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July 20, 2013 7:17:33 PM

I just bought an HP envy touchsmart 15 quad edition. It comes with 24gb HDD acceleration cache, which is really a 24gb mssd. I was going to upgrade this to 128gb and use it as the boot drive. Only issue is I read on another forum that mssd take up a channel of memory, and would make the computer slow. Is this true, or would my computer run fine? Thanks!

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July 20, 2013 7:54:40 PM

your best choice is to replace the 2.5 drive with a 256g or 512G Samsung 840 pro (the pro is important) and cancel the caching all together. by removing it.

and be careful , you will need to back up your windows8 recovery partition.

use the 2.5 inch drive in USB3 enclosure.

msata SSD are a waste of money , they are double the price of the SSD for half the speed they offer.
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July 21, 2013 8:45:22 AM

I'm getting a decent deal on the 128gb mssd. Ignoring money, would I get a significant performance boost by booting from it?
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July 21, 2013 9:59:06 AM

kr0490 said:
I'm getting a decent deal on the 128gb mssd. Ignoring money, would I get a significant performance boost by booting from it?


you need to check if that msata is sata 2 or sata 3 , if sata 2 , it will cap at 300M/s , most ssd today work at 500m/s.

and 128G SSF are slow , 256G ssd are double the speed of 128 SSD in general.

and if you want the fastest msata around , pick the Samsumg 840 msata , I don't know if they released Samsung 840 pro yet or not . the fastest msata around is the 840 , and avoid the 830 and avoid the sandforce chipset SSD.

check your msata port type on the notebook , SATA2 or SATA3.

and here is the Samsung msata model : Samsung PM841
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July 21, 2013 10:35:00 AM

Is there an easy way to determine whether it is data 2 or 3, I can't find any documentation stating which it is. Someone mentioned you might be able to find out through the Intel rapid start software that is installed, but they didn't specify where it would say. Thanks!
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July 21, 2013 6:47:06 PM

Is there an easy way to determine whether it is data 2 or 3, I can't find any documentation stating which it is. Someone mentioned you might be able to find out through the Intel rapid start software that is installed, but they didn't specify where it would say. Thanks!
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July 21, 2013 7:04:05 PM

kr0490 said:
Is there an easy way to determine whether it is data 2 or 3, I can't find any documentation stating which it is. Someone mentioned you might be able to find out through the Intel rapid start software that is installed, but they didn't specify where it would say. Thanks!


give me the exact model number please , not just the series.
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July 21, 2013 7:18:31 PM

i determined mine is sata 3, 6gb/s. the msata you recommended is to expensive. the 128gb one i was looking at from crucial is just around $100 dollars, which is what i would like to spend. Are there any in this price range you can recommend?
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July 21, 2013 7:28:57 PM

kr0490 said:
i determined mine is sata 3, 6gb/s. the msata you recommended is to expensive. the 128gb one i was looking at from crucial is just around $100 dollars, which is what i would like to spend. Are there any in this price range you can recommend?


yea the 120 G Samsung 840 msata...

the 256G is faster yes , but even the 120G is faster than the Crucial. btw which crucial are you looking at?
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July 21, 2013 7:45:52 PM

Comparison :

1- Samsung SSD PM841 Series 128GB, mSATA 6Gb/s (MZMTD128HAFV)

Read: 540MB/s • Write: 330MB/s • Random 4K Read: 98000IOPS • Random 4K Write: 65000IOPS • Cache: not specified • Connector: mSATA 6Gb/s • Power consumption: 3.44W (operation), 0.005W (idle) • NAND type: MLC Toggle (20nm) • MTBF: 1.5 Mio. hours • Controller: Samsung MDX • Dimensions: 50.95x30x3.8mm • Special features: 256bit AES encryption • Warranty: not specified

2- Crucial m4 SSD 128GB, mSATA 6Gb/s (CT128M4SSD3) :

Read: 500MB/s • Write: 175MB/s • Random 4K Read: 45000IOPS • Random 4K Write: 35000IOPS • Cache: 128MB • Connector: mSATA 6Gb/s • Power consumption: not specified (operation), not specified (idle) • NAND type: MLC synchronous (25nm) • MTBF: 1.2 Mio. hours • Controller: Marvell 88SS9174-BLD2 • Dimensions: 50.95x30x4mm • Special features: not specified • Warranty: three years

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July 21, 2013 7:57:09 PM

can you recommend any others, or know any places that would have the one you suggested, as the website in the link has them on backorder, and i need it in the next week or two. i would prefer to buy one from amazon. Thanks, i appreciate all your help!
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July 21, 2013 7:57:11 PM

can you recommend any others, or know any places that would have the one you suggested, as the website in the link has them on backorder, and i need it in the next week or two. i would prefer to buy one from amazon. Thanks, i appreciate all your help!
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July 21, 2013 8:00:49 PM

kr0490 said:
can you recommend any others, or know any places that would have the one you suggested, as the website in the link has them on backorder, and i need it in the next week or two. i would prefer to buy one from amazon. Thanks, i appreciate all your help!


where do you live ?

The Samsung PM841 is the fastest msata in the market today.. I will try to find it.
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July 21, 2013 8:05:06 PM

in ohio, thanks!
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July 21, 2013 8:19:21 PM

thanks you! do you know how to make the mssd accessible as storage, i already disabled acceleration.
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July 21, 2013 8:29:17 PM

kr0490 said:
thanks you! do you know how to make the mssd accessible as storage, i already disabled acceleration.


Go to Control Panel then
Administrative Tools then Disk Management

and see if you can find it listed there ..

right click on it and see if there is an option to make it a normal disk.

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July 21, 2013 9:01:27 PM

here is what disk management looks like, i don't see it showing up. Any ideas?



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July 21, 2013 11:58:03 PM

kr0490 said:
heres the link, sorry

http://imgur.com/tOLyFrX


Obviously it is disk one but 4.77G ?? maybe not all space allocated

Disk 0 is the 1 Tera one .. partitioned for windows system reserved space , EFI AND your partition , plus the Windows recovery partition ,

I cant tell you from here it is risky .. but th msata is Disk one ... that 4.7G partition on it could be for fast booting , and the caching are not allocated the rest of it . try to boot from windows DVD disk , and see the msata and allocate th unallocated space it will appear.

Edit : Right click on the 4.77 Disk 1 Partition and make it appear..
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July 22, 2013 7:23:14 AM

I don't have an installation disk, as my computer has no disk drive. In disk management, if I right click on disk one an click delete volume, will it maybe clear the partition and show the full size?
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July 22, 2013 7:40:11 AM

I figured it out. I has to click reset to available in the Intel rapid storage application, now its all visible
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July 22, 2013 10:32:56 AM

kr0490 said:
I figured it out. I has to click reset to available in the Intel rapid storage application, now its all visible


:)  great !!!

be sure to back up the windows recovery partition on your 1 tera harddisk . this is the ONLY windows system you have ...

and try to get that 256G 840 pro :)  for $199 , its only 80$ more and when the 128 gets full you will regret it and say ... I wish :) 
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