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Difference In Gaming Between 4GB and 8GB RAM.

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July 24, 2013 8:30:21 AM

Ok guys, this might be a cliche and simple question but i need answers and views from you.

My pc is intel core i5 4430, gpu is sapphire hd7870 2gb Ghz overclocked edition. the mobo is gigabyte B85M. the RAM is 4gb ddr3 1600.

The question is, if I upgrade my ram to 8GB, will there be difference in terms of gaming experience like improved FPS and smoother gameplay? Or is my 4gb already provided the max amount needed for max gaming performance for my pc? Thanks in advance.
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July 24, 2013 8:34:15 AM

Nope. If it runs you don't need more RAM. To check open task manager and look at performance. It will show you how much RAM is being used. You'll see it is less than 4 GB.
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July 24, 2013 8:36:05 AM

stevezul_89 said:
Ok guys, this might be a cliche and simple question but i need answers and views from you.

My pc is intel core i5 4430, gpu is sapphire hd7870 2gb Ghz overclocked edition. the mobo is gigabyte B85M. the RAM is 4gb ddr3 1600.

The question is, if I upgrade my ram to 8GB, will there be difference in terms of gaming experience like improved FPS and smoother gameplay? Or is my 4gb already provided the max amount needed for max gaming performance for my pc? Thanks in advance.


4gb will provide enough ram to run current games like crysis, bf3 and etc: reason most people us the 4x2 (8GB) ram is if later they want to upgrade to 16GB (4x4) then it will allow them to have some better performance in multitasking. while if you run 4GB (2x2) or (1x1) you could only reach a maximum of 8GB for the (2x2) setup but can still get 16GB with the (1x1) module.

Easy answer is that with 4gb you are ok but if you did choose to upgrade you would see some speed improvements but not likely a huge fps difference in fps.
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July 24, 2013 8:44:44 AM

I have to disagree with the previous posters, if you monitor your RAM usage while gaming with 4GB is will report that you are not using all 4GB. This is because the OS is reserving some RAM for just in case situations. Now if you upgrade to 8GB or RAM and monitor the usage you will notice it actually uses more than 4GB of RAM. This is because now the OS has plenty to work with and can give the game all the resources it's asking for. I consistently use more than 4GB of RAM while gaming and in some game it can go up to around 6GB usage.

I recommend getting the extra 4GB, for the price of RAM it's always a good buy. You will not need more than 8 though, right now that is overkill for gaming purposes.
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July 24, 2013 8:56:52 AM

I agree with burdenbound's view. By upgrading your RAM to 8GB, u could even disable Page File (Virtual Memory) so u would notice improvement of performance. (In this way Windows doesn't need to frequently write data from RAM to HDD which will decrease the performance and shorten the HDD's life)
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July 24, 2013 9:03:14 AM

To the op don't forget do to intel pci bridge and ram set up your cant use the full amount of a four gig stick. Most new pc will show 3.2g of usable ram. Then the os has to reserved some of the ram for itself. The big hit is in game cut shots....they can lock up mor crash or the audio can spaz out when gaming rig starts running out of free ram.
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July 24, 2013 1:25:28 PM

While not mentioned above, yes the 8GB will be better, also insure you have a 64bit OS, if running 32bit Windows will just be spinning your wheels
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July 24, 2013 2:31:36 PM

Tradesman1 said:
While not mentioned above, yes the 8GB will be better, also insure you have a 64bit OS, if running 32bit Windows will just be spinning your wheels


oh that would be fine since my OS is windows 8 64bit.

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July 24, 2013 2:34:08 PM

Maxime506 said:
I agree with burdenbound's view. By upgrading your RAM to 8GB, u could even disable Page File (Virtual Memory) so u would notice improvement of performance. (In this way Windows doesn't need to frequently write data from RAM to HDD which will decrease the performance and shorten the HDD's life)


could you please explain about the page file (virtual memory)? i had heard bout it but i don't really understand how it works and it's importance.

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July 24, 2013 2:38:29 PM

burdenbound said:
I have to disagree with the precious posters, if you monitor your RAM usage while gaming with 4GB is will report that you are not using all 4GB. This is because the OS is reserving some RAM for just in case situations. Now if you upgrade to 8GB or RAM and monitor the usage you will notice it actually uses more than 4GB of RAM. This is because now the OS has plenty to work with and can give the game all the resources it's asking for. I consistently use more than 4GB of RAM while gaming and in some game it can go up to around 6GB usage.

I recommend getting the extra 4GB, for the price of RAM it's always a good buy. You will not need more than 8 though, right now that is overkill for gaming purposes.


in other forums I found that everyone agree on the point that 8gb is the max ram needed for gaming performance. however, the answer given for 4gb vs 8gb is split amongst gamers. i think i will go for another 4gb since the price is quite okay.

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July 24, 2013 2:38:35 PM

It's a section of harddrive that's reserved for virtual memory....as your DRAM get full (say you have a number of Windows open) and you open more things, as Space in DRAM runs low it writes data from some of the windows to the hard drive so it can retrieve it faster than having to resend over the net to get it, then as it needs it, it pulls from the drive and writes other data there, all while keeping all your windows and apps running
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July 24, 2013 3:13:30 PM

stevezul_89 said:

could you please explain about the page file (virtual memory)? i had heard bout it but i don't really understand how it works and it's importance.


Page File is a kind of Windows Virtual Memory. When your rig has 4 GB RAM, it's not sufficient if Windows uses only the RAM itself, so in order to satisfy the need, Windows needs to write some of the data from RAM to the Virtual Memory/Page File on HDD to keep enough RAM for further use. That's what the PF works.

To disable it, go to Control Panel ->System->Advanced System Settings (On the left of the dialog box)->Choose Settings button in "Performance" ->Click "Advanced" tab->

U should see the amount of virtual memory (Assuming yours is 4096MB), click "Change" button ->Unselect/Untick "Automatically manage paging file size for all drives" ->Choose Drive C:, select "no paging file" (Make sure Drive C: is highlighted by clicking it) and click set -> Do the same step if there is any page file in other drives. ->Restart the computer. (Hard to describe how to perform this operation ;) )
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July 24, 2013 3:59:52 PM

Maxime506 said:
stevezul_89 said:

could you please explain about the page file (virtual memory)? i had heard bout it but i don't really understand how it works and it's importance.


Page File is a kind of Windows Virtual Memory. When your rig has 4 GB RAM, it's not sufficient if Windows uses only the RAM itself, so in order to satisfy the need, Windows needs to write some of the data from RAM to the Virtual Memory/Page File on HDD to keep enough RAM for further use. That's what the PF works.

To disable it, go to Control Panel ->System->Advanced System Settings (On the left of the dialog box)->Choose Settings button in "Performance" ->Click "Advanced" tab->

U should see the amount of virtual memory (Assuming yours is 4096MB), click "Change" button ->Unselect/Untick "Automatically manage paging file size for all drives" ->Choose Drive C:, select "no paging file" (Make sure Drive C: is highlighted by clicking it) and click set -> Do the same step if there is any page file in other drives. ->Restart the computer. (Hard to describe how to perform this operation ;) )


oh i see...that means, if i want to disable it i need to have extra physical memory (which is ram). more physical memory=less work cpu need to do=faster performance.

so in my case, if i do want to turn off the page file and gaining gaming improvement, will 8gb be enough? what's your thought on this.
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July 24, 2013 4:02:40 PM

You can try it and see how it goes, would recommend you at least keep a minimal page file as there are some programs that require it, may 1GB or so - and if running a SSD, preferably not on that, place it on a platter drive if available
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July 24, 2013 4:05:54 PM

I think 8GB is quite enough though. Usually it will use 18-20% when start up (Windows 8), and generally it won't exceed more than 60% when playing games or browsing a lot of Internet pages (Internet browsers are one of the RAM eaters, sometimes even worse than large games.)
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July 25, 2013 5:24:44 PM

Just monitor DRAM usage if any doubts, DRAM usage can very greatly from any one time to another, may have programs running in background, apps may be updating them selves, all kinds of things can be going on, for one person 60% max usage may be 80% to someone else
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October 3, 2013 4:09:44 PM

I recently pulled my 2x4GB sticks to test 2x1GB modules I wanted to sell on Ebay. I was pretty surprised to find that Bioshock Infinite, Dead Space 3 and even Crysis ran pretty much the same on max settings. I am using a 2GB 7850 GPU.
If the next gen consoles are maxing out at 8GB shared memory, then It seems logical to suggest that PC's are unlikely to need more than 8GB system memory in the next 8 years. GPU memory will be where it counts.
Just my opinion.
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October 12, 2013 7:27:11 PM

Hell...! The upcoming Watchdogs and Call of Duty Ghosts require atleast 6GB RAM and 8 GB Recommended...!! Damn it,I got only 4GB....!!!
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October 17, 2013 10:08:07 AM

burdenbound said:
I have to disagree with the precious posters, if you monitor your RAM usage while gaming with 4GB is will report that you are not using all 4GB. This is because the OS is reserving some RAM for just in case situations. Now if you upgrade to 8GB or RAM and monitor the usage you will notice it actually uses more than 4GB of RAM. This is because now the OS has plenty to work with and can give the game all the resources it's asking for. I consistently use more than 4GB of RAM while gaming and in some game it can go up to around 6GB usage.

I recommend getting the extra 4GB, for the price of RAM it's always a good buy. You will not need more than 8 though, right now that is overkill for gaming purposes.


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January 8, 2014 4:14:45 PM

As far as I know, all the answers r wrong…

Re Win 7, if Commit (MB) ≥ Total, u need more RAM firstly to extend the life of ur storage then to improve performance. XP still shines, as it shows the ‘Commit Charge (K) Peak’.

By using a virtual machine, u can easily suck 16GB+

Disabling page file results in no ‘memory dumping’, I’ve heard. Also some programmes crash.
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January 28, 2014 10:05:28 AM

Tradesman1 said:
You can try it and see how it goes, would recommend you at least keep a minimal page file as there are some programs that require it, may 1GB or so - and if running a SSD, preferably not on that, place it on a platter drive if available


Why on a platter drive rather then SSD? would that not slow things down, surely the SSD would be the better option?
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January 28, 2014 3:07:13 PM

A page file area is basically for what can be almost non-stop reads and writes - writes are the bane of SSDs, which are much better than the earlier ones, but if you want to prolong the life of them you still want as few writes to a SSD as possible - also a good idea to move cache and temp directories to a platter drive
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