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need help choosing graphics card

i am building a gaming pc, and i am really stuck on the graphics card. here are my current suggestions for myself:
geforce GTX 760
Geforce GTX 670
radeon 7870 XT
radeon 7870
i know that the 670 is the best performer, but i don't know which one will be best for the games i am going to be playing, which are bf3 bf4 crysis 1, 2, 3, and Natural selection 2. i do not plan to overclock, so which one will get me the best bang for my buck? thanks
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  1. The 760 will likely give you the best bang for buck, as it performs slightly under the 670, but for significantly less money, at $250.
  2. i suppose ill go with that. would it work well with an AMD FX 6300, or should i get a processor that a bit more poweful, like an FX 8320?
  3. It should play pretty nicely with the 6300. However, the 8320 is VERY cheap right now, so you may as well grab it while the deal lasts. And it overclocks like a BEAST.
  4. well im not planning to overclock, but would it give noticeable frame rate differences with games like crysis 3 or BF4?
  5. someguy827 said:
    well im not planning to overclock, but would it give noticeable frame rate differences with games like crysis 3 or BF4?


    In BF4, most likely yes. Especially if you turn up the "mesh quality" setting, which determines how far you can see spotted enemies. That gives you a big tactical advantage, however it really puts your CPU to work. With the FX series however, there really isn't any reason not to OC.
  6. how much does clockspeed help in gaming anyway?
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    someguy827 said:
    how much does clockspeed help in gaming anyway?


    Well sometimes it doesn't. As a matter of fact, most games are not really CPU bound. But MMO's (I'm looking at you, Planetside), and any other game that has a lot of other players is going to rely on CPU power a lot. Now with intel CPU's clockspeed does not really matter as much, because they have pretty strong single core performance, arguably the most important thing when it comes to gaming. AMD CPU's tend to have relatively weak single core performance, and tend to execute less instruction sets per clock. So to counter this downfall, AMD has incorporated two features: overclockability (which currently intel lacks), and serious multithreaded performance. Multithreaded performance does not matter too much in gaming, so now we are down to clock speed. To counter the weak single core performance and relatively low instructions per clock, you can overclock to basically add more clock cycles. In essence, the CPU will perform less instructions per clock, but it will have more clocks, creating an effective counter. So how does this affect gaming performance? Well the main goal of having a CPU is to stop it from bottlenecking the GPU. So having a stronger CPU will likely not increase maximum frames per second, but it will increase the minimum average, meaning you get a more constant framerate overall, which is way more important than just getting more frames. Conclusion? You want a CPU that will carry your GPU. If it does not quite do the job, you can give it a small kick in the pants by overclocking.
  8. so would an overclocked FX 6300 do it, or should i get the 8320 and overclock that?
  9. If you have the money, grab the 8320. However, if you are on a budget, you may be able to grab the 6300, then spend the money on a better cooler for a higher OC.
  10. well since its only another $40 i guess ill go with it.
    So here is my build:
    AMD FX 8320
    asus geforce GTX 760
    Gigabyte GA-970A-D3
    Seasonic M12II 620 bronze
    WD black 500GB
    not sure about the case
    SSD will be added later
    crucial ballistix sport 8GB
    should i change anything?
  11. someguy827 said:
    well since its only another $40 i guess ill go with it.
    So here is my build:
    AMD FX 8320
    asus geforce GTX 760
    Gigabyte GA-970A-D3
    Seasonic M12II 620 bronze
    WD black 500GB
    not sure about the case
    SSD will be added later
    crucial ballistix sport 8GB
    should i change anything?


    Nope, it looks very good. Very nice PSU choice. Just remember, for overclocking, you will need an aftermarket heatsink. At the low end of the market, the Cooler master Hyper 212 will perform best, and at the high end, the Phanteks PH-TC14PE will perform the best, and the quietest. However, you will need a pretty wide case to fit it.
  12. could you suggest a case?
  13. someguy827 said:
    could you suggest a case?


    How much are you willing to spend?
  14. hmm. $40 max? i don't want to spend too much on it.
  15. someguy827 said:
    hmm. $40 max? i don't want to spend too much on it.


    Hmm. That's a pretty low budget. You may want to skimp on something and allocate the money toward the case. I wouldn't suggest anything lower than $80, because you don't want to skimp on something that is holding your PC together.
  16. what about the corsair carbide 300R?
  17. That is a pretty good case, but I would suggest this:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147107
    Better cable management, and it will provide an overall better user experience. And it looks quite snazzy IMO.
  18. it seems overkill for me.
  19. someguy827 said:
    it seems overkill for me.


    Visually? Because there is no such thing as overkill when it comes to case functionality.
  20. no i mean that i dont need 8 expansion slots and 10 drive days
  21. someguy827 said:
    no i mean that i dont need 8 expansion slots and 10 drive days


    But it can't hurt. Also, it is the same price as the 300R. It has a better overall user rating, and from the looks of it, cleaner cable management, and if you have ever built a PC before, you will understand how important that is. But if you still don't like it, here are some others:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139008 Costs a little more, but is a fantastic case.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811208036 Nice looking, good cable management.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147161 Simpler case, no lights, good cable management.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119263 Nice looking case, mobility, good cable management.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119259 Simple case, subtle lighting, good cable management.
  22. Another poster recommended these:
    My son is using the Challenger and it was a good case to work in and has good airflow.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147060
    My grandson's build went into the RedBone, kinda light but has been a pleasure to work in.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147160
  23. arg, i can't decide...
  24. someguy827 said:
    arg, i can't decide...


    Where are you going to place the computer?
  25. probably under my desk
  26. someguy827 said:
    probably under my desk


    Go with the Rosewill Challenger
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147060
  27. would it work with these parts?
    AMD FX 8320
    Asus geforce GTX 760
    Seasonic M12II 620 bronze
    crucial ballistix sport 8GB
    gigabyte GA-970A-D3
    WD caviar Black 500GB 7200RPM 2.5'
    samsung 840 series 120GB 2.5'
    ASUS 24X DVD Burner
  28. Glad you asked, got me thinking. I will save you a couple dollars, maybe.
    If you are going with the Challenger case that ws linked, that has USB3.0 ports on the front panel and no USB2.0 on the front.
    I took a close look at your mobo (on newegg) and it does NOT appear to have any USB3.0 headers (where you connect your front panel USB ports) on that board.

    Money saving solution: go with the older design, save $10.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

    Maybe not a money saver, costs $5 more, go with the updated MoBo; it has 2 USB3.0 onboard headers, plus another 10% off until 7/25. (Hmmm. 94.99 minus 9.50 = $85.49. about the same as the original board when you add in shipping)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128627

    Last but not least, expl0itfinder has spent considerable effort and time helping you. He didn't make a mistake in suggesting the Challenger and Redbone, it was I that passed that info to him, but he had already looked up a lot of equipment. He deserves Best Answer when you are satisfied with this thread.
    Let us know what your final build is going to be by reposting here.
  29. Cool thanks
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