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July 24, 2013 6:09:27 AM

I have this card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I like this card and enjoy it. My question is. I bought this card on sale and am on a budget so would it be worth me buying another of these and using crossfire or spending much more to buy another card. (only problem with that for me is that I bought this card already and would like to make use of it if possible)

I would like to be able to upgrade for this price but if its not worth it let me know! thanks guys
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July 24, 2013 6:16:24 AM

Looking putting 2 cards in crossfire causes much issues in micro shuttering so avoid it stick to the same card and upgrade in future with a better card
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July 24, 2013 6:22:52 AM

You would be better off selling your current 7870 and buying a Gigabyte GTX 760 WF http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DGM8B6O/ref=as_li_q... Unfortunately, AMD hasn't fixed crossfire yet and you would also be sucking a lot more power, creating a lost more noise and heat, and probably have performance issues.
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July 24, 2013 6:26:38 AM

Crossfire is still broken, although AMD may have it fixed by the end of this month. This hasn't been a secret, but AMD only realized there was a problem when FCAT testing was developed. I'd wait until there is a fix which has been independently verified before even thinking about Crossfire.
You should be able to play any game on very good settings with just one of those cards, although I understand there may be specific exceptions (e.g. TressFX in Tomb Raider).
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July 24, 2013 6:27:06 AM

$185 is super great... We are sad we don't have those kind of prices in here. If you are ready with some CF Issues (mostly stuttering), you are fine to get another one and put it on crossfire. But if you are not ready, I recommend you to wait for the newer HD 9000 or whatever newer gen cards from AMD and upgrade to something like 9970 or something like that.
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July 24, 2013 6:28:43 AM

Sn1992 said:
Looking putting 2 cards in crossfire causes much issues in micro shuttering so avoid it stick to the same card and upgrade in future with a better card


not always i talked to a few people with xfire 7970s and they did not notice a difference from single to dual cards as far as micro stutter


but to answer his question 2 7870s would be pretty nice but your better off selling it and getting like a 7950 or 7970
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July 24, 2013 6:35:23 AM

getting a mixed vibe here for sure but I like the answers guys there much appreciated gives me a lot to think about. Just a heads up this is not an immediate upgrade this is just an at the time question. so let me ask this. Say I can wait a 2-4 months. Could it then be very well worth it? if say that price drops slightly more and they fix crossfire? everywhere I had read before buying my card said that buying used graphics cards was a very dangerous proposition not knowing what specs they were run with.
with that being said I'm not completely against selling it but am unsure of where to sell it if I had.
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July 24, 2013 6:35:25 AM

Amd themselves admitted that there are issues with it
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July 24, 2013 6:39:11 AM

Yes it wud b bttr to wait fr fixin the issues by amd
My advice is to try selling ur card and if u can sell it fr a good deal then get gtx 770 that wud b a great upgrade


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July 24, 2013 7:01:25 AM

The obvious question no one has asked yet: Is there a game you play (or want to play) that doesn't run well enough on your current card?

That game would obviously dictate which card you should buy at a minimum. If there is no such game right now, at this moment, why upgrade? If your dream game comes out in 3 months, then it's best wait that 3 months before upgrading the GPU. You'll get more value for your money then, and in the mean time you would be fine with the current card.

Likewise you might wait for AMD to fix the CrossFire issue and see that it's confirmed to actually be fixed, before committing yourself to buying another card for CrossFire.
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July 24, 2013 7:06:54 AM

ekseli said:
The obvious question no one has asked yet: Is there a game you play (or want to play) that doesn't run well enough on your current card?

That game would obviously dictate which card you should buy at a minimum. If there is no such game right now, at this moment, why upgrade? If your dream game comes out in 3 months, then it's best wait that 3 months before upgrading the GPU. You'll get more value for your money then, and in the mean time you would be fine with the current card.

Likewise you might wait for AMD to fix the CrossFire issue and see that it's confirmed to actually be fixed, before committing yourself to buying another card for CrossFire.


thats a great point lol. It runs Arma 2 beautifully and I have yet to try Arma3 which would be the goal for this but from what I've read its pretty demanding.
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July 24, 2013 9:28:08 AM

Dett27 said:
thats a great point lol. It runs Arma 2 beautifully and I have yet to try Arma3 which would be the goal for this but from what I've read its pretty demanding.


My advice would be wait for Arma3 release then, unless you have some other reason to upgrade. At least wait til you get into Arma3 Beta and see how your current cart handles it. If it manages okay, then stick with it until the final version is closer.

That way you'll end up either getting a faster card for the same money or getting the same card you would buy now for less. You could use the money saved to buy more RAM or, indeed, to buy Arma3 itself.

Buying a new card several months before you actually have a need for it will only end up wasting your money. AMD is releasing its 9000 series in the fall, giving you either more options to choose from or a discount on the current generation of cards (both AMD and nVidia).
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August 1, 2013 10:31:10 PM

I am in the exact same boat as OP. I am currently running a heavily modded Skyrim and get about 20-30 FPS and full VRAM usage before I crash. My options now being
(1) wait for new HD 9000 series and trash this card which was used for barely over a year by the team I get the new card, which will prob still use 2gb, 3gb at most for the 7870 successor.
(2) Crossfire 7870 and hope two cards give better results on that 2gb of VRAM and then wait out for the generation after the HD 9000 series.
I wonder though, after AMD better patches the CrossFire problems, if the two 7870s can outperform the next gen '9870' or '9950'.

I've probably said some ridiculous stuff, I am pretty clueless on the matter (as you may be able to tell) but that's why I posted.
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August 1, 2013 10:37:46 PM

Wait
I m sure amd would fix the crossfire issues
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August 1, 2013 11:42:26 PM

RestlessAvenger said:
(2) Crossfire 7870 and hope two cards give better results on that 2gb of VRAM


They wont, since your problem with Skyrim is running out of VRAM. Adding a second card with the same amount of memory doesn't increase the total amount of VRAM available for textures, as the VRAM is split between two cards. It would give you a better frame rate due to two cards being faster than one, but you'd suffer frame rate drop and crash when the VRAM gets full.

If you can wait for 3 months, then it's probably smart to do so. Current generation cards will see a price drop when HD 9000 becomes available, which will benefit you whether or not you actually buy a 9000-series card.

However if you don't want to wait, you could get a 4GB GTX 760 or 770 now and be done with it. Or 3GB AMD one.
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August 1, 2013 11:46:06 PM

Sn1992 said:
Wait
I m sure amd would fix the crossfire issues


Why are you sure? They've had the Crossfire issues for over a year, haven't they? Promises are just promises until they are actually fulfilled. The world is full of empty promises by tech companies. I wouldn't gamble several hundred dollars on any single one of them living up to their promises. They've fixed it when it's a demonstrable fact that the problem no longer exists, not a second before.
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August 2, 2013 10:19:45 AM

It's interesting, a lot of people say "2GB is more then enough" when asked about having enough VRAM, and here I am being easily able to max out that amount. Now I wonder if late 2013 and 2014 games will run decent on that amount. I kind of want to stick with supporting AMD, so I guess waiting it out is the best option.
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