Supports DDR3-3000(OC) Memory?

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Z87/Haswell supports 1600 at stock at 1.5v, anything over that would be considered an overclock.

You would be paying a lot of extra money for small gains in performance. I think the bargain sweet spot right now is 1866 memory, and 2133 isn't much more. 2400 and up and you are talking seriously overclocked memory that you may have to fiddle with to operate correctly.

Since the memory controller is now on CPU, the more and faster ram you run the more stress and heat generated inside the chip.
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Z87/Haswell supports 1600 at stock at 1.5v, anything over that would be considered an overclock.

You would be paying a lot of extra money for small gains in performance. I think the bargain sweet spot right now is 1866 memory, and 2133 isn't much more. 2400 and up and you are talking seriously overclocked memory that you may have to fiddle with to operate correctly.

Since the memory controller is now on CPU, the more and faster ram you run the more stress and heat generated inside the chip.
 
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Thank you very much!



 
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I'll just add, if you really use your system you'll notice a marked difference in the higher DRAM freqs, any time I drop any of my rigs to 1600 I can see a big difference, I normally build for clients w/ 1866 as a minimum...and don't believe all the foolishness about having to do all this fiddling with the DRAM and higher freqs, as long as your CPU can support it (the mobo plays in but very little, most any can deal with up to 2800-3000 in the Z87 chipset, but the CPU is the prime factor, locked non-K models are basically limited to what they can run, with say a 4670K you can generally run up to at least 2666 by simply enabling XMP and selecting profile 1, same with the 4770K up to 2800-3000. The OC that is generally on a mobos specs next to the freqs it supports means a CPU OC may be required to run the sticks at their native freq - You aren't OCing the DRAM - that's what is designed to run at...OCing DRAM is if you take say a set of 1866 and run it at 2133. Just thought you might want facts not conjecture
 
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Speed is great if you are willing to pay for it, but the cheapest 2x4GB DDR3 2800 kit costs $300
2x4GB 2666 ~$150
2x4GB 2600 ~$140
2X4GB 2400 ~$80
2X4GB 2133 ~$75
2x4GB 1866 ~$65
2x4GB 1600 ~$50

Looks like current prices put 2133 and 2400 pretty high in the runnings in terms of value.

 
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All depends on what you do and what the budget is. Even in gaming - first thing you hear about is GPU (which will remain #1), next is CPU and how more cores are better, last is DRAM, but games are becoming more memory centric and using more/faster memory quicker than games are being developed to use more cores...
 
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Thanks for the info! very helpful



 
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There is a secondary problem with memory that has a heat sink, the CPU air cooler gets in the way of any memory that has a heat sink on it. So I am limited to only using memory at 1600 that is standard stock memory, thanks for everyone that responded.
 
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Not sure what cooler, but many liek the 212 EVO have adjustable fans, and if you want fast sticks, the fastest available on the market, the GSKill Tridents (up to 3000) have removable top fins that make them a lower profile than most advertised low profile sticks....I'm running 32GB of the 2400 and there's no real heat difference w/ or w/o the fins, they remain cool
 
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Thanks for the info about the GSKill ram and CPU cooler, I'm not sure if it was a bad mb design by having the memory so close to the CPU or the cool master V6 G4 is just too big but whatever that case is there was no chance in hell I was going with water cooling, the concept of having water so close to my expensive haswell 4770k freaks me out.



 
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Most excellent, thank you



 
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Will do, but as of now the entire system is put together and working perfectly so when I feel like upgrading the ram I will check out the trident. Thanks again for this valuable info!



 
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