Newbie, PC build, perfection

Nine

Honorable
Jul 16, 2013
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10,510
Warning a lot of words incoming! Reader discretion advised.

Contents
1) Introduction
2) What help i am hoping
3) Current build
4) Random rambling
5) Few questions
6) Ending


1) About me:
Hello, i am casual-competitive gamer, a cramped one, could really enjoy quality gaming to the fullest, every game is mostly on low, for less error in gaming.
Last two pcs were build by my dad and cheap ones, because he payed those times :), but now its my turn and then i realized i know nothing and i want a lot, i am a little ocd or something and want it to be best and optimal, because like i say "I am not that rich to buy shit, either best or nothing". I did some research before, until the point i dont know what to look for, so here i am asking You nice guys for detailed info and some explanation on parts that i still dont know.

2) What i want:
My thought process is like this, i can spend 3k dollars, a little more if it benefits, i want it to last 5 years, dont know if thats a lot to ask, but bear with me there is more... i dont want to fall behind with in future games and if it is possible i want it to be build so that there would be easy and cheap future improvement if i need (from what i know thats stupid wish, if i build it optimal?), and thats what i can think on the spot.

Like i said i a kinda OCD perfectionis and all thos fancy words, so i want a lot, while i feel silly, because i am newbie and i dont know jack about it.

3) Here is the build so far, will try add short comments on what i think about it.

Case:
Corsair 500R
(I really dont know what case is good, i want it to have space for future if i need and i want it to be silent if possible, i read there are some technologies that have layers of some sort of cotton that reduce sound.)


Processor:
Intel Core i7 3930K
(Just the best i could fit in the price so that others parts wount fall behind, BUT, i dont know and not sure since i compared like 4 of them, i want it to be good, but will i feel something different if i get cheaper, or is it to get better for future, maybe improve later on or is it just not optimal.)


Cooling fans:
Xigmatek Prime CPU Fan
(Since i dont know anything yet i want it to be fans, i looked at some pros and cons and realized i dont know how to deal with liquid cooling and there is risk that it will tear and spill out.)


Motherboard:
Asus P9X79 Pro
(One thing i picked at random, something mid price, since i dont know what to look at motherboards, all are the same for me or dont make big difference from my small perspective.)

RAM:
64GB (8x8GB) 1600mhz Kingston HyperX Blu
( Now i did some research and 1600 is best, because on others i wount feel any difference, is that true? Now on space i picked 64GB and thats because again want best, but is it optimal, maybe 32 better? Like i dont know whats the differenc, cant feel the scale, so it was kinda blind pick.

GPU:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX Titan - 6GB
( I like beautiful things and scenery, so i feel like this is a must to be good, and these things are expencive, but again i want to ask is this titan optimal? IS it better to get maybe a little cheaper but dual or even tripple? how does it work? Do i just add up the numbers of each graphic card. Overall is it better to have one good or two less better?

Power Supply:
Corsair 750W CX750
( I didnt do the counting on how many W i need, but i think its enough?)

HD:
2x 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM
(dont need a lot of space, maybe i will stream at some point after studies loosen up, but thats not really a problem, but question:
Does the speed like gb/s and rmps affect performance i picked lowest ones, to kinda fit in the price, what does faster change?


AAAnd thats all there are some small point that dont matter like temp panel and other cool gear.

4) BUT PLEASE give recommendations on other things with detailed argument
AND dont be shy on expanding your talk, i want to know more and why, how it works, whats the difference, hoping for a detailed answers as possible.

5) If possible my few questions, i could google it, but asking others, that tried or know, to answer exactly what i want.

a) Overclocking, do i need it? Like i know how it works, but whats the point? is it worth the cost? Risks? I heard that you need liquid cooling, but then some say now that i dont, fans are enough, maybe some recommendations on other good fans? If i make it to overclock at 10-20perc with good fans is that enough?

b) First i started to build from sites like origin and ibuy something or something and i am not very trusty on this thing, but i didnt know about pc insides so i thought i would buy from them, but then i decided compare prices of overall pc and building your own is way cheaper, like WAY. So do i need some special skills to put up my pc for best performance? Or do i ask a specialist that i know that he knows?

c) Can i ask in this topic about my current pc problem, or at least i think it is?

Thats all i remember, i was pretty sure there were more questions, but they just vanished.

6) Really hoping for more than one or two answers to compare, plz make it extended and understandable, put comparisons etc. so i can build up experiance so....

Thank you for your time, like really!!
 

Tradesman1

Legenda in Aeternum
Looks good over all, think 64 is way overkill unless planning a big RAMDisk, you haven't really shown anything to indicate a need. With a high powered rig like this though I'd go 16-32GB and prob at 2133 to get that additional performance.

Will also want to add a SSD (128 or 256GB) for OS and apps, then maintain data on the platter driver

No need to OC right off the bat, but with the CPU you have can start whenever and in effect will prolong how happy you are with it...i.e. after a few months want a boost, OC it a little.
 

Nine

Honorable
Jul 16, 2013
12
0
10,510
Maybe i didnt make very clear, but yeh right now what i am going is a bit overkill, one of my forgotten questions adds to this, i want it to build long term ,last it for years and go great with future games, i sometimes do some video creation and rendering at points, or even stream in future, so the question goes: whats better and if possible, long term PCs or short? Like how fast technology is going, how long will i last it? Is it better to build cheaper for few years or monster, more expensive that stays long?
 
There really isn't a need to spend that much money. If you are gaming at 1080p, then Titan is just plain overkill for the amount of money spent.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($236.97 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.13 @ TigerDirect)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($214.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.61 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($405.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($93.50 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1670.05
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-16 20:39 EDT-0400)

You don't need a 500 dollar Cpu. In fact, you don't really need anything more than this i5 for a 300 dollar savings. Motherboard is solid, with built in wi-fi so that will probably save some money. Anything more than 8gb's of Ram for gaming is a waste. 1Tb HDD, with 256gb SSD for your OS and games. The 770 will deliver plenty of performance at 1080p, and if you want down the road you can add another card for SLI. The Psu is quality, with enough wattage to handle an SLI setup. The case is one of the most recommended(by me at least) because of it's cable management and general understated looks. Added a blu-ray drive in case you don't already have one, well within budget.

You could certainly spend more money, but you'll start to run into diminishing returns. More money spent doesn't necessarily mean significantly better performance, other than adding a second 770 video card.
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C14 CPU Cooler ($73.00 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($214.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($155.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($649.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($649.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($124.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 1000W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($225.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $2762.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-16 20:41 EDT-0400)

Gives you a couple hundred for mouse and keyboard and extra case fans etc.

For gaming, go Haswell, no need for the big processors like I7 extreme, they are for other useages.

About the best air cooler there is.

A good motherboard that won't break the bank.

Memory, 16GB is more than enough for gaming. As of now the most demanding games are just kissing 8GB. 16GB is plenty. You can set up a RAM drive to speed things up more and save wear and tear on your SSD.

The 840 Samsung Pro is the best SSD out there, top speed and reliability without costing a couple grand. 256GB is plenty for your OS, Office, and a slew of games.

Western Digital Black is a great HDD for storing movies etc.

Two GTX 780's are much faster than a Titan. Don't spend money on a Titan unless you want triple monitors and everything maxed out. For a single monitor, even a 30 inch one, two GTX 780's are great.

Your case is fine and the power supply is top quality.
 
Solution

Tradesman1

Legenda in Aeternum
There is no futureproofing, though going high end today, you will stay happier with it longer, DDR4 is just around the corner so will be looking at all new lines of mobos before long Hybrids (like the end model socket 775s that could run DDR2 or DDR3) running DDR3 or DDR4