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Stuck between I3,4300,6300 and Phenom

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July 23, 2013 2:04:12 AM

Hey guys,

So I wanted to know which one is the best for only gaming.

FX 4300: €100
Intel Core I3 3220: €104
FX 6300: €104 ( I don't know about this one because I don't think that I need the 6 cores)
Phenom II x4 965BE+Hyper 212: €108 ( because I heard somewhere that the stock fan was crap)


GPU: MSI 7850

Really appreciated if u reply :) 

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July 23, 2013 2:19:59 AM

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July 23, 2013 2:48:14 AM

I think the fx6300 is also the best out of those 4 choices. You should still try to buy an aftermarket fan/heatsink (I recommend the hyper 212 evo) with of the amd choices as you'll definitely want to overclock those to get the most value. If you are not going to overclock at all, go with the intel core i3.
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July 23, 2013 3:07:40 AM

the 6300 and i3 3220 trade blows depending on game along with the 965 but its generally slower than the others. Forget the 4300 all together. The i3 is quite a bit better in some games like starcraft II and skyrim, where the 6300 is starting to catch up in newer games like crysis 3 and more likely future games as they begin to take better use of more cores. If it were me, id take the 6300, due to being slightly more future proof, and you can overclock it. the i3 cant be overclocked. If your not going to overclock, flip a coin, they are both very similar, just depends on the game.
its hard to find reviewers that have both of these cpu's in the same chart, but here's a few that may help
http://www.techspot.com/review/586-amd-fx-8350-fx-6300/...
http://www.techspot.com/review/642-crysis-3-performance...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-3-performanc...

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July 23, 2013 3:11:00 AM
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also at this to your consideration AMD x4 750 @ 85 USD
Toms hardware will made a great review about it shortly :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And i quote :

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...

"I'm still shying away from recommending any dual-core processors. The quad-core Athlon II X4 750K will be the subject of an upcoming performance evaluation by Paul Henningsen, at which point we'll know more about its stock and overclocked capabilities. You can read more about AMD's new Richland core in our launch coverage"



So it all depends on on your budget and mobo, for example , the 750K uses 110 TDP on load, cause it have no IGP, thus an 4+1
power phase will be suffient with no OC, meaning you can cheap out and grab this 50 USD mobo for real without any issues:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sames applies to the I3.

However the

FX 4300: €100
FX 6300: €104 ( I don't know about this one because I don't think that I need the 6 cores)

needs better mobo

Phenom II x4 965BE+Hyper 212: €108 ( because I heard somewhere that the stock fan was crap)

just like you stated you will need Hyper 212, as well as with the fx 6300 or 4300 i reckon the stock cooler can keep the 750K quiet
, note that the labeled 95W 6300 used 40W idle and 160W on load
July 23, 2013 3:51:15 AM

Thanks everyone for giving me lots of information :) 

So I'm scratching the fx 4300 and the I3 because it's a dual core, and I want something that lasts me a few years atleast.
FX6300 with hyper 212 : €134
OR get an athlon II x4 750k with the stock fan for only €72 and save a bit of money.
Any benchmarks from the athlon II x4 750k?
Thanks for helping me out
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July 23, 2013 4:10:43 AM

Here you go :

http://ixbtlabs.com/articles3/cpu/amd-athlon-fm2-p1.htm...
http://www.bitsandchips.it/9-hardware/2409-amd-athlon-x...

Translate the latter to English using Chrome or Google translate.

You will come up to the conclusion that the athlon II x4 750k is truly powerful however the trick it needs a GPU cause its only a CPU without a external GPU, you wont be able to view anything, and i quote :

Phenom II X4 955 slightly outperforms Athlon X4 750K except thread and cache-hungry tasks. However, bear in mind that this Phenom was a top CPU once and you won't argue that FM2 is a prospective budget platform.

Also i reckon grab it the athlon 750 and you wont be dissapointment and instead of saving, use that saved money on better GPU, we all know that the GPU determines heavily in gaming
July 23, 2013 4:16:34 AM

Ok thank you very much, I'll take the athlon instead of the phenom.
And what about a hyper 212, do I need it?
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July 23, 2013 4:32:02 AM

No i reckon not, however if your planning to Overclock, yes you need the Hyper 212

But my advice is no need to purchase the hyper 212, it will be truly an overkill for that CPU, and the stock heatsink if you enabled AMD cool and quiet will suffice.

however i am abit of silent freak, cause i was raised with an intel Pentium Prescott 3.2 Ghz 1 core 2 threads, that kept me from sleeping when it was active, that thing was like jet engine no kidding, so i got scared for life.

My advice if you truly value silency, skip the 30USD hyper 212 with this silent 20 USD cooler :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Trust me i have hyper 212 evo and while i admire its silent and ability to install on more sockets, it have massive drawbacks :

its heavy and i fear that weight is tilting the mobo or something, i mean if not installed correctly it can harm

Installation is not easy

More importantly and neglected fact, tower coolers suck heat from the CPU and using the FAN on the tower it disspates the heat , however there is huge gap like 4 CM between the Tower cooler CPU contact and the tower cooler FINS, thus the mosfets will be not cooled

Using AMD stock heatsink my VRM would idle on 30C

Using hyper 212 it idles on 44C

thats a big jump, drop down coolers provide air flow to all the area in the CPU and is lighter and easier usually to install

If you want hyper 212 make sure your mobo have heatsinks on the VRM area, and the bulkier heat sinks the better.

Hope the above helps, and sorry for blabbering thats what happens when you are fasting :) 






July 23, 2013 4:45:37 AM

emad_ramlawi said:
No i reckon not, however if your planning to Overclock, yes you need the Hyper 212

But my advice is no need to purchase the hyper 212, it will be truly an overkill for that CPU, and the stock heatsink if you enabled AMD cool and quiet will suffice.

however i am abit of silent freak, cause i was raised with an intel Pentium Prescott 3.2 Ghz 1 core 2 threads, that kept me from sleeping when it was active, that thing was like jet engine no kidding, so i got scared for life.

My advice if you truly value silency, skip the 30USD hyper 212 with this silent 20 USD cooler :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Trust me i have hyper 212 evo and while i admire its silent and ability to install on more sockets, it have massive drawbacks :

its heavy and i fear that weight is tilting the mobo or something, i mean if not installed correctly it can harm

Installation is not easy

More importantly and neglected fact, tower coolers suck heat from the CPU and using the FAN on the tower it disspates the heat , however there is huge gap like 4 CM between the Tower cooler CPU contact and the tower cooler FINS, thus the mosfets will be not cooled

Using AMD stock heatsink my VRM would idle on 30C

Using hyper 212 it idles on 44C

thats a big jump, drop down coolers provide air flow to all the area in the CPU and is lighter and easier usually to install

If you want hyper 212 make sure your mobo have heatsinks on the VRM area, and the bulkier heat sinks the better.

Hope the above helps, and sorry for blabbering thats what happens when you are fasting :) 








Ok tyvm man :D 
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July 23, 2013 2:04:03 PM

Yusuf Demirel said:
Ok thank you very much, I'll take the athlon instead of the phenom.
And what about a hyper 212, do I need it?


your crazy, the price you show for the 6300 is so close just grab it, get the hyper 212 later. Remember although the AMD fx cpu's (and the new athlon cpu's baseed on trinity cores), may state 4 core, they are a hybrid and a 4 core FX cpu has only 2 modules and in most situations works just like the i3's hyperthreading. If its a choice between 4 core (2 module) fx cpu or a phenom with 4 full cores, always get the phenom.
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