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Ivy Bridge, better bang for the buck?

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July 21, 2013 8:57:56 AM

So hello guys, I have been waiting for Haswell to arrive in my country for over 2 months, and when it finally arrived, it was so much more expensive. So i'm thinking i should get Ivy Bridge, because it's cheaper by over 70 euros, and the motherboards are also cheaper by about 50 euros. So, it's more than 100 euros cheaper. Is Haswell worth 100 euros more?

Oh and, I can also get 4570 for cheaper than the 3570k, but I am kinda interested in overclocking.

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July 21, 2013 9:00:13 AM

Tom's hardware recommends the 3570k over the 4670k still and the 3770k over the 4770k still as well. So, to answer your question more directly...yes, IB is a much better buy than "hasfail".
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July 21, 2013 9:02:28 AM

8350rocks said:
Tom's hardware recommends the 3570k over the 4670k still and the 3770k over the 4770k still as well. So, to answer your question more directly...yes, IB is a much better buy than "hasfail".


Oh wow, really? Why do I hear that Haswell is 10% more performant?
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July 21, 2013 9:07:53 AM

That's the hype...

Look @ Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haswell_(microarchitecture)

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Performance[edit]

Compared to Ivy Bridge:
Approximately 8% better vector processing performance.[8]
6% IPC (instructions per clock) increase.
up to 6% faster single-threaded performance.
6% faster multi-threaded performance.
Haswell is around 10°C-15°C hotter than Ivy Bridge when overclocked and does not seem to break the 4.4-4.5 GHz mark nearly as easily.
Haswell draws around 30 W more under load than Ivy Bridge.[9][10]
A 6% increase in sequential CPU performance (eight execution ports per core versus six).[11][12]
Up to 20% performance increase over the integrated HD4000 GPU (Haswell HD4600 vs Ivy Bridge's built-in Intel HD4000).[13][14]
Total performance improvement on average is about 3% [15]
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July 21, 2013 9:25:01 AM

The arguments for IB over Haswell can be applied to SB over IB as well.... SB overclocked way better than IB and yes, IB overclocks better than Haswell....given each new generation's stock performance advantage, once overclocked, there isn't a helluva lotta difference between all 3 when all is said and done.

looking at standard pricing and performance, I have to give a slight nod to to IB...... however, there are some astounding MoBo / CPU deals on both IB and Haswell so it may well depend on when ya buy and what deal ya get. But there's one thing swaying me to Haswell and that's the socket. Every new PC build sets you immediately on the road to obsolescence, but an IB build to day, puts ya quite a bit further down the road.....1155 is dead / kaput / end of life.

I had this hammered home twice in the last two weeks doing a pair of MoBo replacements on 1156 builds that peeps "upgraded". Both MoBos failed after installation of Hyper 212's .... one I could observe damage where the mounting bracket cut into the board ... the other I'm not sure what happened. End result tho..... instead of a simple MoBo swap ..... I had to replace both MoBo and CPU..... no 1156 MoBos available...... and then reinstall OS followed by hours of Windows Update. The CPU replacement due to the incompatible socket tripled the cost of the fix.

So given the miniscule difference in system cost between the two, I'd go with the new socket.
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July 21, 2013 9:28:36 AM

JackNaylorPE said:
The arguments for IB over Haswell can be applied to SB over IB as well.... SB overclocked way better than IB and yes, IB overclocks better than Haswell....given each new generation's stock performance advantage, once overclocked, there isn't a helluva lotta difference between all 3 when all is said and done.

looking at standard pricing and performance, I have to give a slight nod to to IB...... however, there are some astounding MoBo / CPU deals on both IB and Haswell so it may well depend on when ya buy and what deal ya get. But there's one thing swaying me to Haswell and that's the socket. Every new PC build sets you immediately on the road to obsolescence, but an IB build to day, puts ya quite a bit further down the road.....1155 is dead / kaput / end of life.

I had this hammered home twice in the last two weeks doing a pair of MoBo replacements on 1156 builds that peeps "upgraded". Both MoBos failed after installation of Hyper 212's .... one I could observe damage where the mounting bracket cut into the board ... the other I'm not sure what happened. End result tho..... instead of a simple MoBo swap ..... I had to replace both MoBo and CPU..... no 1156 MoBos available...... and then reinstall OS followed by hours of Windows Update. The CPU replacement due to the incompatible socket tripled the cost of the fix.

So given the miniscule difference in system cost between the two, I'd go with the new socket.


Surely the road to obsolescence is almost as long as the Haswell, right? If the performance is different by 3%, then games will work very similarly on one another, and the GPU would play a bigger role, right?
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July 21, 2013 9:33:03 AM

Yes, the GPU would make a much bigger difference.
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