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Will my build run ARMA 3 & BF4 on high res?

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July 25, 2013 4:50:13 AM

Intel Core i7 4770K Quad Core Retail CPU
Asus SABERTOOTH Z77 Motherboard
Asus GTX 770 Nvidia GeForce DirectCU II OC 2GB GDDR5 Graphics Card
Corsair 32GB (4x 8GB) Vengeance Memory Module
Crucial CT512M4SSD2 512GB M4 SATA III 6Gb/s MLC 2.5 Inch Internal SSD

If anyone could enlighten me as to what PSU I should buy I would be grateful. Also, any tips would be appreciated as it's my first build.

Thanks.

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July 25, 2013 5:02:55 AM

The reason why I have gone with the i7 is due to rendering and graphics if anyone was wondering. I'm still looking for a decent air flow case but I just haven't found one to my taste.
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July 25, 2013 5:04:11 AM

What I would do If I were you, is lose half of the memory, you don't need 32GB for anything. Get a smaller capacity SSD and invest in a GTX 780 instead.

For the PSU a good brand unit eg. Corsair, Seasonic, Silverstone, Antec, Cooler Master... 80+ rated, 12V on single rail, 500W and upwards...
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July 25, 2013 5:10:35 AM

hizodge said:
What I would do If I were you, is lose half of the memory, you don't need 32GB for anything. Get a smaller capacity SSD and invest in a GTX 780 instead.

For the PSU a good brand unit eg. Corsair, Seasonic, Silverstone, Antec, Cooler Master... 80+ rated, 12V on single rail, 500W and upwards...


Thanks for replying.

Would you say the Crucial CT128M4SSD2 128GB would be a better choice for the SSD and could you tell me if there's a substantial difference between the 770 and 780?

Thanks again.
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July 25, 2013 5:13:04 AM

hey u have the same gpu as mine could u help me in battlefield 3 my fps drops to 26 during explosion on my face plz help thnx
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July 25, 2013 5:17:52 AM

I'm in a similar position (Use my computer mainly for Photoshop/Illustrator/Cinema 4D) and I built this system recently: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1ktCc

Main thing with graphics and other colour dependent tasks is a nice IPS panel so if I was you I'd get a 770 and spend the money you save on a solid monitor or 2 or 3. Pure hardware speed is nice but added work space does wonders for the fluidity of your work flow!
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July 25, 2013 5:18:22 AM

mrfuji said:
hizodge said:
What I would do If I were you, is lose half of the memory, you don't need 32GB for anything. Get a smaller capacity SSD and invest in a GTX 780 instead.

For the PSU a good brand unit eg. Corsair, Seasonic, Silverstone, Antec, Cooler Master... 80+ rated, 12V on single rail, 500W and upwards...


Thanks for replying.


Would you say the Crucial CT128M4SSD2 128GB would be a better choice for the SSD and could you tell me if there's a substantial difference between the 770 and 780?

Thanks again.


120GB is a bit on the smaller side but it would do as well. I'd say 240GB is just about right for OS, programs and a bunch games.

The difference between GTX 770 and 780 is pretty substantial in terms of performance.


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July 25, 2013 5:19:13 AM

tushardehra said:
hey u have the same gpu as mine could u help me in battlefield 3 my fps drops to 26 during explosion on my face plz help thnx


Sadly, I can't help. Not knowing the rest of your specs would be hard to tell, but I'm sure someone will be able to help.

Thanks.
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July 25, 2013 5:26:15 AM

ThermalV said:
I'm in a similar position (Use my computer mainly for Photoshop/Illustrator/Cinema 4D) and I built this system recently: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1ktCc

Main thing with graphics and other colour dependent tasks is a nice IPS panel so if I was you I'd get a 770 and spend the money you save on a solid monitor or 2 or 3. Pure hardware speed is nice but added work space does wonders for the fluidity of your work flow!


I was pushed in the direction of getting a very nice Acer monitor, was in the price region of 250 pounds. If I end up purchasing the 780 I don't want to cut corners and downgrade on that monitor. The overall build was projected to cost 1.5 - 1.7k which I will have to call cut off point.
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July 25, 2013 5:30:55 AM

Does the overall build include everything from components, peripherals to OS etc. ? Also are you in the UK?

If your budget is even £1500, I think you can fit pretty much everything you could want in it as long as you don't splurge on unnecessary stuff.
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July 25, 2013 5:32:11 AM

mrfuji said:

I was pushed in the direction of getting a very nice Acer monitor, was in the price region of 250 pounds. If I end up purchasing the 780 I don't want to cut corners and downgrade on that monitor. The overall build was projected to cost 1.5 - 1.7k which I will have to call cut off point.


Personally I could not justify the extra £250+ on a 780 when the 770 is a solid card which provide more than enough performance. I would rather spend the extra cash on either software or setting up a nice RAID array for project storage but again that is just how I would do it.

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July 25, 2013 5:32:42 AM

hizodge said:
mrfuji said:
hizodge said:
What I would do If I were you, is lose half of the memory, you don't need 32GB for anything. Get a smaller capacity SSD and invest in a GTX 780 instead.

For the PSU a good brand unit eg. Corsair, Seasonic, Silverstone, Antec, Cooler Master... 80+ rated, 12V on single rail, 500W and upwards...


Thanks for replying.


Would you say the Crucial CT128M4SSD2 128GB would be a better choice for the SSD and could you tell me if there's a substantial difference between the 770 and 780?

Thanks again.


120GB is a bit on the smaller side but it would do as well. I'd say 240GB is just about right for OS, programs and a bunch games.

The difference between GTX 770 and 780 is pretty substantial in terms of performance.



I will go with the 240, thanks for your help. As for the graphics card it's really just comes down to the money factor. Obviously, I would love to get the 780 but I don't want to start cutting corners, but then again 32GB RAM you said wasn't needed and that will drop the overall cost to.
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July 25, 2013 5:36:53 AM

hizodge said:
Does the overall build include everything from components, peripherals to OS etc. ? Also are you in the UK?

If your budget is even £1500, I think you can fit pretty much everything you could want in it as long as you don't splurge on unnecessary stuff.


My original budget was £1,500 but I was contemplating the fact shall I just add the extra 200 pounds and upgrade in an area but where do I stop, there's always room for improvement. I had it written down at home and it was wavering the £1.600 mark without a keyboard and mouse which is feasible.

I'm from the UK yeah.
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July 25, 2013 5:40:16 AM

ThermalV said:
mrfuji said:

I was pushed in the direction of getting a very nice Acer monitor, was in the price region of 250 pounds. If I end up purchasing the 780 I don't want to cut corners and downgrade on that monitor. The overall build was projected to cost 1.5 - 1.7k which I will have to call cut off point.


Personally I could not justify the extra £250+ on a 780 when the 770 is a solid card which provide more than enough performance. I would rather spend the extra cash on either software or setting up a nice RAID array for project storage but again that is just how I would do it.



I totally understand where you're coming from, I think we both have the same mind set. I wonder how much of an actual visual difference you would see comparing the two cards, not a lot I expect.
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July 25, 2013 5:46:30 AM

Well It's just that I think there's definite room in your budget for the 780. If you want to max out graphics performance for the money spent, something like GTX 760 2-way SLI would be optimal. It would beat the 780 in relative performance (which often varies from game to game with SLI), while costing just a little bit more than GTX 770.

You'd probably need a little bit more wattage to run 2-way 760 though it wouldn't interfere with the total cost that much.
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July 25, 2013 5:55:45 AM

hizodge said:
Well It's just that I think there's definite room in your budget for the 780. If you want to max out graphics performance for the money spent, something like GTX 760 2-way SLI would be optimal. It would beat the 780 in relative performance (which often varies from game to game with SLI), while costing just a little bit more than GTX 770.

You'd probably need a little bit more wattage to run 2-way 760 though it wouldn't interfere with the total cost that much.


Going down the 2-way rout would be of interest. I will have a look into the cost and work a few things out and I'm sure the wattage wouldn't add a drastic amount to the overall cost like you said.
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July 25, 2013 6:09:44 AM

mrfuji said:

Going down the 2-way rout would be of interest. I will have a look into the cost and work a few things out and I'm sure the wattage wouldn't add a drastic amount to the overall cost like you said.


Keep in mind that not all applications will support SLI and it'd be better to get a single card now and upgrade later if necessary.
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July 25, 2013 6:22:31 AM


mrfuji
i5 2500
16gb ram
asus b75
seasonic x650 psu
asus gtx770
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July 25, 2013 6:30:52 AM

It is always more advisable to start your build off with a great single card rather than a dual card solution. This is because a year or 2 from now when you may get an extra monitor or go up to 4K resolution (that's looking to be the next standard) you'll have to scrap two graphics cards and another high quality single card or dual cards olution; much more costly than introducing an additional (gtx 770?) card, providing very competitive performance for even a good single card a few years from now for a fraction of the cost.

I learned from a very wise poster on these forums before doing my own build so I will share with you what I learned. You can think of PC peripherals (keyboard, mouse, monitor), the case & power supply as "hard" components, in that they retain their value as quality parts over many years and can (and often WILL) be used for many builds after your initial purchase. On the other hand, hardware components like cpu's, gpu's, mobo's, memory (albeit to a lesser degree) can all be considered "soft" purchases, as they are quite short term investments relative to the aforementioned. I say this because people often undervalue the affect that high quality peripherals will on their gaming and computer usage experience. Especially on this forum, where contributors are more than willing to jam the most expensive gpu they can into any build with the budget to support it. With the money you are spending, you would have an amazing system spending 20% or even 30% less with very little difference in performance. If you are looking for value, you want to stop spending when the diminishing returns go up to an unacceptable level. That level for me would be anything after a modestly powerful system; you must decide what your cut off is. I went the 760 route so I could buy msyelf a quality mechanical keyboard, gaming mouse and monitor and am EXTREMELY happy with this decision, as I was considering buying those [super] cheap logitech junk keyboard/mouse sets to fit the most performance into my build, dodged a bullet there *phew*.

Some pointers to help you put things in perspective. From the above-posted chart you can see a 15% performance increase from a 770 to 780, which costs an additional £250. That's £16.67 per 1% performance over the 770, an already beastly card.

32Gb of memory?! Vengeance memory?! You said you do some video/editing work (hence the i7), but unless this is how you make your living, I really don't see any reason to go SO heavy on the ram. 8Gb is the standard around these forums, but that is already twice what you really need for gaming. Nevertheless, 16Gb is permissible if you're a serious editor. Now vengeance memory modules on the other hand, they're usually over priced for no better reason than their gimmicky heat sinks give the impression of performance. Please do yourself and find a cheap Mushkin, G.Skill, Crucial etc. set og memory sticks without heat spreaders. Memory modules do not, I repeat DO NOT need heat sinks at all, it is all a sham.

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July 25, 2013 6:31:14 AM

tushardehra said:

mrfuji
i5 2500
16gb ram
asus b75
seasonic x650 psu
asus gtx770


No point in getting a SB CPU really, you can claim greater overclocking headroom but IPC improvements negate that, 4.2GHz Haswell is equal to a 4.7Ghz SB.
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July 25, 2013 6:35:28 AM

tushardehra said:

mrfuji
i5 2500
16gb ram
asus b75
seasonic x650 psu
asus gtx770


Stop trying to hijack threads, make your own.

If you read anything at all you'd realize the op is getting advice on his build, nothing has been BUILT yet. He does not know why your fps drops, now leave us be to help him build his system if you're not going to help anyone other than yourself.
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August 26, 2013 12:30:50 PM

Man,dont go so crazy with the ram,8gb will be enough and u always upgrade down the line to 16gb.and for the money you save on the ram buy a hdd as youll be limited with the space on the ssd.for the psu go with a psu from the corsair gs series.awesome rig man:pt1cable: 
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