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July 18, 2013 11:46:33 AM

I am planning to build a mini ITX rig for gaming (Battlefield 3 and 4 primarily) and casual use. I will have the GTX 770 for the GPU, Intel i7 4770k for the processor, and 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance for RAM. I am NOT planning to overclock anything.

I really want to get the ASUS Maximus VI Impact motherboard because of its isolated SupremeFX audio solution. However, I think it is going to be a while until release. At first, I read that it will be released in July but now I hear rumors that the launch date got postponed to mid August. Since I cannot wait that long, I am instead thinking about getting the ASUS H87I-PLUS (http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Haswell-Mini-Form-Factor/dp/...) and get an external sound card (http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Sound-Blaster-System-SB1...). Do you guys think that motherboard is a good choice for gaming, considering I will run everything at stock speed?
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July 18, 2013 11:54:09 AM

pcsuperhero said:
I am planning to build a mini ITX rig for gaming (Battlefield 3 and 4 primarily) and casual use. I will have the GTX 770 for the GPU, Intel i7 4770k for the processor, and 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance for RAM. I am NOT planning to overclock anything.

I really want to get the ASUS Maximus VI Impact motherboard because of its isolated SupremeFX audio solution. However, I think it is going to be a while until release. At first, I read that it will be released in July but now I hear rumors that the launch date got postponed to mid August. Since I cannot wait that long, I am instead thinking about getting the ASUS H87I-PLUS (http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Haswell-Mini-Form-Factor/dp/...) and get an external sound card (http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Sound-Blaster-System-SB1...). Do you guys think that motherboard is a good choice for gaming, considering I will run everything at stock speed?


Yeah that motherboard is awesome. I mean, for gaming, you need PCIe 2.0 or better. It'll be years before you could take advantage of more than the 16GB that you could fit on that board with its two DIMM slots. Um, yeah. I got nothing. It's all the board you could want for what you described.

Are you getting the ASUS ITX version of the 570 perchance?
July 18, 2013 11:58:35 AM

drewhoo said:
pcsuperhero said:
I am planning to build a mini ITX rig for gaming (Battlefield 3 and 4 primarily) and casual use. I will have the GTX 770 for the GPU, Intel i7 4770k for the processor, and 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance for RAM. I am NOT planning to overclock anything.

I really want to get the ASUS Maximus VI Impact motherboard because of its isolated SupremeFX audio solution. However, I think it is going to be a while until release. At first, I read that it will be released in July but now I hear rumors that the launch date got postponed to mid August. Since I cannot wait that long, I am instead thinking about getting the ASUS H87I-PLUS (http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Haswell-Mini-Form-Factor/dp/...) and get an external sound card (http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Sound-Blaster-System-SB1...). Do you guys think that motherboard is a good choice for gaming, considering I will run everything at stock speed?


Yeah that motherboard is awesome. I mean, for gaming, you need PCIe 2.0 or better. It'll be years before you could take advantage of more than the 16GB that you could fit on that board with its two DIMM slots. Um, yeah. I got nothing. It's all the board you could want for what you described.

Are you getting the ASUS ITX version of the 570 perchance?


Thank you for your input. What do you mean by "ASUS ITX version of 570?"
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July 18, 2013 12:04:49 PM
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Ack. I meant 770. But the card I was referencing is actually a 670 so nevermind. Asus made a GPU specifically designed to work well in an ITX box. There must not have been a huge demand for them because they don't seem to be offering a 770 version.

http://www.asus.com/us/Graphics_Cards/GTX670DCMOC2GD5/

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July 18, 2013 12:11:03 PM

If you don't plan on overclocking then go with just the i7 4770, NOT the K. You'll save yourself a few bucks and it performs the same.

EDIT: as a matter of fact if this is just for gaming you could go with the i5 4670 and not notice much of a difference, but save about a 100 bucks
July 18, 2013 12:58:32 PM

Christian Angelo said:
If you don't plan on overclocking then go with just the i7 4770, NOT the K. You'll save yourself a few bucks and it performs the same.

EDIT: as a matter of fact if this is just for gaming you could go with the i5 4670 and not notice much of a difference, but save about a 100 bucks


What is the difference between 4770 and 4770k? Is the only difference one being overclockable and the other not being overclockable.
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July 18, 2013 1:01:32 PM

pcsuperhero said:
Christian Angelo said:
If you don't plan on overclocking then go with just the i7 4770, NOT the K. You'll save yourself a few bucks and it performs the same.

EDIT: as a matter of fact if this is just for gaming you could go with the i5 4670 and not notice much of a difference, but save about a 100 bucks


What is the difference between 4770 and 4770k? Is the only difference one being overclockable and the other not being overclockable.


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July 23, 2013 11:32:07 PM

Hey, Mini-ITX is great if you can sacrifice a few things for the miniature form factor. But since you're building a gaming PC might I suggest you get the i5-4670K instead? Hyperthreading is virtually non-existent at the time of gaming, unless you plan on 3D work, video editing, etc you could always get the 4670K. By that way you'd save an extra 100 bucks which you could spend on something like an SSD or maybe even a better GPU (since it's for gaming). And don't bother getting 16GB as of now, I use 8 gigs and it can still handle anything I throw at it. But if you want to, it's not going to harm.

Oh, and the motherboard you've chosen seems promising! Good luck with the build!
July 24, 2013 8:31:17 AM

thegeekfather said:
Hey, Mini-ITX is great if you can sacrifice a few things for the miniature form factor. But since you're building a gaming PC might I suggest you get the i5-4670K instead? Hyperthreading is virtually non-existent at the time of gaming, unless you plan on 3D work, video editing, etc you could always get the 4670K. By that way you'd save an extra 100 bucks which you could spend on something like an SSD or maybe even a better GPU (since it's for gaming). And don't bother getting 16GB as of now, I use 8 gigs and it can still handle anything I throw at it. But if you want to, it's not going to harm.

Oh, and the motherboard you've chosen seems promising! Good luck with the build!


Thank you for your input. I have a question about the 4670 vs 4770. Doesn't games such as Battlefield 3 (which I mostly play) use hyperthreading? Also, wouldn't the hyperthreading be future proof for games in the next few years such as Battlefield 4?
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July 24, 2013 8:37:02 AM

Battlefield 3 uses multithreading not hyperthreading.

I can't say for sure, but I have my doubts that hyperthreading will be utilized in future games either
July 24, 2013 8:46:40 AM

Does anyone have inputs/thoughts on Christian Angelo's suggestion above? Should I go for 4670 instead of 4770?
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July 24, 2013 9:33:09 AM

Think of it this way. Wouldn't it be more beneficial to you to use that extra 100 bucks on a better graphics card, since video games rely more heavily on graphics than CPU in the first place? You'd impact your performance much more this way

Do you see my point?

Edit: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2207167&pa...

Check out the second to last post, they give a very good explanation on the topic
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