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July 18, 2013 7:10:14 PM

I currently have 4GB of memory on my dell inspiron and I want to upgrade to 8gb. Will the Kingston Technology HyperX Blu 8GB 1333MHz work for my Dell 04GJJT motherboard? If not, what one will work?

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July 18, 2013 7:12:38 PM

Can't say. What sort of RAM are you running currently, DDR-2 or DDR-3?
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July 18, 2013 7:16:23 PM

bigpinkdragon286 said:
Can't say. What sort of RAM are you running currently, DDR-2 or DDR-3?


DDR 3
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July 18, 2013 7:29:19 PM

Should work fine and as long as your current 4 GB is dual channel (2 identical modules), there should be no harm in keeping it while adding the new RAM, provided the new modules and old modules are the same speed (1333 MHz.)

There may be lower cost RAM kits available however, if you were not trying to match your current setup.

Edit:

Looking at the specifications for your motherboard, it lists 8 GB as the maximum supported memory configuration. I'm not quite sure why they would list that, as the memory controller is inside the CPU, and clearly an AM3 CPU supports more than 8 GB. I'm wondering if the memory sockets are flaky when populated with higher than 8 GB? I would test the system with your current 4 GB and the new 8 GB installed, if you are interested in running greater than 8 GB. May not be any real-world issues.

You should test the new RAM modules after installation anyway. It's free and can help prevent potential headaches.

Windows Memory Diagnostic:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/diagnosing-...

MemTest86:

http://www.memtest86.com/

Memtest86+:

http://www.memtest.org/
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July 18, 2013 7:34:02 PM

bhawks1831 said:
I currently have 4GB of memory on my dell inspiron and I want to upgrade to 8gb. Will the Kingston Technology HyperX Blu 8GB 1333MHz work for my Dell 04GJJT motherboard? If not, what one will work?


bigpinkdragon286 said:
Can't say. What sort of RAM are you running currently, DDR-2 or DDR-3?


you will need to upgrade by adding 2x2G to your system. for total 8G of Ram.

make sure you order 2x2G DDR3 1333 or DDR3 1600 , 1.5v you will be fine

you should add Ram in pairs on your system it is dual channel. and you have 4 dimms

for maximum 8G , all 4 dimms must have 2G ddr3 1333 each

you have an Inspiron 570

try Crucial , they have the best servce and ship world wide

here is your system and the compatable Ram with it

http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=Inspi...



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July 18, 2013 7:40:41 PM

bigpinkdragon286 said:
Should work fine and as long as your current 4 GB is dual channel (2 identical modules), there should be no harm in keeping it while adding the new RAM, provided the new modules and old modules are the same speed (1333 MHz.)

There may be lower cost RAM kits available however, if you were not trying to match your current setup.

Edit:

Looking at the specifications for your motherboard, it lists 8 GB as the maximum supported memory configuration. I'm not quite sure why they would list that, as the memory controller is inside the CPU, and clearly an AM3 CPU supports more than 8 GB. I'm wondering if the memory sockets are flaky when populated with higher than 8 GB? I would test the system with your current 4 GB and the new 8 GB installed, if you are interested in running greater than 8 GB. May not be any real-world issues.

You should test the new RAM modules after installation anyway. It's free and can help prevent potential headaches.

Windows Memory Diagnostic:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/diagnosing-...

MemTest86:

http://www.memtest86.com/

Memtest86+:

http://www.memtest.org/


SNA3 said:
bhawks1831 said:
I currently have 4GB of memory on my dell inspiron and I want to upgrade to 8gb. Will the Kingston Technology HyperX Blu 8GB 1333MHz work for my Dell 04GJJT motherboard? If not, what one will work?


bigpinkdragon286 said:
Can't say. What sort of RAM are you running currently, DDR-2 or DDR-3?


you will need to upgrade by adding 2x2G to your system. for total 8G of Ram.

make sure you order 2x2G DDR3 1333 or DDR3 1600 , 1.5v you will be fine

you should add Ram in pairs on your system it is dual channel. and you have 4 dimms

for maximum 8G , all 4 dimms must have 2G ddr3 1333 each

you have an Inspiron 570

try Crucial , they have the best servce and ship world wide

here is your system and the compatable Ram with it

http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=Inspi...





Thank you, but I was think of adding 2 4gb sticks, cause right now i have 4 1 gb sticks, so would I have to order 2 of those, or could I buy 2 4gb?
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July 18, 2013 7:53:51 PM

2 x 4 GB modules should work perfectly fine. The motherboard does not determine the memory controller, which is in the CPU, and which can easily handle 4 GB modules. The most influence the motherboard can assert on an AM3 system is with how the traces from the CPU socket to the memory module sockets are routed and the voltage applied (which can be adjusted.) In some cases, higher speeds, or higher densities are not recommended, but can often be worked around by changing the timings. 4 GB modules at 1333 MHz should hardly be considered stressful.
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July 18, 2013 7:56:45 PM

bhawks1831 said:
bigpinkdragon286 said:
Should work fine and as long as your current 4 GB is dual channel (2 identical modules), there should be no harm in keeping it while adding the new RAM, provided the new modules and old modules are the same speed (1333 MHz.)

There may be lower cost RAM kits available however, if you were not trying to match your current setup.

Edit:

Looking at the specifications for your motherboard, it lists 8 GB as the maximum supported memory configuration. I'm not quite sure why they would list that, as the memory controller is inside the CPU, and clearly an AM3 CPU supports more than 8 GB. I'm wondering if the memory sockets are flaky when populated with higher than 8 GB? I would test the system with your current 4 GB and the new 8 GB installed, if you are interested in running greater than 8 GB. May not be any real-world issues.

You should test the new RAM modules after installation anyway. It's free and can help prevent potential headaches.

Windows Memory Diagnostic:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/diagnosing-...

MemTest86:

http://www.memtest86.com/

Memtest86+:

http://www.memtest.org/


SNA3 said:
bhawks1831 said:
I currently have 4GB of memory on my dell inspiron and I want to upgrade to 8gb. Will the Kingston Technology HyperX Blu 8GB 1333MHz work for my Dell 04GJJT motherboard? If not, what one will work?


bigpinkdragon286 said:
Can't say. What sort of RAM are you running currently, DDR-2 or DDR-3?


you will need to upgrade by adding 2x2G to your system. for total 8G of Ram.

make sure you order 2x2G DDR3 1333 or DDR3 1600 , 1.5v you will be fine

you should add Ram in pairs on your system it is dual channel. and you have 4 dimms

for maximum 8G , all 4 dimms must have 2G ddr3 1333 each

you have an Inspiron 570

try Crucial , they have the best servce and ship world wide

here is your system and the compatable Ram with it

http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=Inspi...





Thank you, but I was think of adding 2 4gb sticks, cause right now i have 4 1 gb sticks, so would I have to order 2 of those, or could I buy 2 4gb?



you will need to buy four , (2G DDR3 1333 x 4)

I am not sure if Dell bios would Allow more than 8G .. it is Risky.
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July 18, 2013 7:56:52 PM

bigpinkdragon286 said:
2 x 4 GB modules should work perfectly fine. The motherboard does not determine the memory controller, which is in the CPU, and which can easily handle 4 GB modules. The most influence the motherboard can assert on an AM3 system is with how the traces from the CPU socket to the memory module sockets are routed and the voltage applied (which can be adjusted.) In some cases, higher speeds, or higher densities are not recommended, but can often be worked around by changing the timings. 4 GB modules at 1333 MHz should hardly be considered stressful.


Thank you very much! You helped me out alot and cleared alot of confusion!
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July 18, 2013 8:23:03 PM

bigpinkdragon286 said:
2 x 4 GB modules should work perfectly fine. The motherboard does not determine the memory controller, which is in the CPU, and which can easily handle 4 GB modules. The most influence the motherboard can assert on an AM3 system is with how the traces from the CPU socket to the memory module sockets are routed and the voltage applied (which can be adjusted.) In some cases, higher speeds, or higher densities are not recommended, but can often be worked around by changing the timings. 4 GB modules at 1333 MHz should hardly be considered stressful.


how do you know it can be adjusted inside a DELL bios ?

this is too risky.

Dell bios does not give you control over voltage and sorta things in general.
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July 18, 2013 8:24:42 PM

bhawks1831 said:
bigpinkdragon286 said:
2 x 4 GB modules should work perfectly fine. The motherboard does not determine the memory controller, which is in the CPU, and which can easily handle 4 GB modules. The most influence the motherboard can assert on an AM3 system is with how the traces from the CPU socket to the memory module sockets are routed and the voltage applied (which can be adjusted.) In some cases, higher speeds, or higher densities are not recommended, but can often be worked around by changing the timings. 4 GB modules at 1333 MHz should hardly be considered stressful.


Thank you very much! You helped me out alot and cleared alot of confusion!


get 2G DDR3 1333 x4 , you dont know if your DELL BIOS can allow you to install higher capacity dimms or not. it is risky.
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July 18, 2013 9:07:55 PM

SNA3 said:
bhawks1831 said:
bigpinkdragon286 said:
2 x 4 GB modules should work perfectly fine. The motherboard does not determine the memory controller, which is in the CPU, and which can easily handle 4 GB modules. The most influence the motherboard can assert on an AM3 system is with how the traces from the CPU socket to the memory module sockets are routed and the voltage applied (which can be adjusted.) In some cases, higher speeds, or higher densities are not recommended, but can often be worked around by changing the timings. 4 GB modules at 1333 MHz should hardly be considered stressful.


Thank you very much! You helped me out alot and cleared alot of confusion!


get 2G DDR3 1333 x4 , you dont know if your DELL BIOS can allow you to install higher capacity dimms or not. it is risky.


I was thinking of replacing the 4 1gb and adding in the 2 4gb, could my BIOS handle that? Im guessing so, but just double checking
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July 18, 2013 9:14:26 PM

bhawks1831 said:
SNA3 said:
bhawks1831 said:
bigpinkdragon286 said:
2 x 4 GB modules should work perfectly fine. The motherboard does not determine the memory controller, which is in the CPU, and which can easily handle 4 GB modules. The most influence the motherboard can assert on an AM3 system is with how the traces from the CPU socket to the memory module sockets are routed and the voltage applied (which can be adjusted.) In some cases, higher speeds, or higher densities are not recommended, but can often be worked around by changing the timings. 4 GB modules at 1333 MHz should hardly be considered stressful.


Thank you very much! You helped me out alot and cleared alot of confusion!


get 2G DDR3 1333 x4 , you dont know if your DELL BIOS can allow you to install higher capacity dimms or not. it is risky.


I was thinking of replacing the 4 1gb and adding in the 2 4gb, could my BIOS handle that? Im guessing so, but just double checking


dont buy 2x 4G , buy 4x 2G ... unless you can return the ram if they dont work.
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July 18, 2013 9:20:10 PM

Why would Dell artificially limit the RAM module compatibility in BIOS? Why are you telling the OP to purchase 4 x 2 GB modules? Do you have information stating this is the only compatible configuration? If so, please post it.
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July 18, 2013 9:27:45 PM

bhawks1831 said:

I was thinking of replacing the 4 1gb and adding in the 2 4gb, could my BIOS handle that? Im guessing so, but just double checking

Don't go with 4GB modules, your system will not recognize it (85%), if you wanna give it a shot then you can do so at your own risk. Crucial and other vendors update their sites constantly and if there was some model which supported new memory they would've updated their sites right away without hesitation but that's not the case. Many memory vendors test various type of memory with each model, so i think it is a bad move. But yeah, why not give it a try? you are not gonna harm anything but may lose some days due to the RMA and stuff, if it doesn't work.
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July 18, 2013 9:35:13 PM

Legohouse said:
bhawks1831 said:

I was thinking of replacing the 4 1gb and adding in the 2 4gb, could my BIOS handle that? Im guessing so, but just double checking

Don't go with 4GB modules, your system will not recognize it (85%), if you wanna give it a shot then you can do so at your own risk. Crucial and other vendors update their sites constantly and if there was some model which supported new memory they would've updated their sites right away without hesitation but that's not the case. Many memory vendors test various type of memory with each model, so i think it is a bad move. But yeah, why not give it a try? you are not gonna harm anything but may lose some days due to the RMA and stuff, if it doesn't work.


So I should get a 4 2gb Ram sticks? Is there a specific one that I should get?
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July 18, 2013 9:47:04 PM

bigpinkdragon286 said:
Why would Dell artificially limit the RAM module compatibility in BIOS? Why are you telling the OP to purchase 4 x 2 GB modules? Do you have information stating this is the only compatible configuration? If so, please post it.


actually it is you who cant post anything.

you are just "guessing"

oh the AMD has controller inside , oh this oh that.

DELL Specs says 8G ram MAX . and Crucial site doesnt not put ANY 4G module as compatable modules.

did you download the manual and see if 4G dimms would run ? or are you just guessing?

I KNOW about the internal memory in the CPU and I KNOW it mite work , but when I give advice I give it the SAFE side not the GAMBLING side

did you bother to look at the motherboard BIOS ? did you?

or are you guessing ?

you can down load the manual and read the Bios section.

oh yea you are Guessing.

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July 18, 2013 9:47:42 PM

bhawks1831 said:

So I should get a 4 2gb Ram sticks? Is there a specific one that I should get?

Yes, 4 x 2GB is what I recommend. Try getting 1333MHz Non-ECC DIMM like the ones mentioned in the below link - http://www.memorystock.com/orderitem.asp?it=809ms-809

IMO, don't go with Advanced RAM like HyperX just get a ValueRAM (like the above or kingston ValueRAM, Crucial) and heat spreaders are of no use when you are using your system for basic stuffs.
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July 18, 2013 9:50:13 PM

Legohouse said:
bhawks1831 said:

So I should get a 4 2gb Ram sticks? Is there a specific one that I should get?

Yes, 4 x 2GB is what I recommend. Try getting 1333MHz Non-ECC DIMM like the ones mentioned in the below link - http://www.memorystock.com/orderitem.asp?it=809ms-809

IMO, don't go with Advanced RAM like HyperX just get a ValueRAM (like the above or kingston ValueRAM, Crucial) and heat spreaders are of no use when you are using your system for basic stuffs.


Is there a reason that you recommend 4x2? I was reading around and I saw that with all the slots occupied with ram, it adds more stress to the motherboard than 2 slots open
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July 18, 2013 9:53:03 PM

bhawks1831 said:
Legohouse said:
bhawks1831 said:

So I should get a 4 2gb Ram sticks? Is there a specific one that I should get?

Yes, 4 x 2GB is what I recommend. Try getting 1333MHz Non-ECC DIMM like the ones mentioned in the below link - http://www.memorystock.com/orderitem.asp?it=809ms-809

IMO, don't go with Advanced RAM like HyperX just get a ValueRAM (like the above or kingston ValueRAM, Crucial) and heat spreaders are of no use when you are using your system for basic stuffs.


Is there a reason that you recommend 4x2? I was reading around and I saw that with all the slots occupied with ram, it adds more stress to the motherboard than 2 slots open


err

stress ?!?!



... no comment...
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July 18, 2013 9:55:55 PM

SNA3 said:
bhawks1831 said:
Legohouse said:
bhawks1831 said:

So I should get a 4 2gb Ram sticks? Is there a specific one that I should get?

Yes, 4 x 2GB is what I recommend. Try getting 1333MHz Non-ECC DIMM like the ones mentioned in the below link - http://www.memorystock.com/orderitem.asp?it=809ms-809

IMO, don't go with Advanced RAM like HyperX just get a ValueRAM (like the above or kingston ValueRAM, Crucial) and heat spreaders are of no use when you are using your system for basic stuffs.


Is there a reason that you recommend 4x2? I was reading around and I saw that with all the slots occupied with ram, it adds more stress to the motherboard than 2 slots open


err

stress ?!?!



... no comment...


Well I heard that 2x4 is more stable
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July 18, 2013 9:58:58 PM

Yes, it does add some stress on the memory controller but that is negligible and you wouldn't notice. Usually, I too recommend install 2 modules over 4 modules but only for systems capable of handling more memory like 32GB or 64GB. In that case, user will be happy to get 16GB ( 2x8GB) or 32GB leaving other slots for future upgrade.

In your case, you are looking to upgrade to 8GB which is the max. There is no way you are gonna achieve that unless you use "Four 2GB modules" and there is no way around that. To add to that, your motherboard does not support 4GB modules and there is no reason why you have consider adding them. Moreover, you cannot achieve the maximum without populating all the slots? :sarcastic: 
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July 18, 2013 10:00:03 PM

bhawks1831 said:
SNA3 said:
bhawks1831 said:
Legohouse said:
bhawks1831 said:

So I should get a 4 2gb Ram sticks? Is there a specific one that I should get?

Yes, 4 x 2GB is what I recommend. Try getting 1333MHz Non-ECC DIMM like the ones mentioned in the below link - http://www.memorystock.com/orderitem.asp?it=809ms-809

IMO, don't go with Advanced RAM like HyperX just get a ValueRAM (like the above or kingston ValueRAM, Crucial) and heat spreaders are of no use when you are using your system for basic stuffs.


Is there a reason that you recommend 4x2? I was reading around and I saw that with all the slots occupied with ram, it adds more stress to the motherboard than 2 slots open


err

stress ?!?!



... no comment...


Well I heard that 2x4 is more stable


thats when you overclock.... not when you run things normal from DELL.
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July 18, 2013 10:16:12 PM

Legohouse said:
Yes, it does add some stress on the memory controller but that is negligible and you wouldn't notice. Usually, I too recommend install 2 modules over 4 modules but only for systems capable of handling more memory like 32GB or 64GB. In that case, user will be happy to get 16GB ( 2x8GB) or 32GB leaving other slots for future upgrade.

In your case, you are looking to upgrade to 8GB which is the max. There is no way you are gonna achieve that unless you use "Four 2GB modules" and there is no way around that. To add to that, your motherboard does not support 4GB modules and there is no reason why you have consider adding them. Moreover, you cannot achieve the maximum without populating all the slots? :sarcastic: 


I see, Thank you for helping me, and saving me 60 bucks!
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July 18, 2013 10:21:35 PM

bhawks1831 said:

I see, Thank you for helping me, and saving me 60 bucks!

Well, the pleasure is mine!! :welcome: 
Cheers, mate!! :hihi: 
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July 19, 2013 12:02:22 AM

SNA3 said:
bigpinkdragon286 said:
Why would Dell artificially limit the RAM module compatibility in BIOS? Why are you telling the OP to purchase 4 x 2 GB modules? Do you have information stating this is the only compatible configuration? If so, please post it.


actually it is you who cant post anything.

you are just "guessing"

oh the AMD has controller inside , oh this oh that.

DELL Specs says 8G ram MAX . and Crucial site doesnt not put ANY 4G module as compatable modules.

did you download the manual and see if 4G dimms would run ? or are you just guessing?

I KNOW about the internal memory in the CPU and I KNOW it mite work , but when I give advice I give it the SAFE side not the GAMBLING side

did you bother to look at the motherboard BIOS ? did you?

or are you guessing ?

you can down load the manual and read the Bios section.

oh yea you are Guessing.



I'm not guessing at all, and I'm also not getting angry. Memory capacity in an AM3 based system is determined by the processor used and to a very minor degree by the electrical traces between the memory and processor sockets. The BIOS determines the timings the modules will be run at. Why would you suggest I read the BIOS section of a motherboard manual to determine memory capacity?

I apologize however, as I feel as though I have managed to upset you, but I still respectfully disagree with your insistence that only 4 x 2 GB 1333 MHz modules will achieve the desired 8 GB configuration. :-)

If you take into account that only 2 modules are officially supported when running at 1333 MHz on early AM3 model DDR 3 controllers, I would actually not consider 4 x 2 GB 1333 MHz to be a safe recommendation at all. The memory controller may end up running such a configuration at 1066 MHz, if proper timing can't be achieved on the 4 modules.

Here is a nice article concerning the DDR 3 issues:

http://www.techpowerup.com/84955/phenom-ii-am3-plagued-...

Here is another article concerning upgrades possible beyond what Dell manuals specify:

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3...

For those who don't care to follow the link:

"According to the official Dell manuals, Inspiron 570 is limited to 8 GB of maximum 1333 MHz memory, however it was found that 16 GB of 1333 MHZ is recognized, faster RAM would slowed down to 1333 MHz." [sic]

For the thread's edification, here is the Dell service manual:

ftp://ftp.dell.com/Manuals/Common/inspiron-560_service%...

I'm not disputing what is written in Dell's service manual, I am disputing it's accuracy.

A few things to consider:

Did Dell even bother to test 4 GB modules with the system in question?

For that matter, did Crucial test 4 GB modules with the system in question, or any modules at all? Why would Crucial do more than is necessary? It's an expensive proposition to purchase computer systems or even motherboards, from all of the major manufacturers, just to test module compatibility, especially undocumented memory compatibility. Crucial is likely taking the Dell service manual at face value and going no further in their recommendation.

I would understand from your comment that a lack of recommendation is a condemnation, but that is an assertion you are making on your own.
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July 19, 2013 9:05:20 AM

FINAL word is mine, too bad I am too late here, so much confusion and passion - for nothing.

Lets start from introduction - I am the one who wrote this guide

Quote:
Here is another article concerning upgrades possible beyond what Dell manuals specify:

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3...

For those who don't care to follow the link:

"According to the official Dell manuals, Inspiron 570 is limited to 8 GB of maximum 1333 MHz memory, however it was found that 16 GB of 1333 MHZ is recognized, faster RAM would slowed down to 1333 MHz." [sic]


I can only add that fancy RAM might not work, I used Corsair Vengeance 4GB X 2 sticks, so I can upgrade to 16GB if I wish later!
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July 19, 2013 11:32:34 AM

Well, actually, it's nice to meet you. I appreciated reading your guide, that if not for this thread I may have never occasion to run across. :-)
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