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i7 3770k bad gaming performance.

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July 16, 2013 3:36:43 AM

full system specs:
i7 3770k @3.9ghz
msi gtx 680 2gb
msi z77a gd65 mobo
corsair H70 cooling
850w corsair psu
8gb corsair vengeance ram

So basically since the day I bought this computer I've been getting unpleasant frame rate drops with games that are somewhat cpu intensive like bf3, planetside 2, and WoW. Playing video games with 75fps one second and 40 on the next is very irritating and it makes it difficult for me to play anything. Today bf3 just suddenly dropped from 75fps to 0 and back to 75 so it feels like this problem is getting worse and worse. My gpu temperate never go over 60c on load and my cpu hits 55c on load (this largely has to do with the fact that it's summer time and it's very hot in my house). Thankfully this computer never got any BSODs yet or any signs of instabilities except for the gaming performance. I always update drivers and update windows and check for new updates on a weekly basis. I also monitored the cpu core speed using windows task manager while playing games and there was no throttling as expected. I've benchmarked my system using 3dmark11 just now and here are the results http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6821852
I've been getting this problem for so long and this computer feels like an expensive piece of garbage. What do you guys think is wrong and what can I do to fix this?
July 16, 2013 3:57:02 AM

I've already ran crysis 3 a long time ago and I think it ran at about 40-75 fps at max settings. How do I compare it with others who ran it on i5 though? I know some people just lie and say that they run it at 60fps when they don't. Is there a reliable source that I can use to compare?
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July 16, 2013 3:57:48 AM

that sounds like something else is running/updating at the same time. Try disabling other software, AntiVirus, anti-malware etc and if you use it as a media server, disable that also. If thats not the solution, check in your BIOS that Speedstep and powersave options are DISABLED!
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July 16, 2013 4:06:02 AM

As far as the updating and programs in the background go, I use gamebooster and I make sure nothing is running in the background every time I run a game. When It comes to speedstep and the powersave options, I actually tried looking for those In my bios and I couldn't actually find them. I'm not sure if they're named differently or what, but I honestly hate messing with my BIOs anyway.
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July 16, 2013 4:06:10 AM

Did you update your BIOS
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July 16, 2013 4:16:58 AM

I checked using Live Update 5 and it says BIOs doesn't need to be updated.
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July 16, 2013 4:20:38 AM

Momentary drops in frame rates are common for all rigs. 75+ fps to 40 fps back to 75 then suddenly to 0 then back up to 90, etc., etc, is something I experience every time I play a resource-demanding game. It’s like those crazy, rally car races in Europe and Australia where the drivers have incredibly fast cars but constantly have to shift down and back up, slowing down and speeding up, as track conditions require.

Your benchmarks look great. I think you have a perfectly well-functioning rig. This kind of fluctuation is normal (as long as the frame-rate drops or very short in duration).

Sometimes when playing, my attention seems more focused on the Fraps numbers (or the Precision X numbers or the CPU-Z numbers…). I often find that turning Fraps off so that I can focus on gameplay results in a much more satisfying gaming experience.
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July 16, 2013 4:23:51 AM

Did you try monitoring your GPU with GPU-Z open your sensor window and try playing and when that drop happens check your sensor tab maybe there is someting wrong with your GPU preformance , see if enything has dropt at that time , as voltage GPU load and other stuff. how does your GPU memory usage look?
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July 16, 2013 4:54:12 AM

Well Zippy you're right about sometimes being too obsessed with what Precision X says can ruin gameplay. Ever since I got this computer I've never ran a single game without Precision X along with real temp. Sometimes I'm playing a game and I just find myself Alt-tabbing just to check the temps on Real Temp and the FPS on the Precision X history graph. I know some might consider this too weird and obsessive, but I want make sure that I really did get what I paid for. I'll try playing some games without using PrecisionX or real temp, but before I do that I just want to make sure that I checked all possibilities of system instability or damage. @Kestas0 i'm fairly certain that the GPU is working fine. Memory usage and gpu usage seem a bit static and they fluctuate quite a bit though. GPU and memory clock are constant, however, the gpu clock does drop on occasion but does not cause a drop in frames. The reason why I said i'm fairly certain that the GPU is fine is because I don't have much trouble with GPU intensive games. With GPU intensive games, frame drops do happen but no where near as annoying and dramatic as cpu intensive games.
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July 16, 2013 5:09:57 AM

Did you try turnign your CPU strotling off so your cpu stays at 3.9 ghz all the time and maybe there is a cpu voltage shortage somewhere , may try increasing CPU voltage a bit and turning auto CPu Voltage off at BIOS

Did you try runing Prime95 dunnor if your temps are fine at 100% load?
Ow and try runing Cinebench
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July 16, 2013 5:27:07 AM

I've used OC Genie for a few months and It forces the cpu to stay at 4.2GHz and increase voltages for everything. The gaming performance definitely increased and the temps were great (stayed in the 40s while gaming), but the temps later became a problem because of the summer time so I stopped using it (temps sometimes hit 59c while gaming). I don't use prime95 a lot, but I gave the computer to my buddy one day and he tested it with prime95 for 24 hours and found no problems with it. He also tested the gpu but idk what he used. I don't think using prime95 now and leaving it on for a long time is a good idea though since the temps won't look so pretty and it might make things even worse. Let me just tell you that if I used prime95 for 24 hours now, the temps would probably hit the high 70s.
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July 16, 2013 5:31:51 AM

I had my old rig and it did run properly when it wasnt OCéd kept freezing for a sec or two evry minute or 2 and when i oced it 400 mhz higher it ran fine , temps a fine at 70 for intel, try cleaning your cpu fan radiator for better cooling it may be dirty. but did you get same drops to 0 FPS with OC?
You wont hit 70c when gaming.
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July 16, 2013 5:45:31 AM

That drop to 0 happened for the first time ever today while playing BF3. My rig is not OCed right now. I took out my radiator the other day and I was able to clean it from the outside but I couldn't do anything about the dirt in between the fins. I tried blowing the dirt out but the dirt is still kinda stuck there. The radiator is not that dirty though, just some dirt on the corners, don't think it would make that big of a difference.
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July 16, 2013 6:45:15 AM

You can probably OC it a fe 100-200 MHZ and see what happen but 59c while gaming is ok as long as you stay below 75c is fine, and fps drops in game is normal like you sed before , as long as it doesnt drop to 0 to often.

and if OC helps , dunno are you running Push pull setup on H70 ? if not you may add an extra fan for better cooling,
but for the rest you kud try and lend a motherboard from someone where you kud test if its motherboards foult, and see waht happens.
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July 16, 2013 3:06:33 PM

What resolution do you play at? I'm at 1080p, and I find BF3 to push 1.5GB of VRAM a max settings with max AA. If you run at a higher resolution, you could be victim of VRAM bottlenecking. May I ask why you bought a 2GB card over a 4GB one?
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July 17, 2013 3:42:27 AM

Solar Trans said:
What resolution do you play at? I'm at 1080p, and I find BF3 to push 1.5GB of VRAM a max settings with max AA. If you run at a higher resolution, you could be victim of VRAM bottlenecking. May I ask why you bought a 2GB card over a 4GB one?


I don't think Vram is the problem actually, but i'll look into it. BTW avilash98 how did you get a 7.9 for processor score with the 3770k at 3.5ghz? did you overclock? mine at 3.5 is 7.7 or something like that and when i overclock it to 4.2 its 7.8. Do you mind running the assessment again to make sure? I looked this up online and people are saying that its almost impossible to hit 7.9 for the processor score without a hex core.
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July 17, 2013 4:15:50 AM

I have 8350 at 4.3 ghz and get 7.8 on procesor score, did you try up your procesor voltage slightly and leaving your clocks as they are? and se what happens.
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July 17, 2013 6:09:56 AM

Well actually I ran the assessment again and I got a score of 7.8 at 3.9ghz so if i run it again at 4.2ghz it'll probably give me a 7.9. I will NOT be messing with voltages because I'm honestly not very well informed about this stuff at all. As far as Vram goes, I ran Hitman absolution at 1440x900 resolution and the Vram got up to about 1786MB after 30 minutes of playing. I run hitman absolution all maxed including 8xmsaa, but I don't think this game is suppose to be consuming that much Vram, right? This is my card if you guys are wondering http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
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July 17, 2013 6:46:42 AM

try playing some more the game that give you problem but lover msaa a bit and see what happens you may be at max with 1786 mb tho its never 2 GB ram when they say 2 GB ram its like hard drives you have 120gb drive and it show only 111 GB
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July 17, 2013 6:55:25 AM

BF3 runs using 1.3GB of Vram at max settings with the same resolution. Tomb Raider and hitman absolution are the only two games I have that push Vram so high. I've seen Tomb Raider take 1.9GB of Vram with max settings and msaa all the way up. All the other games I have take about 1GB or less. I don't have problems with hitman absolution and tomb raider though. I only used them because they're the two most gpu intensive games that I currently own. Both games stay at a steady 50-60fps or higher. It's games like BF3, Planetside 2, and WoW (only on world bosses and 25man raids) that give me problems but they don't take that much Vram at all. Maybe these 3 games aren't using enough ram?? idk...
Lowering MSAA does help a TON though with FPS for most games.
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July 17, 2013 1:07:28 PM

Not entering discution what procesor is better what not i5 i7 and fx 8350 preform the same one better there enother here.

I think that the i7 is doing its job as it shud for sherifsaid123 lag Spikes do happen sometimes. Live with it try lovering setting if its realy bad. And WOW is an MMORPG so there maybe some connection probs involved aswell
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July 18, 2013 5:44:31 AM

Kestas0 said:
Not entering discution what procesor is better what not i5 i7 and fx 8350 preform the same one better there enother here.

I think that the i7 is doing its job as it shud for sherifsaid123 lag Spikes do happen sometimes. Live with it try lovering setting if its realy bad. And WOW is an MMORPG so there maybe some connection probs involved aswell


Yep, I agree. Like I said early in this thread, "I think you have a perfectly well-functioning rig. This kind of fluctuation is normal (as long as the frame-rate drops or very short in duration)."
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