Having a hard time picking out a CPU for next gen games

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Fatalis

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Right now I am planning on upgrading from a 965 build to a 3570k build in August yet I am a bit worried about optimization.
For one, I am wondering if I should go with Haswell for the sake of having the new socket on board so I can upgrade to newer chips in the future.
I am also wondering if next gen will make use of Hyper Threading and optimize 8 cores instead of actually utilizing quad cores properly.

I know not much has been said about the subject of specs and optimization for next gen but I feel like maybe I can get some insight on which CPU I should go for on my next build.
 
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Don't get the latest intel chip in hopes you will be able to use the same architecture later on when new ones come out. Intel has consistently used different slot types in each generation which means you can't use your old motherboard. The 3570k is a great processor and there is very little difference between it and the new one besides price.

In my opinion I would get the i5 now because it's still going to be a while before games take advantage of more then 4 cores. I will invest in an 8 core when there is actual evidence of it making a difference(in gaming), I don't invest in hopes and dreams.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($126.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($70.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $862.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-23 15:42 EDT-0400)





Its w/o gpu u can add a 770 later
 
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Yeah I only hear good things about the 3570k and was excited to get my hands on the chip now that my budget is a lot better.
I'm pretty dead set (and excited) on using Intel with my new build.

So I guess Haswell is out of the question considering that they will likely not even stick to that socket long and doesn't offer much performance over Ivy Bridge.
Now would going with an i7 for Hyper Threading be worth it?



 
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Thanks for the part list Sn.
I'm just trying to decide if Haswell is okay to jump into over Ivy Bridge. I know a lot of people don't see the need to upgrade but is that the only reason why it didn't get the best feed back? I heard it was mainly a chip for laptops and didn't do much for desktops.
 
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For gaming, no. You get really no benefit for the large amount of extra money.
 
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Okay, so being stuck between Haswell and Ivy I am currently leaning towards Haswell just because it is a new fresh build as opposed to just upgrading.
A friend told me that Ivy overclocks more and costs less. One last question is how does Haswell overclock in comparison to Ivy?
 
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Okay thanks.
I am going to with the 3570k this time around based on it being a bit cheaper, close to the Haswell performance, and it overclocks better.
Looking back on my build, any thing else you would suggest on adding or changing now that I am set on a 3570k?
 
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Heres the final built




PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($126.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ATX Full Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($70.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $837.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-23 16:18 EDT-0400)


 
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I would slap on an aftermarket cooler, make it a ton quieter and cooler, an essential for overclocking.
 
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One thing I am not sure here.
In this post someone said Haswell is 10% faster than Ivy-bridge.
How much gain would overclocking provide without any fancy liquid cooling etc? I think that cost of overclocking should be considered. Not only that, the warranty will also void on overclocking.
10% is not insignificant. Even if overclocking Ivy will provide 20% improvement, Haswell still seems better option.
I would go for the latest and fastest CPU available within my budget.
 
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