ?? (and also what a mid-ranged processor would you advice me)

2- Is it better to run on 64-bit windows ? or according to my specs it wouldn't offer too much ??

3- Considering the PowerSupply , Should I change it ? I mean as long as the PC is running doesn't that mean that it could supply enough power ? or maybe the power supply is the main problem ??

Waiting for replies , and sorry for my crap English xD

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July 15, 2013 8:33:13 PM

ok, first of all with the most obvious:

32 bit windows only supports up to 3GB of RAM, upgrade that to 64 bit for free 1gb of ram!

battlefield 3 is a taxing game, but it does support quad, or even six cores, you only have a phenom II x2 dual core, you could upgrade that to a phenom II x4 which is a pretty decent gaming CPU.

games are most taxing on graphics cards, maybe swapping yours for a 7850 would be best.

as for your questions:
1. adding more ram with a 32 bit OS is fruitless, as i've said before, the processor could use an upgrade aswell.
2. yes.
3. just because it runs doesnt mean there is enough power, the ammount of power your rig uses largely depends on what its doing, doing nothing on windows desktop on a high end computer would probably not use more then 200w, but put it under load and you could have computers that use 1000w+.
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July 15, 2013 8:35:24 PM

I would suggest a better processor first then a quick upgrade to a video card. Such as the 760. I'd suggest an fx 6350 for you.

1. You should add another 4gb ram stick with the same timings. It would be ideal to get an identical one to the one you currently have. I believe the 6350 is an AM3+ so a new MOBO is in order
2. To get the benifit of 8gb of ram you will NEED a 64 bit OS. There is no way around this
3. If you upgrade the CPU GPU and RAM yes at least a 500 watt and if you would want to XFire in the future I'd suggest a 750 WATT plus.
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July 15, 2013 8:41:40 PM

Rhavi Marques said:
ok, first of all with the most obvious:

32 bit windows only supports up to 3GB of RAM, upgrade that to 64 bit for free 1gb of ram!

battlefield 3 is a taxing game, but it does support quad, or even six cores, you only have a phenom II x2 dual core, you could upgrade that to a phenom II x4 which is a pretty decent gaming CPU.

games are most taxing on graphics cards, maybe swapping yours for a 7850 would be best.

as for your questions:
1. adding more ram with a 32 bit OS is fruitless, as i've said before, the processor could use an upgrade aswell.
2. yes.
3. just because it runs doesnt mean there is enough power, the ammount of power your rig uses largely depends on what its doing, doing nothing on windows desktop on a high end computer would probably not use more then 200w, but put it under load and you could have computers that use 1000w+.


Great , that was so fast. First of all thanks for replying , and I'll install a fresh 64-bit of windows 7 now , also I'll keep in mind upgrading processor & vga , but does that mean the mother board 880 is fine to work with phenom II x4 ?
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July 15, 2013 8:43:48 PM

danger9 said:
Rhavi Marques said:
ok, first of all with the most obvious:

32 bit windows only supports up to 3GB of RAM, upgrade that to 64 bit for free 1gb of ram!

battlefield 3 is a taxing game, but it does support quad, or even six cores, you only have a phenom II x2 dual core, you could upgrade that to a phenom II x4 which is a pretty decent gaming CPU.

games are most taxing on graphics cards, maybe swapping yours for a 7850 would be best.

as for your questions:
1. adding more ram with a 32 bit OS is fruitless, as i've said before, the processor could use an upgrade aswell.
2. yes.
3. just because it runs doesnt mean there is enough power, the ammount of power your rig uses largely depends on what its doing, doing nothing on windows desktop on a high end computer would probably not use more then 200w, but put it under load and you could have computers that use 1000w+.


Great , that was so fast. First of all thanks for replying , and I'll install a fresh 64-bit of windows 7 now , also I'll keep in mind upgrading processor & vga , but does that mean the mother board 880 is fine to work with phenom II x4 ?



yes, with your motherboard socket (AM3) the best processor you could fit in it is the phenom II x6, but i dont think you can get your hands on them anymore, so your best bet is the x4, if you want to upgrade it past that, you'd best find a AM3+ socket motherboard and get an FX-6350 or 8350 processor.
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July 15, 2013 8:44:29 PM

frillybob101 said:
I would suggest a better processor first then a quick upgrade to a video card. Such as the 760. I'd suggest an fx 6350 for you.

1. You should add another 4gb ram stick with the same timings. It would be ideal to get an identical one to the one you currently have. I believe the 6350 is an AM3+ so a new MOBO is in order
2. To get the benifit of 8gb of ram you will NEED a 64 bit OS. There is no way around this
3. If you upgrade the CPU GPU and RAM yes at least a 500 watt and if you would want to XFire in the future I'd suggest a 750 WATT plus.


Thanks for the quick reply , but what is 760 ? gtx 760 or what :D  ?
And okay I'll keep in mind upgrading processor and then to get another vga card to crossfire it with my existing one , Thanks for the great help :) 
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July 15, 2013 8:47:19 PM

danger9 said:
frillybob101 said:
I would suggest a better processor first then a quick upgrade to a video card. Such as the 760. I'd suggest an fx 6350 for you.

1. You should add another 4gb ram stick with the same timings. It would be ideal to get an identical one to the one you currently have. I believe the 6350 is an AM3+ so a new MOBO is in order
2. To get the benifit of 8gb of ram you will NEED a 64 bit OS. There is no way around this
3. If you upgrade the CPU GPU and RAM yes at least a 500 watt and if you would want to XFire in the future I'd suggest a 750 WATT plus.


Thanks for the quick reply , but what is 760 ? gtx 760 or what :D  ?
And okay I'll keep in mind upgrading processor and then to get another vga card to crossfire it with my existing one , Thanks for the great help :) 

he means the geforce GTX 760 graphics card, a very nice card for about 250 dollars - which would be much better then adding another 7770 in crossfire.
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July 15, 2013 8:48:24 PM

The first upgrade I would make is the psu. Thermaltake psus aren't known for their quality and probably has lots of rippling, which can lead to the psu blowing up in the future. I would grab the XFX 550w for ~$50-60. Great psu for the price.

I wouldn't be too quick on the ram or gpu upgrade. Most games only use 4gb of RAM, so you should be nice. Although you will be hitting 100% load and you can't really multi-task.
Your gpu is fine for a budget rig, it's mostly the cpu bottlenecking as a dual core cpu bottlenecks a lot now.
A FX-6300 with a 970 chipset motherboard is a great upgrade. If that's too expensive for you, a Phenom ii x4 965 as a place-holder is a great budget processor.

I would also hold off for a 64bit os too. Assuming you're on a budget, it's better to upgrade the processor and motherboard first before upgrading the OS and ram. After processor and motherboard, you can go for the 8gb of ram and get 64bit os or just go for a better gpu.
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July 16, 2013 7:46:57 PM

First of all I want to thank all of you for helping me in my issue. I've just installed a fresh version of 64-bit , and guess what , the whole system has been pushed up a little. I've noticed a significant improvement in nearly all application performance (specially winrar & windows explorer). In games , the annoying stuttering nearly disappeared , and now I can play BF3 on high with a slight lag in loading scenes only (which is great according to my previous experience with it).

My next upgrade will go for Phenom II x4 & PSU , as Im saving money for Ps4 :D  , so I'll leave my pc with a budget rig , and maybe after few months I'll go for FX-6300 and GTX 760 if I can afford it :) 

Thanks again guys for help , appreciate it.
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