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July 22, 2013 4:16:59 PM

Thinking of building a computer for the first time in a few weeks and I'm unsure about a few things.
The build of the computer will be along the lines of

AMD fx 8320 - 3.5 GHz 8 core
Radeon HD 7770 - 1Gb 640 cores
MSI 970A - G43
Cit Black ops ATX case with 500w PSU
8Gb RAM
500Gb 7200 Rpm Hard drive (will get 128Gb solid state soon after)
BluRay Reader/Writer

1) Are the CPU + GPU good enough for gaming?
2) will the PSU + mobo + Hard drive come with all the wires etc or will i need them separate?
3) I'm not planning on over clocking so will i need any extra fans?
4) Will the mobo come with an operating system already on it? as im thinking of waiting a few weeks before putting Windows 7/8 on it
5) If i install windows 7/8 on my 500Gb hard drive, will i then be able to later move the operating system onto my solid state for a quicker boot up?

I knows theres alot of questions but thanks in advance

Also do you have any suggestions as to what i could change to improve it?

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July 22, 2013 5:38:59 PM

dwhalley95 said:
Thinking of building a computer for the first time in a few weeks and I'm unsure about a few things.
The build of the computer will be along the lines of

AMD fx 8320 - 3.5 GHz 8 core
Radeon HD 7770 - 1Gb 640 cores
MSI 970A - G43
Cit Black ops ATX case with 500w PSU
8Gb RAM
500Gb 7200 Rpm Hard drive (will get 128Gb solid state soon after)
BluRay Reader/Writer

1) Are the CPU + GPU good enough for gaming?
2) will the PSU + mobo + Hard drive come with all the wires etc or will i need them separate?
3) I'm not planning on over clocking so will i need any extra fans?
4) Will the mobo come with an operating system already on it? as im thinking of waiting a few weeks before putting Windows 7/8 on it
5) If i install windows 7/8 on my 500Gb hard drive, will i then be able to later move the operating system onto my solid state for a quicker boot up?

I knows theres alot of questions but thanks in advance

Also do you have any suggestions as to what i could change to improve it?


1- NO the 7770 is low card , tell us your budget for this.
2- yes they will come with the wires needed , unless you are adding more than 4 harddisks or so.
3- depends on your case. how many fans are in your case ?
4- no , you will need to buy the system ,
5- you should install your system directly on your SSD. you can do an image backup of the system from the 500G then clone it to the SSD , but if you are a novice , it will be complicated for you.

tell me please how much you want to pay .. your setup is poor for gaming.
July 22, 2013 6:01:27 PM

SNA3 said:
dwhalley95 said:
Thinking of building a computer for the first time in a few weeks and I'm unsure about a few things.
The build of the computer will be along the lines of

AMD fx 8320 - 3.5 GHz 8 core
Radeon HD 7770 - 1Gb 640 cores
MSI 970A - G43
Cit Black ops ATX case with 500w PSU
8Gb RAM
500Gb 7200 Rpm Hard drive (will get 128Gb solid state soon after)
BluRay Reader/Writer

1) Are the CPU + GPU good enough for gaming?
2) will the PSU + mobo + Hard drive come with all the wires etc or will i need them separate?
3) I'm not planning on over clocking so will i need any extra fans?
4) Will the mobo come with an operating system already on it? as im thinking of waiting a few weeks before putting Windows 7/8 on it
5) If i install windows 7/8 on my 500Gb hard drive, will i then be able to later move the operating system onto my solid state for a quicker boot up?

I knows theres alot of questions but thanks in advance

Also do you have any suggestions as to what i could change to improve it?


1- NO the 7770 is low card , tell us your budget for this.
2- yes they will come with the wires needed , unless you are adding more than 4 harddisks or so.
3- depends on your case. how many fans are in your case ?
4- no , you will need to buy the system ,
5- you should install your system directly on your SSD. you can do an image backup of the system from the 500G then clone it to the SSD , but if you are a novice , it will be complicated for you.

tell me please how much you want to pay .. your setup is poor for gaming.



hi, thanks for your reply the case only has 1 80mm fan and my budget is £500 - £550
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July 22, 2013 6:32:00 PM
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dwhalley95 said:
SNA3 said:
dwhalley95 said:
Thinking of building a computer for the first time in a few weeks and I'm unsure about a few things.
The build of the computer will be along the lines of

AMD fx 8320 - 3.5 GHz 8 core
Radeon HD 7770 - 1Gb 640 cores
MSI 970A - G43
Cit Black ops ATX case with 500w PSU
8Gb RAM
500Gb 7200 Rpm Hard drive (will get 128Gb solid state soon after)
BluRay Reader/Writer

1) Are the CPU + GPU good enough for gaming?
2) will the PSU + mobo + Hard drive come with all the wires etc or will i need them separate?
3) I'm not planning on over clocking so will i need any extra fans?
4) Will the mobo come with an operating system already on it? as im thinking of waiting a few weeks before putting Windows 7/8 on it
5) If i install windows 7/8 on my 500Gb hard drive, will i then be able to later move the operating system onto my solid state for a quicker boot up?

I knows theres alot of questions but thanks in advance

Also do you have any suggestions as to what i could change to improve it?


1- NO the 7770 is low card , tell us your budget for this.
2- yes they will come with the wires needed , unless you are adding more than 4 harddisks or so.
3- depends on your case. how many fans are in your case ?
4- no , you will need to buy the system ,
5- you should install your system directly on your SSD. you can do an image backup of the system from the 500G then clone it to the SSD , but if you are a novice , it will be complicated for you.

tell me please how much you want to pay .. your setup is poor for gaming.



hi, thanks for your reply the case only has 1 80mm fan and my budget is £500 - £550


ok , listen to me carefully :) 

I made you a super very High gaming machine , on some sacrifice that you can later ADD .. the Idea here that the things you can add later , you dont get , and the things that you will be stuck with , you get from the beginning.

so here is what I did ,

instead of 8G ram I put 4G ram , Dont worry u can add 8 g ram or even 16 later when u have money its cheap.

I replaced the Bluray writer with a DVD writer , AGAIN the case can take 3 places of opticals , LATER add Blue ray , dont loose better pc for that.

now here is the GAMING machine with GTX 760 for you :) 

and it is for 595 punds ... if you can do it DO IT , if NOT I will squeeze it , but this is my professional advice :) 

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/sna/saved/212z

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£146.97 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£81.44 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£24.13 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.95 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£196.13 @ Dabs)
Case: Zalman Z11 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.97 @ Dabs)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£43.80 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£13.12 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £595.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-23 02:28 BST+0100)

and here is how your pc will look like :) 



July 23, 2013 4:54:49 AM

Ahh I see, is the intel i5 better than the 8320? The 8320 has 8 cores and runs at 3.5 Ghz how does that work? And I might use a budget value case to begin with and then upgrade it at a later date.. thanks for your suggestions ill take them ? Into consideration
July 23, 2013 4:54:50 AM

Ahh I see, is the intel i5 better than the 8320? The 8320 has 8 cores and runs at 3.5 Ghz how does that work? And I might use a budget value case to begin with and then upgrade it at a later date.. thanks for your suggestions ill take them ? Into consideration
July 23, 2013 5:12:57 AM

dwhalley95 said:
Ahh I see, is the intel i5 better than the 8320? The 8320 has 8 cores and runs at 3.5 Ghz how does that work? And I might use a budget value case to begin with and then upgrade it at a later date.. thanks for your suggestions ill take them ? Into consideration


The FX 8320 is not 8 Core it is Quad Core with four virtual cores. Its an decent CPU if you are in the need for a gaming rig build that is not tough on your pocket yet gives enough power to play games, If I was you and if you are set on the FX series then you should downgrade to an FX 6300 or similar and then upgrade your GPU as in gaming it is the GPU that you should be concentrating on. If you have extra money then by all means go Intel but be prepared to a pay a premium in the future if you wish to upgrade for new socket motherboards.
July 23, 2013 9:01:23 AM

dwhalley95 said:
Ahh I see, is the intel i5 better than the 8320? The 8320 has 8 cores and runs at 3.5 Ghz how does that work? And I might use a budget value case to begin with and then upgrade it at a later date.. thanks for your suggestions ill take them ? Into consideration


yes the intel is better.

and the z87 is better as well.

per core Intel is faster than AMD. and Intel has intel quick sync , this encode movies at super fast rate ... and it works at just 84 watts vs 130 watts.

the Z87 motherboard is superior to any AMD motherboard , it has very fast 6x SATA3 with TRIM support in raid , plus extra usb3 and all native at low price , and they are more stable . and the onbopard sound found on the z87 is better than the AMD onboard sound as well for the same price point. and finally the intel has PCIexpress 3.0 support natively in CPU , while AMD does not , and only one motherboard very expensive at 200 pund supports it in non native way. the Z87 also has the capability to switch between onboard graphics in the cpu to render movies while using the dedicated graphic card , because Quick sync is faster, AMD cant do all this.

this machine I gave you is better than any AMD you can buy at the same price point.

Edit: and this IS a budget case .. it is only 49 punds. and has the FANS you need.

!