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July 19, 2013 2:53:19 PM

Hey guys!

I was done with my list, and was ready to start ordering pieces when I noticed that the deal for a free 8GB of ram was gone (with the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard).

So now I need to find some ram. Does anyone know what ram is the cheapest good is? Or if another similar mobo's have this deal?

Here's my parts list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1inVA

THANKS!

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July 19, 2013 3:13:19 PM

I would change a lot of that set-up.
-Socket LGA 1155 is dead for new builders, grab the newer Socket LGA 1150.
-The Gaia is cheaply made.
-Rather than grabbing a 128gb SSD, i would rather opt for a 1tb HDD for storage purposes (unless you already have an HDD to re-use).
-Monitor is expensive.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($65.70 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($403.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($124.00 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($137.58 @ Newegg)
Total: $1336.19
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-19 18:13 EDT-0400)

Also included a better case.
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July 19, 2013 3:13:36 PM

rushrage said:
Hey guys!

I was done with my list, and was ready to start ordering pieces when I noticed that the deal for a free 8GB of ram was gone (with the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard).

So now I need to find some ram. Does anyone know what ram is the cheapest good is? Or if another similar mobo's have this deal?

Here's my parts list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1inVA

THANKS!


I found the ram i have to be a pretty good price and i haven't had any problems with it.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-(2x4gb)-corsair-ddr3-vengeance-jet-black-lp-pc3-12800-(1600)-non-ecc-cas-9-9-9-24-xmp-15v
I haven't changed ram with different alternatives so i cant judge the speed in comparison with other ram but it seems pretty fast to me. There is also a single 4gb stick if you didnt want the 8gb.
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July 19, 2013 3:16:27 PM

realchaos said:
I would change a lot of that set-up.
-Socket LGA 1155 is dead for new builders, grab the newer Socket LGA 1150.
-The Gaia is cheaply made.
-Rather than grabbing a 128gb SSD, i would rather opt for a 1tb HDD for storage purposes (unless you already have an HDD to re-use).
-Monitor is expensive.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($65.70 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($403.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($124.00 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($137.58 @ Newegg)
Total: $1336.19
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-19 18:13 EDT-0400)

Also included a better case.


What the hell are you talking about LGA1155 isn't dead to new builders it is still perfectly fine. It isn't necessary to get the new socket because it only give a slight performance increase to the 1155 processors.
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July 19, 2013 3:21:49 PM

It's not recommended. Why buy a last-gen when you can buy the current-gen?
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July 19, 2013 3:27:18 PM

realchaos said:
It's not recommended. Why buy a last-gen when you can buy the current-gen?


Some people don't want to pay the price of current gen for only a small performance increase. For some people they might not require the newest and best performing components for their pc so they can buy last gen parts to save money.
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July 19, 2013 3:44:30 PM

Price difference isn't even that big.
4670k - $240
MSI Z87-G45 - $155

3570k - $220
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 - $140

4670k + MSI G45 combo at newegg gets you $30 off, so they are about the same price.
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July 19, 2013 3:51:59 PM

realchaos said:
Price difference isn't even that big.
4670k - $240
MSI Z87-G45 - $155

3570k - $220
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 - $140

4670k + MSI G45 combo at newegg gets you $30 off, so they are about the same price.


That's fine you will always be able to match prices but he doesn't have to go for the newest stuff, if he is happy that the last generation cpu will be enough for him then he should get that, my main problem is you telling him that the last generation is dead when it isn't if he is unsure of his build then he might not build it now because of what you said when it is a perfectly good build. At the end of the day any computer is down to preference and demand.
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July 19, 2013 3:53:37 PM

It is dead. Haswell is just a little bit more expensive, but you get the newer tech, a socket that will be used by Intel's next gen "Broadwell" and some slight improvements. Getting the 3570k is just not worth it now.
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July 19, 2013 3:58:30 PM

realchaos said:
It is dead. Haswell is just a little bit more expensive, but you get the newer tech, a socket that will be used by Intel's next gen "Broadwell" and some slight improvements. Getting the 3570k is just not worth it now.


As i said before it is all down to demands, if he doesn't need the extra performance then he doesn't necessarily need to get the new gen stuff because the money saved (even if only a small amount) could be spent on getting a better component (gpu) or adding a different component (sound card) or just even to go in his back pocket.
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July 19, 2013 4:01:11 PM

The difference is only $5. What can he upgrade with $5? Or grab a $5 sound card that will be worse than the built in audio?
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July 19, 2013 4:03:25 PM

realchaos said:
The difference is only $5. What can he upgrade with $5? Or grab a $5 sound card that will be worse than the built in audio?


You just picked 2 motherboards. Those motherboards may have some features he doesn't need or may not have features he needs so you cant pick them both. He may be able to save money or may not. My only point is that you say there is definitely no point getting the 3570K when that is not entirely true.
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July 19, 2013 4:16:06 PM

You're arguing that the 3570k is still a viable option because of preferences.
I'm not sure who would prefer an older and slightly weaker cpu and an extra $5-10 over a slightly improved and newer cpu.
Oh yeah, you're right on the motherboard. The ASRock Z77 Extreme4 has an incredibly thin PCB and feels poor-built since it bends so easily while the MSI doesn't have a fragile pcb.
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July 19, 2013 4:28:47 PM

Thank for the answers guys!

- I bought the monitor for $150. And also your monitor is not an IPS, and that's what I was looking for. But thanks for the suggestion!

- What about this cooler? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- What is the difference between the Socket LGA 1155 and the 1150?

- I plan on picking up a big HDD when I have the money, but I wanted to put the OS and some games on the SSD.
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July 19, 2013 4:34:25 PM

The Hyper 212 EVO is a great option, it gives phenomenal performance for its price.

Socket LGA 1155 supports Ivy Bridge and Sandy bridge (older) processors while Socket LGA 1150 supports Haswell and the future Broadwell processors.
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July 19, 2013 6:14:52 PM

So what's the new cpu change?

Could I get the new mobo but the old cpu?
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July 19, 2013 6:19:00 PM

Basically the difference from Ivy Bridge to Haswell are only minor changes. Haswell saves more energy (great for laptops, not much for pc) and it produces more heat, requiring a better cpu cooler to overclock. Those are the main differences.

Socket LGA 1155 is not backwards compatible with any Ivy Bridge processors (i5-3570k, i7-3770k, i3-3220) so you can not put an i5-3570k with a Z87 chipset motherboard.
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July 19, 2013 6:43:24 PM

If it takes a better cooler, and heats up faster I'll probably just stick with the 3570 and the LGA1155.

I'm not planing upgrading any time soon. And it look like this rig will run next gen's stuff pretty well (I don't need everything maxed out). Thank for warning me though!
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July 19, 2013 7:07:44 PM

Rushrage

I myself find nothing wrong with your picks, I still have more people wanting the 3570K than want the 4670K, price is a part of it, for the difference in effect you be throwing in a nice CPU cooler (Hyper 212 EVO) for free, also for the slight performance increase of the 4670K it more than likely can be offset by the higher OC capabilities of the 3570K (the 4670K runs hotter and doesn't OC as well in general as the 3570K)....As far as the 1155 being a dead socket, for all intents and purposes, yes........but..........as stated here by realchaos, the 1150 will be an upgrade path to the next gen of CPUs which will be Broadwell....but then comes THE REAL QUESTION.......WILL IT REALLY?????
I think not, Broadwell (Desktop) has already been slipped to (early/mid 2015)....so by the time it get's here the current 1150 mobos will already be being replaced by hybrid DDR3/DDR4 1150 mobos (if not just plain out DDR4 1150 mobos....so, will people want to buy a brand new expensive CPU (Broadwell) and run it on an antiquated mobo running an old chipset and old DDR3 DRAM...I myself think not and as an example would point to the 1155 mobos, Sandy Bridge came first (P67) and soon followed by the Z68 mobos), and then came the Ivy Bridge CPUs and the associated Z77 chipset mobos in 1155...how may bought Ivy Bridge CPUs like the 3570K and kept and used the older P67/Z68 mobos.....extremely few....the same will happen with Broadwell and prob even moreso as DDR4 will be there also
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