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Newbie to building gaming PC need advices from the Pro 1500$ Under

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July 22, 2013 5:04:57 PM

Hi,

(Sorry for my English, I usually speak french so excuse me if I made some errors).

I'm looking to change my PC and looking for some advises. My story is this, i never really did a lot of gaming, but now i want to get in it seriously. So the last 2-3 days I have been reading and learning on the subject the most that i can. I learned that you can save A LOT by buying online for one :) . So that why I need you pros to help me out. My budget is 1500$ and here are the specifics :

-System Usage from Most to Least Important: Games, daily internet usage, watching movies (avi, mkv)

-Parts Not Required: OS, HDD, keyboard, mouse, speaker. But if you can include a 1080p 120hz 24inch monitor in the price range that would be FANTASTIC

-Overclocking: I don't know what it is. may try to learn it in the futur

-No SLI needed for me

-I really don't need fancy things like a red case with red glowing lights and the such. I want performance - reability and durability

-Monitor Resolution: looking for 1920x1200

-Additional Comments: My goal is to have a good and stable computer that will last many years, rooms for improvement (add rams, add second video card, etc.) and maybe overclock a little in the future

Here is what I have in mind and what I have no clue. Feel free to correct my choices since I am a newbie in all this.

Motherboard : No idea. I know that I can save on the money since I don't need SLI. I just want the motherboard to be able to support my build at the moment and in the futur (2-3 yars) like my GTX 770. I also want it to be quiet and cooling

Processor : Intel i5 4670 (do I need the K? I know it for overclokc but if I don't do it is the 30$+ on newigg worth it?)

Video Card : GTX 770 2gb gigabyte windforce (the one with 3 fans at 400$ on newiggs seems the best choice right or should I take a bit lower?)

Power Supply : aiming for a 750w don't know which is it too much?

Memory : don't know if I should go for 8gb or 16gb ddr3 1600mhz...also don't know from who

Computer Case : Here I really have 0 clue....I want it too be big (change stuffe in futur and hold what we wil lput atm) cooling (good fans and all) .... and i don'T want to spend money on the flashy

Storage 1 : 120gb ssd 850 serie samsung (there is the pro but it a lot more expensive) or should i go with corsair? Also should i put 258gb in ssd to make it faster?
Storage 2 : something basic i don't really care just for the movies and pictures

DVD writer : don't know a 24x something
System: Windows 7 home prenium


Well that it. Hope you guys can help me out because i am lost here lol.

Any input/suggestion/comment will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!!

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July 22, 2013 6:07:21 PM

Also I was wondering if the 40$ for the4gb gtx 770 gigabyte was worth it for futur-proff?
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July 22, 2013 10:22:41 PM

lorderon said:
Also I was wondering if the 40$ for the4gb gtx 770 gigabyte was worth it for futur-proff?


That won't make something future proof. In short you can never really make any build truly future proof no matter if you're spending $500 or $5000 on a rig. Here is what I would do:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($60.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vector Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($409.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($93.50 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1363.41
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-22 20:03 EDT-0400)
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July 22, 2013 10:49:47 PM

I have a couple builds that may work for you, but a few questions that need answering first. You mentioned you speak French, and English is not your day to day language, where are you purchasing your parts? So we can figure in for tax, shipping, conversion rates, etc. My builds are in USD. Second, what is the most important spec on your monitor? You are going to spend a good chunk of your budget on one that has all the specs that you listed. Also what type of games are you planning on playing? As mentioned in many other threads, some games are more CPU intensive and less GPU intensive, which could mean we could squeeze in savings somewhere else, to allow of nicer peripherals.

Last but not least, if your looking for future use, never, ever skimp on the MoBo!

((Mobo = Motherboard)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Rosewill RCX-Z90-CP 62.5 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.08 @ TigerDirect)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($71.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 220 ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.03 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Cooler Master V700 700W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($80.50 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer GD235HZbid 120Hz 23.6" Monitor ($257.58 @ Newegg)
Total: $1440.11
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-23 02:00 EDT-0400)
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July 23, 2013 5:26:55 AM

Daniel Sassone said:
I have a couple builds that may work for you, but a few questions that need answering first. You mentioned you speak French, and English is not your day to day language, where are you purchasing your parts? So we can figure in for tax, shipping, conversion rates, etc. My builds are in USD. Second, what is the most important spec on your monitor? You are going to spend a good chunk of your budget on one that has all the specs that you listed. Also what type of games are you planning on playing? As mentioned in many other threads, some games are more CPU intensive and less GPU intensive, which could mean we could squeeze in savings somewhere else, to allow of nicer peripherals.

Last but not least, if your looking for future use, never, ever skimp on the MoBo!

((Mobo = Motherboard)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Rosewill RCX-Z90-CP 62.5 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.08 @ TigerDirect)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($71.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 220 ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.03 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Cooler Master V700 700W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($80.50 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer GD235HZbid 120Hz 23.6" Monitor ($257.58 @ Newegg)
Total: $1440.11
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-23 02:00 EDT-0400)


hello daniel and thank for your replys guys. as for youre questions here we go. youre builds in ysd are ok because i am french canadian so i am not using the euro :) .

as for the games i have 3 in mind at the moment rome total war 2 , battlefield 4 and witcher 3. as for the games at the moment battlefied 3 and skyrim are what i want to play. as for the mobo we need a good one got it :) .

for the monitor i know there is a lot of things to check i think that to get the full potentiel of a gtx 770 i need at least a 120hz so that for one. 1080p and 1980x1080 for resolution i guess. as for the reaction time what is good i dont know really. there is this new asus QE that it out 144hz 1ms reaction is that a good choice? it less expensive than tje 120hz at the moment.

as for the ssd am i not better with more? like 250gb? i have read that it makes it faster and more durable.

and thank again all
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July 31, 2013 12:42:36 PM

Well some of this is up to you alone, sir. I find that I run a smaller SSD, and only keep the OS and Games I am currently playing on it (saved money) and used a regular HDD for the mass storage I needed. I don't need the movies and music I have stored at super speed (and 7200 RPM isn't that slow). Additionally, its better, in my opinion, to spend the money on the MoBo, GPU, and CPU. When you have extra you can throw in another hard drive, upgrade monitor's and do everything else, but as above, thats just in my opinion. I personally think that the Asus QE would be a good choice, but I will be honest, that monitors are not my strong suit.

With changes in price point you could very easily sub your graphics card for :
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp43768k...

Which might work better without really increasing your cost over much, in fact you might save a few dollars.


In the end though, remember that you can buy it all at once, or shop around for deals, that are always changing, you won't get a bad shake either way.

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July 31, 2013 12:45:48 PM

Daniel Sassone said:
Well some of this is up to you alone, sir. I find that I run a smaller SSD, and only keep the OS and Games I am currently playing on it (saved money) and used a regular HDD for the mass storage I needed. I don't need the movies and music I have stored at super speed (and 7200 RPM isn't that slow). Additionally, its better, in my opinion, to spend the money on the MoBo, GPU, and CPU. When you have extra you can throw in another hard drive, upgrade monitor's and do everything else, but as above, thats just in my opinion. I personally think that the Asus QE would be a good choice, but I will be honest, that monitors are not my strong suit.

With changes in price point you could very easily sub your graphics card for :
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp43768k...

Which might work better without really increasing your cost over much, in fact you might save a few dollars.

Storage needs vary greatly from person to person. With games ranging anywhere from 6GB to 25GB , a 128GB SSD alone won't get you very far, that's why about 99% of the time a mass storage drive is usually needed.
In the end though, remember that you can buy it all at once, or shop around for deals, that are always changing, you won't get a bad shake either way.



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July 31, 2013 12:57:13 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Daniel Sassone said:
Storage needs vary greatly from person to person. With games ranging anywhere from 6GB to 25GB , a 128GB SSD alone won't get you very far, that's why about 99% of the time a mass storage drive is usually needed.





Truest statement ever made, games get larger, but don't utilize everything they could from the hardware, except for space.
Also you may want to go larger because of the huge about of Direct Distrubtion(downloading) that is out there, especially with expansions and DLC content on the rise.
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July 31, 2013 1:01:45 PM

Daniel Sassone said:
Truest statement ever made, games get larger, but don't utilize everything they could from the hardware, except for space.
Also you may want to go larger because of the huge about of Direct Distrubtion(downloading) that is out there, especially with expansions and DLC content on the rise.


Yeah DLC is everywhere now, and cloud / online distribution like iTunes and Steam have become common place, so large hard drives are becoming more and more of a requirement anymore. Although on my laptop's 1TB hard drive I have about 300GB left and that's with all the music, movies, TV shows, games, etc I have stored on it.
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July 31, 2013 1:14:41 PM

g-unit1111 said:


Yeah DLC is everywhere now, and cloud / online distribution like iTunes and Steam have become common place, so large hard drives are becoming more and more of a requirement anymore. Although on my laptop's 1TB hard drive I have about 300GB left and that's with all the music, movies, TV shows, games, etc I have stored on it.


So do you think that an SSD is still a good thing to have? Or just avail yourself to the fastest mass storage you can fit in your budget?
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