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July 17, 2013 2:28:50 PM

Hi all!
Could someone explain to me why the GTX 770 in 2-way SLI scores higher in some benchmarks than the GTX 780 in 2-way SLI. Getting two GTX 780's is way more expensive than getting two GTX 770's, though the performance is almost the same on all benchmarks, if not less on some of them!


GTX 770:
http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/4625/34/geforce-gtx-700...

GTX 780:
http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/4625/35/geforce-gtx-700...
July 17, 2013 2:35:02 PM

avilash98 said:
lol...glad, that i bought the 770...will sli it later


Haha yeah, I'm glad I didn't go ahead and buy the GTX 780!
The GTX 770 is so much cheaper though there's hardly no difference in fps it seems (single monitor).
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July 17, 2013 2:54:20 PM

I didn't see a Test Setup page on that review. If there is an unexpected result, like 770's in SLI are faster than 780's in SLI, it's because they are being bottlenecked by the rest of the system. To really know which is "better", you need a really, really fast system and high resolutions to eliminate the bottlenecks. If you have a regular system playing on normal resolutions, then yes, the GTX 780's in SLI are a waste of money.
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July 17, 2013 2:56:35 PM

17seconds said:
I didn't see a Test Setup page on that review. If there is an unexpected result, like 770's in SLI are faster than 780's in SLI, it's because they are being bottlenecked by the rest of the system. To really know which is "better", you need a really, really fast system and high resolutions to eliminate the bottlenecks. If you have a regular system playing on normal resolutions, then yes, the GTX 780's in SLI are a waste of money.


Would you reccomend the GTX 770 or the GTX 780 (both in 2-way SLI) for my build?
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July 17, 2013 3:04:36 PM

avilash98 said:
Ossahib said:
17seconds said:
I didn't see a Test Setup page on that review. If there is an unexpected result, like 770's in SLI are faster than 780's in SLI, it's because they are being bottlenecked by the rest of the system. To really know which is "better", you need a really, really fast system and high resolutions to eliminate the bottlenecks. If you have a regular system playing on normal resolutions, then yes, the GTX 780's in SLI are a waste of money.


Would you reccomend the GTX 770 or the GTX 780 (both in 2-way SLI) for my build?
Thank you!

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Do you have any idea how much will a 780 SLI cost??...
its really a waste of money...770 sli will be the best deal out here


I sure do have an exact idea, and for that reason I would muuuch rather go for the GTX 770 in 2-way SLI. Though there must be a reason why they are so much more expensive. I just want to know exactly what the best components are for me before I spend thousands of dollars on my build.
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July 17, 2013 3:06:36 PM

Whether or not the GTX 780 path has value, you have to tell us your resolution. At lower resolutions, you'll be bottlenecked and it won't provide a benefit. Refresh rate, 3D Vision, surround and possibly other factors also matter.

Those tests were done at 1080p. At 1080p even 770's are often bottlenecked.
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July 17, 2013 3:10:02 PM

Ossahib said:
17seconds said:
I didn't see a Test Setup page on that review. If there is an unexpected result, like 770's in SLI are faster than 780's in SLI, it's because they are being bottlenecked by the rest of the system. To really know which is "better", you need a really, really fast system and high resolutions to eliminate the bottlenecks. If you have a regular system playing on normal resolutions, then yes, the GTX 780's in SLI are a waste of money.


Would you reccomend the GTX 770 or the GTX 780 (both in 2-way SLI) for my build?
Thank you!

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What resolution is your monitor? If you are on a single monitor, I recommend either a single GTX 780 or GTX 770's in SLI.

I like the GTX 780 over the GTX 770 for several reasons:
- More VRAM (3GB vs. 2 GB on the GTX 770)
- Wider memory bus (384-bit vs. 256-bit)
- Better overclock scaling than the 770
- Basically, the factory overclocked models are like a Titan for $350 less (if you decide to view it from that angle, it's a good deal).

By the way, it's not necessary, but I would bump up to the 850 watt Corsair HX power supply. At 750 watts, you have enough power, but I like to have a bit of an overhead buffer available to rule out any questions for as much overclocking as possible.
July 17, 2013 3:11:01 PM

bystander said:
Whether or not the GTX 780 path has value, you have to tell us your resolution. At lower resolutions, you'll be bottlenecked and it won't provide a benefit. Refresh rate, 3D Vision, surround and possibly other factors also matter.

Those tests were done at 1080p. At 1080p even 770's are often bottlenecked.


In general I'll have a dual monitor setup. One 24" 1920x1080 60Hz monitor and one 24" 1920x1080 120Hz monitor. The 120Hz monitor will obviously be used for gaming.
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July 17, 2013 3:18:20 PM

Ossahib said:
bystander said:
Whether or not the GTX 780 path has value, you have to tell us your resolution. At lower resolutions, you'll be bottlenecked and it won't provide a benefit. Refresh rate, 3D Vision, surround and possibly other factors also matter.

Those tests were done at 1080p. At 1080p even 770's are often bottlenecked.


In general I'll have a dual monitor setup. One 24" 1920x1080 60Hz monitor and one 24" 1920x1080 120Hz monitor. The 120Hz monitor will obviously be used for gaming.


You can ignore the 2nd monitor. It has no real affect on performance, only the monitor(s) you game on do. Now this means that more than 60 FPS will be of value to you, which means more performance is worthwhile, but many games are CPU bound, so you won't get to play at 120 FPS on many newer games.

I'd personally think the 770 SLI option makes the most sense. Most the time you get very similar performance due to the resolution, and the cost is much better.
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July 17, 2013 3:20:49 PM

Ossahib said:
bystander said:
Whether or not the GTX 780 path has value, you have to tell us your resolution. At lower resolutions, you'll be bottlenecked and it won't provide a benefit. Refresh rate, 3D Vision, surround and possibly other factors also matter.

Those tests were done at 1080p. At 1080p even 770's are often bottlenecked.


In general I'll have a dual monitor setup. One 24" 1920x1080 60Hz monitor and one 24" 1920x1080 120Hz monitor. The 120Hz monitor will obviously be used for gaming.

In that case, I recommend a single GTX 780, which will leave you with an upgrade path for the future when you decide to add a second in SLI. With the GTX 770's in SLI, you would only have 3-way SLI for your upgrade path. In terms of the future, I would prefer the 3GB of VRAM over 2GB as well.

With a 120 Hz monitor, then you can benefit from a more powerful setup, even the GTX 780's in SLI would be an option, albeit a very expensive one. The GTX 770's are a very attractive option for higher performance necessary to reach that 120 FPS to match your refresh rate.

I think since you're worried about the future and don't want to regret your decision, spend less initially and get the #1 GK110 GPU and leave yourself some peace of mind that you can upgrade in future if necessary.
July 17, 2013 3:25:48 PM

17seconds said:
Ossahib said:
bystander said:
Whether or not the GTX 780 path has value, you have to tell us your resolution. At lower resolutions, you'll be bottlenecked and it won't provide a benefit. Refresh rate, 3D Vision, surround and possibly other factors also matter.

Those tests were done at 1080p. At 1080p even 770's are often bottlenecked.


In general I'll have a dual monitor setup. One 24" 1920x1080 60Hz monitor and one 24" 1920x1080 120Hz monitor. The 120Hz monitor will obviously be used for gaming.

In that case, I recommend a single GTX 780, which will leave you with an upgrade path for the future when you decide to add a second in SLI. With the GTX 770's in SLI, you would only have 3-way SLI for your upgrade path. In terms of the future, I would prefer the 3GB of VRAM over 2GB as well.

With a 120 Hz monitor, then you can benefit from a more powerful setup, even the GTX 780's in SLI would be an option, albeit a very expensive one. The GTX 770's are a very attractive option for higher performance necessary to reach that 120 FPS to match your refresh rate.

I think since you're worried about the future and don't want to regret your decision, spend less initially and get the #1 GK110 GPU and leave yourself some peace of mind that you can upgrade in future if necessary.


Thank you for the informative reply and the advise!
Would it be realistic that my build would last a couple of years if I were to get a titan now and get a second one in 2 years or so?

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17seconds said:
In that case, I recommend a single GTX 780, which will leave you with an upgrade path for the future when you decide to add a second in SLI. With the GTX 770's in SLI, you would only have 3-way SLI for your upgrade path. In terms of the future, I would prefer the 3GB of VRAM over 2GB as well.

With a 120 Hz monitor, then you can benefit from a more powerful setup, even the GTX 780's in SLI would be an option, albeit a very expensive one. The GTX 770's are a very attractive option for higher performance necessary to reach that 120 FPS to match your refresh rate.

I think since you're worried about the future and don't want to regret your decision, spend less initially and get the #1 GK110 GPU and leave yourself some peace of mind that you can upgrade in future if necessary.


I'm only going to toss this question because I've seen the result so often in the past.

In a year from now, when the new generation of GPU's come out and the OP is faced with the question, "Do I get a 2nd 780 for SLI, or buy an 880?" are you going to tell him that the 780 is old tech and he should sell it to get an 880 or are you going to suggest he get a 2nd 780?

I see people on this form constantly recommend the single fast card because they can upgrade in the future, but in the future when they are faced with the purchase, 90% of the time people tell them to start over.
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July 17, 2013 3:32:36 PM

Ossahib said:
17seconds said:
Ossahib said:
bystander said:
Whether or not the GTX 780 path has value, you have to tell us your resolution. At lower resolutions, you'll be bottlenecked and it won't provide a benefit. Refresh rate, 3D Vision, surround and possibly other factors also matter.

Those tests were done at 1080p. At 1080p even 770's are often bottlenecked.


In general I'll have a dual monitor setup. One 24" 1920x1080 60Hz monitor and one 24" 1920x1080 120Hz monitor. The 120Hz monitor will obviously be used for gaming.

In that case, I recommend a single GTX 780, which will leave you with an upgrade path for the future when you decide to add a second in SLI. With the GTX 770's in SLI, you would only have 3-way SLI for your upgrade path. In terms of the future, I would prefer the 3GB of VRAM over 2GB as well.

With a 120 Hz monitor, then you can benefit from a more powerful setup, even the GTX 780's in SLI would be an option, albeit a very expensive one. The GTX 770's are a very attractive option for higher performance necessary to reach that 120 FPS to match your refresh rate.

I think since you're worried about the future and don't want to regret your decision, spend less initially and get the #1 GK110 GPU and leave yourself some peace of mind that you can upgrade in future if necessary.


Thank you for the informative reply and the advise!
Would it be realistic that my build would last a couple of years if I were to get a titan now and get a second one in 2 years or so?

I would have my doubts that Titans would be easy to find in two years. They seem to be sort of a limited release product. It's definitely more likely you will be able to find a second GTX 780, and the performance difference is very small between the two.
July 17, 2013 3:35:48 PM

bystander said:
17seconds said:
In that case, I recommend a single GTX 780, which will leave you with an upgrade path for the future when you decide to add a second in SLI. With the GTX 770's in SLI, you would only have 3-way SLI for your upgrade path. In terms of the future, I would prefer the 3GB of VRAM over 2GB as well.

With a 120 Hz monitor, then you can benefit from a more powerful setup, even the GTX 780's in SLI would be an option, albeit a very expensive one. The GTX 770's are a very attractive option for higher performance necessary to reach that 120 FPS to match your refresh rate.

I think since you're worried about the future and don't want to regret your decision, spend less initially and get the #1 GK110 GPU and leave yourself some peace of mind that you can upgrade in future if necessary.


I'm only going to toss this question because I've seen the result so often in the past.

In a year from now, when the new generation of GPU's come out and the OP is faced with the question, "Do I get a 2nd 780 for SLI, or buy an 880?" are you going to tell him that the 780 is old tech and he should sell it to get an 880 or are you going to suggest he get a 2nd 780?

I see people on this form constantly recommend the single fast card because they can upgrade in the future, but in the future when they are faced with the purchase, 90% of the time people tell them to start over.


17seconds said:
Ossahib said:
17seconds said:
Ossahib said:
bystander said:
Whether or not the GTX 780 path has value, you have to tell us your resolution. At lower resolutions, you'll be bottlenecked and it won't provide a benefit. Refresh rate, 3D Vision, surround and possibly other factors also matter.

Those tests were done at 1080p. At 1080p even 770's are often bottlenecked.


In general I'll have a dual monitor setup. One 24" 1920x1080 60Hz monitor and one 24" 1920x1080 120Hz monitor. The 120Hz monitor will obviously be used for gaming.

In that case, I recommend a single GTX 780, which will leave you with an upgrade path for the future when you decide to add a second in SLI. With the GTX 770's in SLI, you would only have 3-way SLI for your upgrade path. In terms of the future, I would prefer the 3GB of VRAM over 2GB as well.

With a 120 Hz monitor, then you can benefit from a more powerful setup, even the GTX 780's in SLI would be an option, albeit a very expensive one. The GTX 770's are a very attractive option for higher performance necessary to reach that 120 FPS to match your refresh rate.

I think since you're worried about the future and don't want to regret your decision, spend less initially and get the #1 GK110 GPU and leave yourself some peace of mind that you can upgrade in future if necessary.


Thank you for the informative reply and the advise!
Would it be realistic that my build would last a couple of years if I were to get a titan now and get a second one in 2 years or so?

I would have my doubts that Titans would be easy to find in two years. They seem to be sort of a limited release product. It's definitely more likely you will be able to find a second GTX 780, and the performance difference is very small between the two.

It's always tough to make these types of purchase decisions because of one game, Crysis 3, which is so extreme it throws everything off. For just about every other situation, I like a single GTX 780 over the GTX 770's in SLI, because it is generally enough, not faster, but enough. With Crysis 3 though, you really need even more than a single GTX 780. I just want you to be able to consider that there is a significant difference in performance difference that may make or break your experience with a demanding game like Crysis 3.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_sl...


Could Crysis 3 be used as an 'example' next. gen game considering it's graphics etc. are 2 to 3 years ahead of other games (correct me if I'm wrong). So if I can play Crysis 3 on ultra with 60fps+ I'll also most likely be able to play for example Titanfall on ultra on 60fps+? Or am I missing something here?
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July 17, 2013 3:41:49 PM

bystander said:
17seconds said:
In that case, I recommend a single GTX 780, which will leave you with an upgrade path for the future when you decide to add a second in SLI. With the GTX 770's in SLI, you would only have 3-way SLI for your upgrade path. In terms of the future, I would prefer the 3GB of VRAM over 2GB as well.

With a 120 Hz monitor, then you can benefit from a more powerful setup, even the GTX 780's in SLI would be an option, albeit a very expensive one. The GTX 770's are a very attractive option for higher performance necessary to reach that 120 FPS to match your refresh rate.

I think since you're worried about the future and don't want to regret your decision, spend less initially and get the #1 GK110 GPU and leave yourself some peace of mind that you can upgrade in future if necessary.


I'm only going to toss this question because I've seen the result so often in the past.

In a year from now, when the new generation of GPU's come out and the OP is faced with the question, "Do I get a 2nd 780 for SLI, or buy an 880?" are you going to tell him that the 780 is old tech and he should sell it to get an 880 or are you going to suggest he get a 2nd 780?

I see people on this form constantly recommend the single fast card because they can upgrade in the future, but in the future when they are faced with the purchase, 90% of the time people tell them to start over.

I totally agree with you, and I'm not someone who would recommend ignoring adding that second card as an upgrade plan. I'm someone who doesn't fear SLI at all. In fact, I'm a bit torn here, but I'm feeling the single 780, for considerably less cost than 770's in SLI, will play out better in the long term. Bottom line is that GK110 chip, it's a good leap ahead of the GK104.
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July 17, 2013 3:46:03 PM

He actually asked about 770 SLI vs 780 SLI. Due to the huge premium of the 780's, I'd suggest 770's. Now a single 780 vs 770 SLI is a harder one. Normally I'd say a single 780, but for 120hz, I'd lean towards 770's.
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July 17, 2013 3:46:51 PM

Ossahib said:
bystander said:
17seconds said:
In that case, I recommend a single GTX 780, which will leave you with an upgrade path for the future when you decide to add a second in SLI. With the GTX 770's in SLI, you would only have 3-way SLI for your upgrade path. In terms of the future, I would prefer the 3GB of VRAM over 2GB as well.

With a 120 Hz monitor, then you can benefit from a more powerful setup, even the GTX 780's in SLI would be an option, albeit a very expensive one. The GTX 770's are a very attractive option for higher performance necessary to reach that 120 FPS to match your refresh rate.

I think since you're worried about the future and don't want to regret your decision, spend less initially and get the #1 GK110 GPU and leave yourself some peace of mind that you can upgrade in future if necessary.


I'm only going to toss this question because I've seen the result so often in the past.

In a year from now, when the new generation of GPU's come out and the OP is faced with the question, "Do I get a 2nd 780 for SLI, or buy an 880?" are you going to tell him that the 780 is old tech and he should sell it to get an 880 or are you going to suggest he get a 2nd 780?

I see people on this form constantly recommend the single fast card because they can upgrade in the future, but in the future when they are faced with the purchase, 90% of the time people tell them to start over.


17seconds said:
Ossahib said:
17seconds said:
Ossahib said:
bystander said:
Whether or not the GTX 780 path has value, you have to tell us your resolution. At lower resolutions, you'll be bottlenecked and it won't provide a benefit. Refresh rate, 3D Vision, surround and possibly other factors also matter.

Those tests were done at 1080p. At 1080p even 770's are often bottlenecked.


In general I'll have a dual monitor setup. One 24" 1920x1080 60Hz monitor and one 24" 1920x1080 120Hz monitor. The 120Hz monitor will obviously be used for gaming.

In that case, I recommend a single GTX 780, which will leave you with an upgrade path for the future when you decide to add a second in SLI. With the GTX 770's in SLI, you would only have 3-way SLI for your upgrade path. In terms of the future, I would prefer the 3GB of VRAM over 2GB as well.

With a 120 Hz monitor, then you can benefit from a more powerful setup, even the GTX 780's in SLI would be an option, albeit a very expensive one. The GTX 770's are a very attractive option for higher performance necessary to reach that 120 FPS to match your refresh rate.

I think since you're worried about the future and don't want to regret your decision, spend less initially and get the #1 GK110 GPU and leave yourself some peace of mind that you can upgrade in future if necessary.


Thank you for the informative reply and the advise!
Would it be realistic that my build would last a couple of years if I were to get a titan now and get a second one in 2 years or so?

I would have my doubts that Titans would be easy to find in two years. They seem to be sort of a limited release product. It's definitely more likely you will be able to find a second GTX 780, and the performance difference is very small between the two.




Could Crysis 3 be used as an 'example' next. gen game considering it's graphics etc. are 2 to 3 years ahead of other games (correct me if I'm wrong). So if I can play Crysis 3 on ultra with 60fps+ I'll also most likely be able to play for example Titanfall on ultra on 60fps+? Or am I missing something here?


I would say that's a fair assessment.

I retracted that chart because I realized that the higher resolution might be confusing. At your resolution, Crysis 3 would be totally playable at those settings on a single GTX 780.

Your 120 Hz monitor does complicate things in that you really are looking to maximize your FPS up to 120, rather than 60. The GTX 770's in SLI are better suited for that. I still think the 780 with an eye to the future and a superior chip under the hood is the way to go.
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July 30, 2013 3:43:45 PM

Just reading i think everyone has a great point and i will agree future wise if i was faced with either getting a 770 sli now, a single 780 then sli in the future or starting over and getting a single 800 i think i would go for a 780 then sli in the future and 2x 780s in sli would rank on a single 800s series card imo. 2x 770s isnt bad either but i would want the extra 3GB of memory+Memory bandwidth for higher resolutions.
August 8, 2013 11:56:44 AM

17seconds said:
Ossahib said:
bystander said:
Whether or not the GTX 780 path has value, you have to tell us your resolution. At lower resolutions, you'll be bottlenecked and it won't provide a benefit. Refresh rate, 3D Vision, surround and possibly other factors also matter.

Those tests were done at 1080p. At 1080p even 770's are often bottlenecked.


In general I'll have a dual monitor setup. One 24" 1920x1080 60Hz monitor and one 24" 1920x1080 120Hz monitor. The 120Hz monitor will obviously be used for gaming.

In that case, I recommend a single GTX 780, which will leave you with an upgrade path for the future when you decide to add a second in SLI. With the GTX 770's in SLI, you would only have 3-way SLI for your upgrade path. In terms of the future, I would prefer the 3GB of VRAM over 2GB as well.

With a 120 Hz monitor, then you can benefit from a more powerful setup, even the GTX 780's in SLI would be an option, albeit a very expensive one. The GTX 770's are a very attractive option for higher performance necessary to reach that 120 FPS to match your refresh rate.

I think since you're worried about the future and don't want to regret your decision, spend less initially and get the #1 GK110 GPU and leave yourself some peace of mind that you can upgrade in future if necessary.


is it just me or do ppl always say this ( leaves you with an upgrade path for the future when you decide to add a second in SLI ?) and when new cards come out they then turn around a say sail the old card and get to newer one.... i say this because i heard this with my 9800 gtxs, and now my 560....... LMFAO
August 8, 2013 12:02:25 PM

bystander said:
17seconds said:
In that case, I recommend a single GTX 780, which will leave you with an upgrade path for the future when you decide to add a second in SLI. With the GTX 770's in SLI, you would only have 3-way SLI for your upgrade path. In terms of the future, I would prefer the 3GB of VRAM over 2GB as well.

With a 120 Hz monitor, then you can benefit from a more powerful setup, even the GTX 780's in SLI would be an option, albeit a very expensive one. The GTX 770's are a very attractive option for higher performance necessary to reach that 120 FPS to match your refresh rate.

I think since you're worried about the future and don't want to regret your decision, spend less initially and get the #1 GK110 GPU and leave yourself some peace of mind that you can upgrade in future if necessary.


I'm only going to toss this question because I've seen the result so often in the past.

In a year from now, when the new generation of GPU's come out and the OP is faced with the question, "Do I get a 2nd 780 for SLI, or buy an 880?" are you going to tell him that the 780 is old tech and he should sell it to get an 880 or are you going to suggest he get a 2nd 780?

I see people on this form constantly recommend the single fast card because they can upgrade in the future, but in the future when they are faced with the purchase, 90% of the time people tell them to start over.


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August 8, 2013 12:13:34 PM

Because theres some people that will take a 770/780 and will sli instead of getting the 800s maybe. Some will buy new gpus on the 800s some will sli nothings wrong with either choice.
August 8, 2013 12:22:55 PM

determinologyz said:
Because theres some people that will take a 770/780 and will sli instead of getting the 800s maybe. Some will buy new gpus on the 800s some will sli nothings wrong with either choice.


im looking at getting EVGA 770 SC 4g or the 760 4g for my new rig that has a 560 in it now that i was going to sli when i made a new rig. but now the 560 looks so under powered ( LMAO ) i really went all out on my new toy... any thoughts?

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