No video output from GPU at first but then works later?

RoosterHornsy

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Specs:

-Intel i5 3570k @ 3.4ghz (not overclocked), Noctua cooler.
-Asrock z77 Extreme 6, BIOS version P2.70 (LATEST as of 20th July 2013)
-ASUS GeForce GTX 670 DirectCU II OC 2GB
-G.Skill F3-14900CL9Q-16GBXL 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3
-WD black 1TB HDD 7200.rpm (Purchased 2011)
-Antec True Power 750W PSU (Purchased 2009)

Setup as above, turn on PC with DVI-D cable plugged into GPU and the screen displays nothing. Use an old VGA cable and plug it into the screen and then into the motherboard and Windows has loaded and is at the log in screen by this stage in a very low resolution ( My screens' native resolution is:1920x1080 but the resolution displayed is much lower).
I restart the PC (with the VGA cable plugged in) and open BIOS and in the System Browser the interactive display says there is nothing in the PCIE2 slot where I have placed the GPU.
I then exit the BIOS and log into windows and leave the PC for 20 to 30 minutes. Come back and shut down the PC entirely then turn it on again this time with the DVI-D cable plugged into the GPU and no VGA cable and the screen is still blank unless I hit F2 to go into the BIOS at which point the screen registers video output from the GPU and displays the BIOS.
I can then exit the BIOS and log into windows and everything works as it should. However when I shut down the PC and leave it for more than 5 hours and come back to turn it on I have the same problem and have to go about the above method to get the PC to work properly.
I have a 750W PSU which is 4 years old that I have tested with a PSU tester and the BIOS displays the power output to be within range. My hard disk drive has been tested by Data Lifeguard Diagnostic for Windows which says my HDD is fine. I have slotted my GPU into another PC and it has worked fine.
I've been trying to figure this problem out for several months now and I'm not sure if it's the motherboards PCIE2 slot that is randomly functioning and then not functioning or if it is a software issue. I have also tried plugging the GPU into another PCIE slot and I still have the same problem. I have even 'ghetto'ed' a piece of plastic to prop up the GPU so the cooler doesn't pull it down at one end but that doesn't seem to be the problem either.
Yes, I have the cables plugged in properly and the GPU and all other components are all powered properly as the PC will work after waiting 20 minutes an the turning off and on and entering the BIOS. I just don't understand why I have to start the PC this way. I have also done several reinstalls of windows to no avail.

Summary: plugging my screen into GPU with DVI-D doesn't work at first but windows is loading and I can see this with a VGA cable plugged into the mobo, after leaving windows logged in and doing nothing for 20 minutes I then shut down my PC and turn it on again and with the DVI-D cable plugged into the GPU I hit F2 to go into the BIOS which switches the screen to the GPU output.

Any help would be much appreciated as I have already sent the mobo and GPU back to the store and the mobo was then sent back to Taiwan to be tested and they both came back after 3 months (.......). I have been banging my head against the wall for almost 4 months now as to what this problem is and any help would be much appreciated. Thank you for your time.

Rooster.
 
Solution
Make sure the video card in the video slot closest to the CPU. Motherboards with built in gpu will post to the ipgpu unless you go into the bios and set primary display to peg...or pci. And turn off multi monitor support. Also make sure MVP from lucientlogic is not installed. It tries to bond the ipgpu with the gpu and is know to be buggy. With new install of windows make sure the newest intel chipset drivers is installed then the video card driver.
Make sure the video card in the video slot closest to the CPU. Motherboards with built in gpu will post to the ipgpu unless you go into the bios and set primary display to peg...or pci. And turn off multi monitor support. Also make sure MVP from lucientlogic is not installed. It tries to bond the ipgpu with the gpu and is know to be buggy. With new install of windows make sure the newest intel chipset drivers is installed then the video card driver.
 
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RoosterHornsy

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Yes GPU is in 16x slot closest to CPU, in BIOS under North Bridge i has set primary grpahics adapter to PCI express and have turned off multi monitor. Never heard of MVP from Lucientlogic and I can't seem to find them on google, but its in the downloads section for my mobo and I didnt install it at any point and I do believe I've been installing the gpu driver first and then the intel drivers didn't realise that could be causing a problem. What kind of issues can that cause?
 

RoosterHornsy

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kk, I have three options: Onboard, PCI and PCI express and I have tried all 3 about 2 weeks ago as I was trying to figure out how to disable the onboard video as I thought that that might be the problem, yet to my disappointment none worked. The trouble is once I get the PC working through the GPU as above then if I turn the PC off and wait 10 minutes or an hour it'll work through the GPU but if I wait longer say leave it overnight and come back to it then despite changing the source like you have proposed I have to use a VGA cable to log into windows. Its a really strange problem as I can't test a solution instantly as I have to wait overnight or 3-5 hours. This is what made me think its the PSU because it's 4 years old and hence i've just been considering getting a new one but that's no solid solution to what teh frig is causing this.
 
To Turn off onboard under primay display line should be one for muilty monitor support. That has to be disabled to turn off onboard video.
For the bios reset I wonder if you have a bad CMOS battery or it lose.
The CMOS battery not the power supply holds my settings when off.
The power supply if old or weak or older atx rev would cause issues at power on.
 

RoosterHornsy

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Yea multi monitor is disabled. I have done 3-4 CMOS resets with the nifty button on the back of the mobo but I do know people actually take the battery out. If the button on the back is working would that mean the battery has power and what could have drained it so that I'm constantly loosing my settings after a 5 hour-ish time period. My main worry with the PSU was that one of the 6-8 pin cords for the gpu was faulty but I tried a bypass with a spare cord plugged into the extra plug port on teh modular psu and it didn't seem to solve anything then again I can get the PC to work using the method in the OP so it shouldn't be the PSU, just me wishing it was.

Update: 21/07/13 - Checked that I had multi monitor disabled in the BIOS and turned PC off. I waited overnight and turning PC on I still have no output when connected to the GPU. I then plug the VGA cord into the mobo and (after hitting F2 before) I can see the BIOS and the options are all the same with multi monitor disabled. Any Ideas?
 

RoosterHornsy

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In my searching over the webs I have found several other forums describing this problem. Probably the most relevant one is this one

http://forums.tweaktown.com/asrock/49164-asrock-z77-extreme-6-doesnt-detect-my-sapphire-hd-7850-gpu.html

In it the users describe my problem right down to the PC working but when you turn it off and leave it for several hours and come back to turn it on, the GPU is not detected. Some of the users have changed the PCIE2 link speed in the BIOS for the Asrock extreme 6 to gen1 to get their PC's to start. This is only to get the PC to start and they then switch it back to AUTO. Over the last couple of months of searching on the internet the common factor in my search results that relates to the problem has been Asrock extreme 4 and 6 motherboards. There seems to be some compatibility issue with the Asrock boards thats causing them to become defective in some way and unable to detect the GPU upon startup. I have sent a request directly to Asrock asking for assistance and will post back with any results. Interestingly the last comment on the above thread provides good evidence that Asrock know about this problem and are attempting to assist affected users only if they PM their representatives directly in order to 'contain' the negative posts.
 

nychick

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Was this ever solved?
My motherboard was good until now and have the EXACT issue Asrock Z77 Extreme 6 with AMD Radeon 5800 and it just won't detect my GPU. A trick I learned was to press F2 and go into BIOS, then exit out of BIOS menu and Windows would boot normally with graphics.