Trying to choose between 3570k, 3770k, and 4770k.

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I am working on a new build for gaming, recording and editing for YouTube. I am iffy on what CPU I should get as this is my first build. I am told that I should go with a 3770k at least for editing but is the 4770k better to go with for the boost in performance or should I go with a 3570k? I plan to overclock. I currently have the 4770k in the cart just because I'm not sure but here is the build so far http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=28022127
 
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Ya spending $560 for the MoBo / CPU combo which inkludes a $210 MoBo. This gives ya a $250 MoBo w/ a 5 year warranty for $60 less. Asus Z87 Sabertooth w/ 4770k .... Savings $60 and better MoBo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1389944

I just don't see the 780 for $650. Two 770s for $400 each makes a lot more sense.....50-60% performance improvement for just 23% price increase. Bit I spent $150 of ya budget.... minus $60 savings above , ya at +$90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125463

Let's save some money and upgrade the case and CPU quality while we are at it .... The combo you have is $290 .... Corsair 500R w/ HX850 (10.0 jonnyguru rating) is $210 after MIRS ....savings...
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From one of my earlier posts today

I've compared the features of two Low cost MSI MBs (Z77 vs Z87).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...

SATA III Z77 = 4 Sata II ports + 2 SATA III ports Z87 = 6 Sata III ports.
NON issue if only using 1 or two HDDs NOTE Very little difference in using a SATA III HDD on sata II vs Sata III. HOWEVER, this could be Much more important in the near future as (A) SATA III SSDs become cheaper and (B) The Move to Hybred HDDs that utilize a internal SATA III SSD.
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The Intel chipset (for hard drives) on the Z87 is improved over the Z77 chipset - Only effects SATA III SSD performance
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USB support. Z77 = 4 USB2 + 2 USB3 vs Z87 with 2 USB2 + 4 USB3 ports.

PCI-e: Z77 = 2 x16 vsZ87 with 3 X16.
Caution generally with Z77 you DO NOT get to use 2 X 16, is it is really a X16 + x0 and when Both slots are used it often becomes a X8 + X8. Only reallly has an effect if you use more than one of the X16 slots - IE Downstream you want to improve gaming FPS by adding a 2nd GPU in xfire/sli configuration.

[/b]HDMI IN:[/b] Note while this has been added to Haswell, it is not incorporated on the cheaper MSI MB. ONLY would appeal to someone that would want to use their computer as a DVR

Two other diff, but probably not much effect:
Audio in: The Z77 uses a ALV 892 while the Z87 uses a ALC1150 - Unknown if that is a improvement in audio.
Lan In: Z77 uses a Realtek 8111E, Z87 a Qualcom Killer E2205.
Both have them same specs, Not real issue as Lan speed is going to be dictated By your Internet provider.

All to often we talk abut CPU performance differences and neglect the "side" issues. I it were not for the above difference I would recommend the SB. I have a i5-2500K and the ONLY reason (an I have not made up my mind) would be for the MB advancements and NOT for the SMALL differences in CPU performance.

Only real comment on your build would be the Ram. There is very little real life performance diff between DDR3-1600 CL 8 ram and DDR3-2400 CL11 Ram - No biggy as they are about the same price (just checked).
 
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JackNaylorPE

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Ya spending $560 for the MoBo / CPU combo which inkludes a $210 MoBo. This gives ya a $250 MoBo w/ a 5 year warranty for $60 less. Asus Z87 Sabertooth w/ 4770k .... Savings $60 and better MoBo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1389944

I just don't see the 780 for $650. Two 770s for $400 each makes a lot more sense.....50-60% performance improvement for just 23% price increase. Bit I spent $150 of ya budget.... minus $60 savings above , ya at +$90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125463

Let's save some money and upgrade the case and CPU quality while we are at it .... The combo you have is $290 .... Corsair 500R w/ HX850 (10.0 jonnyguru rating) is $210 after MIRS ....savings $80 .... so far I got ya $10 above old build but huge upgrades
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1390832

YA have 4 sticks of RAM.... two would make things easier on ya COPUs memory controller.... and these are low profile. +$5 cost change, so I am $15 over old build.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226425

Cooler / TIM - If ya consider any of these alternates, i hope its this one .... I dont know what the attraction is for these H series coolers. For mr to consider putting water inside a hi priced PC, it's gotta offer huge benefits..... and the H100 does NOT do that. It will give ya 1/2 degree C in exchange for sounding like ya live next to an airport.

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/corsair_h100_hydro_series_extreme_performance_liquid_cpu_cooler,14.html

H100 = 50.5
Phanteks PH-TC14PE - 51.0
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http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/corsair_h100_hydro_series_extreme_performance_liquid_cpu_cooler,16.html

However, this performance comes at a cost; noise. At 2600RPM, the H100 isn’t a quiet unit at all and similarly at 2000RPM, it can still be quite intrusive. In terms of performance per noise, high end air coolers from Phanteks, Noctua and Thermalright still reign supreme, contrary to Corsair’s own marketing. Like other ALC units, the H100 relies too much on high RPM fans for its performance when the goal of water cooling is generally for extreme performance at low noise levels.
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As for the TIM.... have ya read the bottom of AS5's home page ? The part where it takes 200 hours of thermal cycling to cure.... (about a year of average use). Shin Etsu has same thermal properties as AS5 but no curing issues. Savings = $31 and now ya have ... SO ya now $16 ahead

http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=150&Itemid=62&limit=1&limitstart=12
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683515008

Cooler - $80 - Phanteks PH-TC14 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835709011
TIM - $7 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835150080

Windows Ultimate offers ya 2 things .... oodles of languages and Bit Locker (good idea for portables) .... Suggest saving $50 and getting professional version. That's an extra $66 in ya pocket.

The one hing that looks really outta place is ya monitor.....

If gaming is the high priority Id recommend the 144 Hz Asus
$280 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313

If photo editing, Id use an IPS panel
$255 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236287

I should mention that I just traded out my Senn's for the Logitech G930 .... got tired of yanking them off my head when standing up and pulling the cord.


Might wanna spring for a BR Player / DVD Writer for an extra $30
 
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