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xXSnAkEXx

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am planning on buying a new pc, i want to get the new Radeon hd 9970 in like 2 months and i really want the new fx-9000 for future proof i have a good feeling about them the thing is, it would most likely come in 2014 also not sure when in 2014 but if lucky maybe on q4 2013, so it could take like 2-6 months after the radeon 9000 comes out which is 2 extra months and i can't wait that long just max 2 months for the gpu to come out, and my current pc would run these new gen games on low settings i think it's 9600 gt and quad 1 9400 @ 2.66 ghz, g41m-es2l mother board and 2 gb ram, is there any thing i could do, i could buy the fx 8350 but it just wont cut it in the future especially when i get another 9970,
also some idiotic question would my current cpu handle this kinda rig for 3 months ? kinda no way tho xD, or maybe i should buy a 100$ cpu for 3 months and change am really confused give me an aswer please
the thing is i really want an 8 cores for future proof, intel gives 4 compared to my budget, btw prices would drop from the preordered fx-9000 any way please post if there is any thing i could do
 
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no offence but I have no better way way of phrasing this than... your an idiot. They dont use CPU/ radeon GPU... they use an APU, which is decidedly less powerful than current mid range pc parts if you choose a dedicated CPU and GPU. Whatever they port, the pc hardware is already in advance of it.


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Really snake, it comes down to what your doing with the pc and what your budget is, I cannot for the life of me forsee needing a $900 fx 9590 CPU for playing games. Thats just unreal.
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just seen that ivy bridge-E is coming q3 2013 which might be good hmm 6 cores might just do it but i dont want their i7-4930k to be like 1-4% close to the i7-3930k like they did with the i7-4770k compared to i7-3770k, it's really complicated :\
 
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your confusing cores with power.... the i7 3770k has four cores, yes with hyperthreading, each handles multiple threads.

It gives the same performance as the fx 8350, which has 4 physical cores, with two logical cores in each core, offering 8 logical cores, they trade blows in application performance but for the most part the i7 leaves it behind for gaming.

Dont purely base a decision on core numbers. what exactly is your budget? because the fx 9000's is ridiculously priced, I think the model one above it starts at almost $900... just for your CPU.

Also you wont find a Radeon 9970, If i remember the article correctly AMD are dropping that numbering system from their GPU's
 
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well actually amd has 8 physical cores based on the research i've done befor unless you can prove me wrong ofcaurse

 
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it has 8 physical cores yes. but those physical cores are paired up in a module where they share a decoder, floating point processor and cache. the amd fx 8 core processors aren't true 8 core processors because they share resources. Each module (2 core pairing) is worth about 1.75 true cores (with no resource sharing).
 
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A full core by current standard usually contains its own completely seperate resource pool.

AMD's 8 cores operate in pairs of shared resources, so there are only 4 pools....

Technicalities. The long and short is, Intel cores outperform AMD most of the time, as they should for their inflated prices.

Although there is sound logic behind the idea of an 8 core AMD due to current console switches. By the time the top end titles require those full 8, the 8350 will be woefully outdated. So not as future proof as you may hope.
 
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There is more sound logic behind the 4 module 8 core idea than just future gaming. But yes for future gaming the FX 8350 will age better than had it been a true quad core. yes it will be outdated by then but will still perform decently.

I like AMD's forward thinking in the bulldozer and piledriver design to be honest. And right now, you can't say that it sucks for work like rendering and compiling and other multi threaded tasks. In fact it performs far better in those instances than the closes priced intels (i5s) and performs almost as well as an i7 for 100.00 less (when all 8 cores are utilized).

AMD may not be the best performing chip in every category but you do get a highly versatile chip, the most versatile in its price range in fact.
 
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As I said in my original post about the application performance :p It technically has more rendering muscle than the i7 but thats not much of a matter for gaming. Looking at the GPU's they're hoping to get, I'd bet on it being intended for gaming :p Where for the most part even the i5-3570k often performs better than it (with the odd notable exception).

It's really a case of matching budget to CPU to usage priorities and even planned expansion. (If the OP would be so kind as to reveal :p)
 
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very true :)

Just felt like contributing to an off topic conversation.

But given the 8350 is in the ring for contenders, that means the i5 3570k would be too. It is hard to say definitively which processor would age better with future games however. The i5 has great per core performance but the 8350 has serious multi threading muscle. The steamroller cores, if they make it to the fx processors, would add even more per core performance and that would scale very well with multi threading. i have doubts on whether or not steamroller will hit the fx line since the server road maps show NO opterons with steamroller and the fx line is derived from the opterons, but i'm still holding on to hope. Either way that is a very different matter altogether and each would require an upgrade anyway (from i5 to i7 if multi threading makes the i5 perform worse).

Lots of things to consider.

In the end the safer bet would be with the i5, especially since AMD's road maps are making many people wonder...
 
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while i agree with your uncertainty analysis, i cannot agree on your i5 vs 8 core CPU choice. with FX 8xxx, you get extra integer. simply put it will last longer.

I would say by a 100 $ cpu now and than get a steamroler. but i would not pick a 9xxx, its 220W for crying out loud and will probably need its own air conditioning unit >P if you cannot wait, than go for 8350 with a closed loop liquid cooler, and you can go up in OC and end up with close to 9xxx clocks. I donot think 9xxx will OC very well anyway.
 
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thanks all for the ideas, really appreciated, just one last thing to make my choice would advice me on getting the intel 3930k for 6 threads and 12 threads which would be really close to the fx-9000 ? even better in a month or two the 4930k will come it says it will have 10-15% performance and supports pci-e 3.0 and has 22 nm if it's arround the same price as the 3930k do u think i should get it and rap things up ?

 
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Well, that would be better performing than steamroller for sure, but at a significantly higher cost. honestly i think a current i7 quad core would do well enough, but if you are fine with spending 500.00 on a cpu, it would probably be more performance than you'd ever need.
 
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Don't listen to this guy with an AMD FX-8350 or wait for the FX-9650, if you're into games you want something that's better optimized for the next gen console ports, that ALL use AMD 8 core CPU's and Radeon. Forget Intel lol.
 
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A 3930k is a Sandy brige-E CPU.. So you will get the same jump from SB to IB as you got with the mainstream cpu's :)
 
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ethereal essence

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You are saying not to listen to me because I pointed out the fact that AMD doesn't use a true quad/hex/octo core architecture? Everything in the post you quoted is true. Try doing some research before trying to claim I don't know what I'm talking about.
 
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no offence but I have no better way way of phrasing this than... your an idiot. They dont use CPU/ radeon GPU... they use an APU, which is decidedly less powerful than current mid range pc parts if you choose a dedicated CPU and GPU. Whatever they port, the pc hardware is already in advance of it.


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Really snake, it comes down to what your doing with the pc and what your budget is, I cannot for the life of me forsee needing a $900 fx 9590 CPU for playing games. Thats just unreal.
 
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