Need a good System for autocad 2013

ryan24k7 · Jul 22, 2013

Hi I need help on building a budget autocad/good for gaming pc for my uncle.

I guess he could go to only $350 at the moment. but he wants it to be easily up-gradable for the future.

He plans to use it for designing 3d houses and buildings. and playing some games.

angaddev · Jul 22, 2013

$350 is really, really low. Especially when you need a good cpu for autocad, but if you buy some stuff used you can get this

Phenom ii x4 955
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Phenom-II-X4-955-3-2-GHz-Quad-Core-HDZ955FBK4DGM-Processor-/151080001778?pt=CPUs&hash=item232d11e0f2
$93
Asus motherboard
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-M5A97-LE-R2-0-AM3-AMD-970-SATA-6Gb-s-USB-3-0-ATX-AMD-Motherboard-/181169867060?pt=Motherboards&hash=item2a2e90c934
$60
4GB RAM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kingston-4GB-2-x-2GB-DIMM-1333-MHz-DDR3-Desktop-RAM-/321169607290?pt=US_Memory_RAM_&hash=item4ac7334a7a
$20
1tb Caviar blue HDD
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Western-Digital-Caviar-Blue-WD10EZEX-1TB-SATA3-7200RPM-64MB-Hard-Drive-/380453089995?pt=US_Internal_Hard_Disk_Drives&hash=item5894c572cb
$68.89
7770
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-XFX-Radeon-HD-7770-HD7770-1GB-DDR5-Video-Card-FX-777A-ZNBR-/261244223417?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item3cd35e7fb9
$74.50
CX600 PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028
$70

ryan24k7 · Jul 23, 2013

yeah that much i know, he just needs to add some more.. maybe around 400 to 450?

electricfirebolt · Jul 23, 2013

I would not go for a card like the HD 7770, you'd be better going for a proper horsepower workstation card.

ryan24k7 · Jul 23, 2013

I guess what I want to say is that something that can start cheap and be easily up-gradable down the line when he has some money.
Here is his situation...

He currently can go up to maybe $400...
He just recently started to learn autocad, we wants a computer to test some 3d autocad in maybe like a small house, so he can present it to his clients.. And down the line upgrade the computer.
So I was thinking, what about just using the onboard graphics for the meantime? So later he could just add a video card when he needs to?

angaddev · Jul 23, 2013

You don't need a hardcore workstation card. The cheapest decent ones run ~$1k anyway. With AutoCAD any decent graphics card will perform as well as the ws cards
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-workstation-graphics-card,3493-6.html
As you can see here the 2 generation old 580 completely destroys all of the workstation cards.

Get this GPU instead of the 7770 if you're raising your budget
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-570-N570GTX-TWIN-FROZR-II-OC-1-25-GB-GDDR5-SDRAM-PCI-/261249292200?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item3cd3abd7a8

Phenom ii x4 955
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Phenom-II-X4-955-3-2-GHz-Quad-Core-HDZ955FBK4DGM-Processor-/151080001778?pt=CPUs&hash=item232d11e0f2
$93
Asus motherboard
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-M5A97-LE-R2-0-AM3-AMD-970-SATA-6Gb-s-USB-3-0-ATX-AMD-Motherboard-/181169867060?pt=Motherboards&hash=item2a2e90c934
$60
4GB RAM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kingston-4GB-2-x-2GB-DIMM-1333-MHz-DDR3-Desktop-RAM-/321169607290?pt=US_Memory_RAM_&hash=item4ac7334a7a
$20
1tb Caviar blue HDD
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Western-Digital-Caviar-Blue-WD10EZEX-1TB-SATA3-7200RPM-64MB-Hard-Drive-/380453089995?pt=US_Internal_Hard_Disk_Drives&hash=item5894c572cb
$68.89
CX600 PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028
$70

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-570-N570GTX-TWIN-FROZR-II-OC-1-25-GB-GDDR5-SDRAM-PCI-/261249292200?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item3cd3abd7a8

electricfirebolt · Jul 23, 2013

angaddev :

You don't need a hardcore workstation card. The cheapest decent ones run ~$1k anyway. With AutoCAD any decent graphics card will perform as well as the ws cards
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-workstation-graphics-card,3493-6.html
As you can see here the 2 generation old 580 completely destroys all of the workstation cards.

Get this GPU instead of the 7770 if you're raising your budget
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-570-N570GTX-TWIN-FROZR-II-OC-1-25-GB-GDDR5-SDRAM-PCI-/261249292200?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item3cd3abd7a8

Phenom ii x4 955
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Phenom-II-X4-955-3-2-GHz-Quad-Core-HDZ955FBK4DGM-Processor-/151080001778?pt=CPUs&hash=item232d11e0f2
$93
Asus motherboard
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-M5A97-LE-R2-0-AM3-AMD-970-SATA-6Gb-s-USB-3-0-ATX-AMD-Motherboard-/181169867060?pt=Motherboards&hash=item2a2e90c934
$60
4GB RAM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kingston-4GB-2-x-2GB-DIMM-1333-MHz-DDR3-Desktop-RAM-/321169607290?pt=US_Memory_RAM_&hash=item4ac7334a7a
$20
1tb Caviar blue HDD
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Western-Digital-Caviar-Blue-WD10EZEX-1TB-SATA3-7200RPM-64MB-Hard-Drive-/380453089995?pt=US_Internal_Hard_Disk_Drives&hash=item5894c572cb
$68.89
CX600 PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028
$70

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-570-N570GTX-TWIN-FROZR-II-OC-1-25-GB-GDDR5-SDRAM-PCI-/261249292200?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item3cd3abd7a8

You will find that workstation cards destroy normal graphics cards in accuracy, rendering and quality in pretty much all CAD and design software. It depends if his Uncle is favours quality, precision, faster rendering over the the bad quality and fast 3D viewing offered by the gaming cards.

ryan24k7 · Aug 1, 2013

how about built in video for the mean time... and add a vid card in the coming months?

iskra · Aug 10, 2013

Yes go with builtin since autocad can't really use videocard for anything except preview window redraw.
Buy quality PSU (I say Seasonic) but don't overdo with wattage.

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